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    Thumbs up Dubbed and subbed.

    why does so many ppl hate the dubbed anime?
    just couse there little bit off the charecter? i don't think so.
    i think it's just fine and it's easy'er then trying to injoy it but can't couse
    the text goes away before i'm dun reading it

    i watch both but the dubbed is way better

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    i know how you feel. i had to sometimes pause the video in order to finish reading XD but i dont like dubbed cause of the voices,they take the lamest voices sometimes and its just awful. im not saying that all of them are bad but most of them yea. but i still watch dubbed since im just lazy to read XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by lilminx View Post
    i know how you feel. i had to sometimes pause the video in order to finish reading XD but i dont like dubbed cause of the voices,they take the lamest voices sometimes and its just awful. XD
    Yeah mostly I watch the dub cos I read so slow but the Vo actors are terrible especially in Ikki Tousen they all sound like they've sucked the helium from balloons

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    it would be so much better if they picked some decent voice actors. they ruin the show *sigh* the worst is when the voice doesnt fit the character at all, its so frustrating
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    Quote Originally Posted by lilminx View Post
    it would be so much better if they picked some decent voice actors. they ruin the show *sigh* the worst is when the voice doesnt fit the character at all, its so frustrating
    Yeah I know I loved Darker than Black but I always hated the Misaki Kirihara voice actor....Oow well I cant speak japanese and reading makes my brain cry so I guess I cant do nothing bout it

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    I prefer to watch it dubbed for two reasons, the first one was mentioned, that if there is a long sentence then the subs can change before you are finished reading.The other reason is that you can focus more on what is happening in the anime rather than reading what is being said at the bottom of the screen.

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    theres also the fact that every subbed video is different from the other. you can watch the same episode on 2 different sites and theyll be different.
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    I like dubbed myself over subbed. One reason is I like to watch anime before I go to work and while I'm having my breakfast which makes it hard to watch and read and eat my breakfast all at the same time. I do have to admit it is annoying when the voice doesn't fit the charcter.

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    Okay, arguing that you're too lazy to read the subtitles in anime is just stupid. If you're so lazy, then don't watch anime all together. Reading builds vocabulary, creativity, and makes you look all around smarter. When you bash something because you don't want to read you look retarded.

    That being said, I despise all the dub hate. You know, a lot of this "the voices don't fit" claims are born from you trying to watch the dub after you've seen the sub. It's just horrible. Of course the voices "don't fit", you've gotten used to someone else doing the voices! In all honestly, if you watch the dub of an anime first, I think you'll find you enjoy at least half of dubbed anime and half of subbed anime rather than mostly just subbed. That is utterly ridiculous a claim. I'm sure that companies like ADV and Funimation go through an especially TIRING process of voice actor selection. They don't let just anyone voice their characters, and if you think they did then why don't YOU audition? I'm sure it would feed your ego to voice an anime character.

    All that said, I look for the dub of an anime if I can. I mean, they always have the subbed as well, so if I don't like the dub for whatever reason I can just switch. I tend to like 75% of dubs. However, anime being only available in sub does not put me off. Though I would love to hear a Strawberry Panic dub, I'm more than happy to listen to the Japanese voices. Also, I've watched both the dub and sub of Shuffle! and find both are great. What a concept, enjoying BOTH versions of anime!!!

    Dubs I enjoy:
    Full Metal Alchemist
    Azumanga Daioh
    Slayers
    Happy Lesson
    Chrno Crusade
    Trigun
    Outlaw Star
    Lucky Star
    Cowboy Bebop
    Fruits Basket
    Shuffle!

    Dubs I hate:
    Sailor Moon
    Burst Angel
    90% of hentai

    Subs I enjoy:
    Strawberry Panic
    Azumanga Daioh
    Shuffle!
    Cowboy Bebop

    Subs I hate:
    Fruits Basket

    Oh what a shocker, hating subs! I don't like it because the Japanese voice actors depicted some of my favorite characters in a way far different from the way I expected from reading the manga. I don't want to hear ANYTHING about how the sub is the way they're "supposed to sound" because quite frankly, in this case the manga represents the purest form of the story as it reflects what the creator intended. I believe that the dub better aligned with the manga. If you disagree, that's fine with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capernicus View Post
    Okay, arguing that you're too lazy to read the subtitles in anime is just stupid. If you're so lazy, then don't watch anime all together. Reading builds vocabulary, creativity, and makes you look all around smarter. When you bash something because you don't want to read you look retarded..
    A few things to add,fistly I go to school to get educated and also if you watch subbed anime to make you "look all around smarter" then you cant be very intelligent.
    Another thing I never watch a sub then switch to a dub (or dub to sub)once youve seen it in one form you can leave it at that,I just think some voice actors dont suit thats all.

    Lastly even using it indirectly "retarded" relly were retaded cos we dont want our entertainment products to be a task...??

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnswerBAK View Post
    A few things to add,fistly I go to school to get educated and also if you watch subbed anime to make you "look all smarter" then you cant be very intelligent.around
    Reading makes you look smarter, not watching dubbed anime. -.-

    Another thing I never watch a sub then switch to a dub (or dub to sub)once youve seen it in one form you can leave it at that,I just think some voice actors dont suit thats all.
    I have no problem switching; I like many dubs and subs. If you don't think they fit, then that's fine. I just tire so much of people bashing dubs because they're beawoos, think the Jap voices are the "true" voices, or think that watching subs somehow makes you cooler (because you'll learn Japanese?). The statements pertaining to that weren't directed at you per say, just the talk about not wanting to read the subtitles.

    Lastly even using it indirectly "retarded" relly were retaded cos we dont want our entertainment products to be a task...??
    It's not a task to read and watch at the same time, and if it is then perhaps you lack the brain cells. Regardless, anything worth doing requires some effort.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Capernicus View Post
    It's not a task to read and watch at the same time, and if it is then perhaps you lack the brain cells. Regardless, anything worth doing requires some effort.
    People lack brain cells if they'd rather focus on the animation instead of looking at it through only peripheral vision? Mmmkay.......
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    It's not a task to read and watch at the same time, and if it is then perhaps you lack the brain cells. Regardless, anything worth doing requires some effort.
    actually it can be if the text is too small or the color of the text doesn't contrast with the background well that said I prefer some subs over the dub(yugioh GX and 5ds) and some dubs(Gundam 00,Code Geass,Bleach)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doom85 View Post
    People lack brain cells if they'd rather focus on the animation instead of looking at it through only peripheral vision? Mmmkay.......
    I was referencing the bolded part below.

    Quote Originally Posted by AnswerBAK View Post
    Yeah I know I loved Darker than Black but I always hated the Misaki Kirihara voice actor....Oow well I cant speak japanese and reading makes my brain cry so I guess I cant do nothing bout it


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    I don't find a preference for either subbed or dubbed versions of anime to be an indicator of intelligence, for better or worse. Please try to keep this civil.

    Similar to Capernicus, I have found some dubs enjoyable. However, I have been tortured by poor English language voice acting in some otherwise excellent series (Evangelion is a good example).

    The translation choices and lip-synching of dubbed versions become off-putting. For example; "onii-chan" and "onee-chan" are used very often, however, translating that to "brother" and "sister" makes the dialogue sound stilted. Also, they will tend to poorly replicate very gruff, high-pitched, or childish voices. In a dub for Witch Hunter Robin, they omitted much of the radio noise and background chatter which made the first episode so effective.

    With subs, I have to read and cannot pay as much attention to the animation during long or complex dialogue, but I can use what I have learned of the japanese language to discern the context and subtext intended by the director with the original voice acting.

    These are merely a few of my reasons; I cannot speak for anyone else on this matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capernicus View Post
    I was referencing the bolded part below.
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    Yeah I see...."hmph"....that was a joke but maybe you thought I genuinely meant it,

    obviously not like my brain cries but maybe you just thought I meant I dont like reading which is completely not what I meant I was talkinging about subs.....as I read a lot of manga and comics as well as the occasionally book.....

    and to correct your mistake-while many things worth doing require effort the purpose of tv shows are for leisure
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misterex View Post
    why does so many ppl hate the dubbed anime?
    just couse there little bit off the charecter? i don't think so.
    i think it's just fine and it's easy'er then trying to injoy it but can't couse
    the text goes away before i'm dun reading it

    i watch both but the dubbed is way better

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    Even after I watched the sub version. I'll go back and watch the dubbed version. Most of the time I like the dubbed version better, but it is still like watching two different animes sometimes depending on how the voice actors decide how to do the charcters.

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    Dubbed anime is okay, except in the case of Sailor Moon, in which they changed the character's names (almost every character), sexualities (Uranus and Neptune), and even genders (Zoisite and Fish Eye)!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnswerBAK View Post
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    Yeah I see...."hmph"....that was a joke but maybe you thought I genuinely meant it,

    obviously not like my brain cries but maybe you just thought I meant I dont like reading which is completely not what I meant I was talkinging about subs.....as I read a lot of manga and comics as well as the occasionally book.....

    and to correct your mistake-while many things worth doing require effort the purpose of tv shows are for leisure
    Your spelling is precisely the reason you should be reading.

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    I am usually quite forgiving when it comes to the dubbed versions of anime. In Japan, voice acting can be a very successful career, leading to a very large number of voice actors. They not provide voice overs for cartoons, but also for commercials and foreign movies.

    In America, however, anime voice actors are not paid a lot, so there are only so many of them to go around (the reason why you here Johnny Yong Bosch's voice EVERYWHERE). Because of this, some dubs will have good matches for the characters and others won't. So, I understand why some dubs are good and others are not.

    For me, I prefer dubs. Even if I have seen the subbed version, I will still watch the dubbed version when it comes on television.

    Now, I can read subtitles and watch anime, however, since I am fluent in Japanese, the subtitles can often be distracting to me. While I can read them, I would prefer not to have them there at all (since, well, I don't need them). Either their very presence is distracting (I am already translating for myself; I do not need to have them at the bottom of the screen like closed captioning) or they irritate me by being wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gero50 View Post
    The fact of the matter is dubbed anime is just not the real thing. Once you realize this you'll part from most of them just as most anime fans do. I am not saying I hate dubs it's just the Japanese versions are much better and more complete. But you can like whatever you wish as long as you're happy with it then go for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capernicus View Post
    Stupidest statements ever. I've lost all respect for you.
    Especially since several anime directors have said they prefer the dubbed version of their own creation.
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    I'll watch either but I prefer dubs. Why? I'll admit, I'm not the biggest fan of reading subtitles, sorry Capernicus, I'm just not. It's not that I'm stupid, I'm just generally lazy. I also enjoy being able to understand what I hear, not what I read. It's just sometimes more comfortable.

    That being said, I've heard some pretty terrible dubs. I don't want to be the stereotypical hateful anime fan but what the Hell, 4kids? I mean, I don't dislike some slight Westernization of anime but when you change the names to make it seem more Western, the occupations and the places they live...

    Now, sometimes, I hate the Japanese voice actors' performances. Which is why I hate the argument "Japanese voices make the anime more complete" because that's a load of bull. Japanese voice actors can screw things up just as much as and just as bad as English voice actors. I mostly dislike how some voice actors from Japan over-dramatize simple situations by going too far with their voices, like yelling really loud. It just seems cheesy and kiddish.

    So, in the end, both can suck and both can be great.
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    I like both dubbed and subbed pretty much equally. Both can suck and both are awesome in their own way.

    Hell, I watched some subbed anime first and then the dub and thought the dubbed version was better and watched some dubbed and thought subbed was better.

    Though, I kinda like subs since I like to read. The words at the bottom don't bother me at all since I read with the closed captions ALL the time.
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