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    As we all live and grow in this world, we experience a great many things; some good and some bad, and some things that don't quite fit into either category. As this occurs however, we all come across certain aspects that we don't particularly like, ones that we'd really like to change if we could. Everyone feels like this at one point or another. After all, we all know that this world is hardly perfect; but I'd like to believe that each and every one of us has a unique version of our own ideal world within our minds. So, I'd like to hear all of your opinions on what your vision of an ideal world would be.

    With regards to myself; although there is a lot that I would like in this world, such as one that could live without the bitter hatreds that humans bring into each and every generation, one thing in particular I'd like to get rid of is all of the advanced weaponry that has found itself so embedded in our lifetime: guns, missiles, tanks, nuclear warheads, biological weapons, etc. I want this world to get back to the way it was before where people did all of their fighting hand-to-hand; not this confounded dehumanizing way of fighting where there are weapons that don't require any spirit or soul to operate! ><

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    My ideal world would be an imperfect utopia, and all jobs were to focus on entertainment and the advancement of technology rather than just making money. Imagine the higher competition between consoles and other sorts of media.
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    I have to agree with you about the weapons. I really wish certain weapons didn't exist.

    Anyways, I guess my perfect world would be centered around good values. This would include helping people and taking care of yourself, as opposed to trying to obtain power.

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    My ideal world would easily be a world full of peace. But if there was a world full of peace, then the world would never face nightmares. And if there is no nightmares, how can there be peace if there's nothing to compare it too. So I guess the ideal world is the one we live in, even though I wish things like bullying/racism would just vanish.
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    Oh yes, those days before weapons were the good ol' days indeed! Heavens knows no one got hurt, nor was anyone tempted to take advantage of the weak or elderly. As weaponry becomes more advanced and more dehumanized, people have less reason to fear wars. I mean, look at how rare warfare was in pre-modern eras!

    While I'm tempted to offer my own view of a perfect world, I'd sooner rid the world of those trying to create a perfect world. They tend to be the first to ready guillotines to make it happen.



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    My ideal world??? let's see.... I wanna have care friends and always help me, there's no daily test for 3 chapter, and less of industrial place

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    I'm not idealistic enough to create a whole new world.
    If each mistake being made is a new one, then progress is being made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinn Kamiyra View Post
    With regards to myself; although there is a lot that I would like in this world, such as one that could live without the bitter hatreds that humans bring into each and every generation, one thing in particular I'd like to get rid of is all of the advanced weaponry that has found itself so embedded in our lifetime: guns, missiles, tanks, nuclear warheads, biological weapons, etc.I want this world to get back to the way it was before where people did all of their fighting hand-to-hand; not this confounded dehumanizing way of fighting where there are weapons that don't require any spirit or soul to operate! ><
    I can see what you've envisioned in your ideal world to be and I do support your ideals to some extent. But one of the inescapable truth in this subject is that, modern weaponry has somewhat created peace and stability in some parts of our world. The fact that some of us feel safe at our homes is our acknowledgement of the tight security kept in place through many such modern weaponry. If the law enforcements are better equipped we do feel safe at our streets.



    But then again, the downside of such weapons is that, the shear profitibility from it has also attracted many irregularities in the handling of such weapons which has also risen domestic violence, civil conflicts and terrorism. Modern weaponry has indeed created both the sharp rise in violence as well as better security for us. So I say, there should be a proper regularity in the handling of these weapons, and there shouldn't be any business regarding arms and ammunitions whether it be illegal ones or legal ones runned officially by the state. Weapons should be produced and shared/bargained through proper mutual understanding among nations in times of need.


    Some other things I like in my ideal world would be complete lack of prejudice in people, availability of basic technologies in every parts of our world, mutual un-biased cooperation among people of different parts of the world, and universal understanding and helping of one another through some big, powerful and proper funtioning organizations throughout the world. That's some of the characteristics of my ideal world to be.
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    my idea of ideal world is where no one feels like an outsider; where everyone enjoys life and where the problems of life seem distant.....ah, that i'll like...with lots of books, fresh air, grass, etc.etc. of course...

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    Quote Originally Posted by noob imposter View Post
    But then again, the downside of such weapons is that, the shear profitibility from it has also attracted many irregularities in the handling of such weapons which has also risen domestic violence, civil conflicts and terrorism. Modern weaponry has indeed created both the sharp rise in violence as well as better security for us. So I say, there should be a proper regularity in the handling of these weapons, and there shouldn't be any business regarding arms and ammunitions whether it be illegal ones or legal ones runned officially by the state. Weapons should be produced and shared/bargained through proper mutual understanding among nations in times of need.
    Please demonstrate the causal relationship between advancement of weaponry and increase of violence.

    How are you determining a time of need? Is it when someone burglarizes another's home? When a woman faces rape or other abuse? When a dictatorship decides upon genocide to achieve its goals? How about when one segment of the population engages in genocide under the banner of ethnic cleansing?

    The notion of taking any item or service and completely barring its sale by a business is ludicrous. But then, we're also talking about utopia, so this makes sense.


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    One where logic, reason and rhetorics is hammered into the skulls of every child. It would solve a great deal of problems, I tell you.

    Most problems stem from politicians persuading people that a stupid idea is a good one, mostly through irrelevant arguments or otherwise faulty logic. If the moment they started spouting their fallacies, someone walked up to them and poked huge holes in their arguments, the capability for stupid political decisions would be drastically reduced, and society would be better.

    There would be no need for guns, or violence, or unfairness. But we might need to imprison people who refuse to follow our logical ways. Though you'll never know they are missing. What's an aunt here and a mailman there? It's all for the greater good.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by noob imposter View Post
    I can see what you've envisioned in your ideal world to be and I do support your ideals to some extent. But one of the inescapable truth in this subject is that, modern weaponry has somewhat created peace and stability in some parts of our world. The fact that some of us feel safe at our homes is our acknowledgement of the tight security kept in place through many such modern weaponry. If the law enforcements are better equipped we do feel safe at our streets.



    But then again, the downside of such weapons is that, the shear profitibility from it has also attracted many irregularities in the handling of such weapons which has also risen domestic violence, civil conflicts and terrorism. Modern weaponry has indeed created both the sharp rise in violence as well as better security for us. So I say, there should be a proper regularity in the handling of these weapons, and there shouldn't be any business regarding arms and ammunitions whether it be illegal ones or legal ones runned officially by the state. Weapons should be produced and shared/bargained through proper mutual understanding among nations in times of need.


    Some other things I like in my ideal world would be complete lack of prejudice in people, availability of basic technologies in every parts of our world, mutual un-biased cooperation among people of different parts of the world, and universal understanding and helping of one another through some big, powerful and proper funtioning organizations throughout the world. That's some of the characteristics of my ideal world to be.
    Your idea and perception has merit; however, perhaps I should elaborate a bit more on what it is I want in my ideal world with regards to my earlier comment about eliminate technological weapons. Before I get into that however, I would like to ask you how you believe that this world has come into a somewhat state of peace and stability due to the influx of our modern-age weapons. Because, at least coming from my point of view, no matter how you spin it that is simply a world that has created the illusiion of peace due to people's fear of being killed and/or oppressed by said weapons.

    In my world, I would not want people to have to feel safe due to a weapons' capability of killing and/or harming another human being. Such a thing is merely a means by which to start a chain of hatred that sees naught but sadness and despair within this world; something that I see all too often. Now, with this mind, you must surely be asking yourself how I would intend to protect my world without technological weapons.

    Actually, my answer comes in part with something that you said. By unifying humanity and using their collaborate resources and intelligence to dramatically advance our scientific prowess, I would hope to create a world-wide system by which to protect all of humanity. Now I don't believe that any system, regardless of how seemingly proficient and/or perfect it may be, would ever be able to protect everyone; however, my main goal would be to substantially decrease the number of unnatural deaths that would occur. As to what this system would be and how it would operate; well... that sounds more like something that I could write a thousand-page college thesis on rather than sum it up in this one little text.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinn Kamiyra View Post
    Such a thing is merely a means by which to start a chain of hatred that sees naught but sadness and despair within this world; something that I see all too often.
    Oh goody. Are examples forthcoming?

    (I'm starting to really like Eris' idea of indoctrinating youth with the fundamentals of logic more and more...)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Forgotten Show View Post
    (I'm starting to really like Eris' idea of indoctrinating youth with the fundamentals of logic more and more...)
    The biggest question is why isn't it taught at a young age? It isn't that terribly difficult, and it's certainly up there with basic arithmetic in the life skills department. Not only does it teach you how to come to sound conclusions based on what you know, but it also prevents others from convincing you of things that are wrong. If that isn't an important skill, I don't know what is.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Forgotten Show View Post
    Oh goody. Are examples forthcoming?

    (I'm starting to really like Eris' idea of indoctrinating youth with the fundamentals of logic more and more...)


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    -Blink- Are examples really necessary for this one? I would think that near the whole of this world would serve as an example. People hurt other with weapons every single day, and those who care about the person who was hurt will inevitably feel anger towards the one who did the initial harm; thus leading them to wanting to seek vengeance and/or retribution against said person. This in turn creates the same cycle for those who cared about that person, and so on and so on.

    Even if it doesn't amount to actual physical violence, psychological warfare can come into play. If you want an example of this, then you need only reflect upon how, more than likely, you've seen Middle and/or High School children act. I've certainly seen incidents where said children last out against one another, and it goes on and on until someone forcefully puts a stop to it. Rarely have I seen a situation where those involved decided of their own volition to come a peaceful solution and they resolved their hatred towards one another in a respectable and adult-like manner. Granted, many of the catalysts which provoked these situations did not involve actual firearms and/or weapons; however, I'd be happy to round up a list of incidents that did involve such if you'd like it.

    It's only natural for humans who follow through with their animal instincts to want to exact their anger against those who did them wrong. 'Tis why we have our intelligence and capacity for a high moral ethic to stand against our impulsive nature and rise above it. However, that's hardly a standard in our world; and we all see things almost every day that fall in line with this.

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    This world is beautiful and complex enough. Hypothetical architect, no thanks. In my younger days, I waxed poetic utopia. If anything, I'm hopeful I can have a positive impact by the Final Scale. There's so much I haven't seen....

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    Well I know that no matter how hard we tried, we will never achieve a perfect world. Why? Because one person's perfect world, is another person's nightmare. Even if logic was embedded into humanity at an early age, it still won't bring anything because everyone thinks so differently. The only way to try and establish a perfect world is by working towards a dictatorship.

    Anyway, my perfect world would consist of less advanced weaponry, and also it will give people more leisure time. By leisure time I mean that instead of working 8 hours a day, you work somewhere about 2-4 hours a day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SigmaSD View Post
    Well I know that no matter how hard we tried, we will never achieve a perfect world. Why? Because one person's perfect world, is another person's nightmare. Even if logic was embedded into humanity at an early age, it still won't bring anything because everyone thinks so differently. The only way to try and establish a perfect world is by working towards a dictatorship.
    Either something is logically sound, or it isn't. What does and does not logically follow is not a matter of personality or preference. It is universally, undeniably and irrevocably so.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Anger Bag! View Post
    Either something is logically sound, or it isn't. What does and does not logically follow is not a matter of personality or preference. It is universally, undeniably and irrevocably so.
    No no no. I know that, but what I meant to say is that even if it is logically sound, people will not accept it anyway. People are just weird like that. They are just sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SigmaSD View Post
    No no no. I know that, but what I meant to say is that even if it is logically sound, people will not accept it anyway. People are just weird like that. They are just sometimes.
    Though those people haven't been indoctrinated with logic since they were kids, so they can hardly be considered representative a population that has. Most people couldn't tell identify a logically sound statement if it dropkicked them in the face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anger Bag! View Post
    Though those people haven't been indoctrinated with logic since they were kids, so they can hardly be considered representative a population that has. Most people couldn't tell identify a logically sound statement if it dropkicked them in the face.
    Yeah but even if you were to educate people in logic, it would change everyone the way you would hope. There are always exceptions to everything. You could increase the amount of people who would use logic, but there will always be that small percentage of the population that would still dismiss it no matter what. After all, we are just human. It would be weird if everyone thought the same way though. Life would sure be boring.

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