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    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    My voice is not particularly useful for any of these. My spoken English is hard to understand at best.
    we'll be the judges XD jk but seriously dont worry about it, i'm sure we'll all understand each other fine

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinita View Post
    I think Shay has a good idea. Except, how would we do that video/conference thing with so many people?

    I think the story should maybe have a life changing effect on the man or he just dies in the coma. I can kinda hear what the song would sound like....
    we can do the conference call via cell phones, or we can use ventrillo on our pc's. anyone aware of some good video conferencing software please make suggestions. worst case scenario we'll use this chat client Kirei introduced me to. i would prefer we AT LEAST use voice communication.

    yeah fini i believe what i was somewhat getting at was this will, among other things, be a love story. during his stay in the hospital his wife comes to his bedside and just talks. years of minimal communication brought to an end. but the frustration present in themusic will be from his inability to communicate with her. i'm being really vague because really i would love for us as a group to fill in the details. we all have our own experiences we can project onto this story and really breathe life into it.

    of course this is just ONE idea. we can do something completely different. so please share your thoughts and ideas.
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    I like the idea. So do we go into space and beyond after he goes into that coma then? Or he doesn't fall into a coma and is ok after the crash but has an existential epiphany and goes on a spirit journey...or something.

    I like the remix of the remix. It adds a lot of volume.

    If we do agree on a video conference how bout stickam?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaShayRitto View Post
    we'll be the judges XD jk but seriously dont worry about it, i'm sure we'll all understand each other fine
    I do have a gender meme to protect as well. We'll see. I might be able to cook up an adequate voice filter. I do have some scraps of code laying around that probably could be modified for that purpose.

    That, or I'll solder something up. But then I might need to butcher some old junk for parts, so that's plan B.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    I do have a gender meme to protect as well. We'll see. I might be able to cook up an adequate voice filter. I do have some scraps of code laying around that probably could be modified for that purpose.
    You could put a bag over your head and just type out your messages. Or use a puppet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miniPhil View Post
    I like the idea. So do we go into space and beyond after he goes into that coma then? Or he doesn't fall into a coma and is ok after the crash but has an existential epiphany and goes on a spirit journey...or something.

    I like the remix of the remix. It adds a lot of volume.

    If we do agree on a video conference how bout stickam?
    i feel like the spacey vibe conveys his mental existence. like a body floating in an endless black void

    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    I do have a gender meme to protect as well. We'll see. I might be able to cook up an adequate voice filter. I do have some scraps of code laying around that probably could be modified for that purpose.

    That, or I'll solder something up. But then I might need to butcher some old junk for parts, so that's plan B.
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    two things. To go along with Shayan's theme I like the coma idea. I think the first "movement" so to speak after the coma should be something like the remix we have all been listening to very soft...not very busy conveying the isolation and loneliness theme we are touching...after that I think we should use a very fast fusion style sound to help convey a confusion or lack of understanding and a struggle to maintain sanity. We can use some odd time signatures and fast tempos to simulate this. Just throwing some ideas out there.

    Second thing if anyone cares....two very epic scifi music story lines I have run across. 2112 by Rush (of course) and then a group called Chronicles of Israfel the album is Star Tome I. Just as a little muse to get the plot weaving ball rolling. Both these albums are excellent at portraying the characters emotions through the story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abscifi View Post
    two things. To go along with Shayan's theme I like the coma idea. I think the first "movement" so to speak after the coma should be something like the remix we have all been listening to very soft...not very busy conveying the isolation and loneliness theme we are touching...after that I think we should use a very fast fusion style sound to help convey a confusion or lack of understanding and a struggle to maintain sanity. We can use some odd time signatures and fast tempos to simulate this. Just throwing some ideas out there.

    Second thing if anyone cares....two very epic scifi music story lines I have run across. 2112 by Rush (of course) and then a group called Chronicles of Israfel the album is Star Tome I. Just as a little muse to get the plot weaving ball rolling. Both these albums are excellent at portraying the characters emotions through the story.
    i like the idea about the fast part coming in from the atmospheric stuff. there can be like a loud sound suddenly (guitar strum?) like someone coming up for air and gasping. and what follows can be very frantic as he tries to figure out what the hell is happening. something moderately uptempo and in 7/8 or 3/4 time would be effective. the song can also go into a more laid back 4/4 part sort of like a chorus before gearing back up and into the faster "verse". im gonna jam some stuff out now
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaShayRitto View Post
    i remember your gender was actually revealed in a misc. thread not long ago. someone called you "dude" and then another member went "believe it or not eris is actually a girl". Lmao i appreciate your dedication to your internet persona though
    Well I've not confirmed or denied anything. General consensus seems to lean towards girl since that's the story some prominent AF members are touting, but some people have their doubts. The official line when people ask whether I'm a girl or a guy is "yes."

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    Tool already wrote that song. It's called "Every Day is Exactly the Same".
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    the song can also go into a more laid back 4/4 part sort of like a chorus before gearing back up and into the faster "verse". im gonna jam some stuff out now
    As a quick edit to that I would vote a slow 6/8 for a laid back feel. 6/8 is very good for that feel. For those who don't know that is counted 123123 sort of like tripilets. Let's see as an example: Limelight by Rush...they have a 6/8 section.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kirei-chan View Post
    Tool already wrote that song. It's called "Every Day is Exactly the Same".
    lmao! such a good song too...

    i have another concept i've been writing stuff for for a few years now, but it takes us away from the spacey realm quite a bit. adam, if you remember that 9 minute thrash prog song i wrote when me and marjan had that band then its pretty much that concept. i dont wanna go into too much of a geek rant because i'm quite partial to this concept, but its essentially an end of the world story.
    the aforementioned song is about Gog and Magog, but with a lot of creative liberties taken to make it more bad ***. in our version, gog and magog are two gaints imprisoned in the center of the earth.

    there's two more songs i've kind of got the blueprints down for, one involves an arctodus guarding a mountain pass and the other involves a monolith suddenly appearing in the desert. i could go on and on explaining the characters and such but we'll only get into that if people like this idea.

    i really want to hear what everyone else has in mind too. i think i'm geeking out too much here o.o;
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    Not at all Shay! Lol But there needs to at least be some variety in themes. Can't always focus on dramatic and sci-fi ish themes. Lol



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    Quote Originally Posted by RaShayRitto View Post
    i really want to hear what everyone else has in mind too. i think i'm geeking out too much here o.o;
    If it seems like a good idea, we can use the wiki on eris.name/wiki to make a community editable idea draft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infinita View Post
    Not at all Shay! Lol But there needs to at least be some variety in themes. Can't always focus on dramatic and sci-fi ish themes. Lol
    LIES! >=(

    =P haha yeah i love me some sci fi, but that doesnt mean that there wont be more relatable stuff contained within. for example, an unfolding love story? characters with internal struggles? the larger picture is just there to make everything ridiculously epic for guys like me who get bored easily with more domestic stuff ^^;. i'm immature and have no attention span o.o
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    Lets go the other way entirely. Lets have a very mundane story. A guy gets up in the morning to get breakfast but discovers theres no bread. So he has to go to the shop to get some. The he comes back and makes toast.

    You could have a nice calm opening in a bright key then a quick key change with lots of dissonance to represent the shock there is no bread. The music picks up pace as he races to the shop. A build up to represent his return home and a satisfactory climax to show the toast has popped up.
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    I'm glad the conversation moved this way. I've always wanted to do an album (or at least a series of songs) to depict my religion's creation story. It's a very beautiful story, and if any of you are interested, I'll post it. It just always had this very epic feel to it in my head and it wa something that could be aptly portrayed in music. I may sit down with FL studio and a guitfiddle when I get off. ~nodnod~
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    Quote Originally Posted by miniPhil View Post
    Lets go the other way entirely. Lets have a very mundane story. A guy gets up in the morning to get breakfast but discovers theres no bread. So he has to go to the shop to get some. The he comes back and makes toast.

    You could have a nice calm opening in a bright key then a quick key change with lots of dissonance to represent the shock there is no bread. The music picks up pace as he races to the shop. A build up to represent his return home and a satisfactory climax to show the toast has popped up.
    hm...does said toast then transform into a beautiful maiden and the guy is inwittingly thrust into a power struggle between warring space factions?

    Quote Originally Posted by kirei-chan View Post
    I'm glad the conversation moved this way. I've always wanted to do an album (or at least a series of songs) to depict my religion's creation story. It's a very beautiful story, and if any of you are interested, I'll post it. It just always had this very epic feel to it in my head and it wa something that could be aptly portrayed in music. I may sit down with FL studio and a guitfiddle when I get off. ~nodnod~
    please do! at least let us get the gist of it, we'll get into the real nitty gritty once people decide what they like. at the moment i'm liking the spacey theme, though i'm thinking a different concept for it is in order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaShayRitto View Post
    hm...does said toast then transform into a beautiful maiden and the guy is inwittingly thrust into a power struggle between warring space factions?
    What? You mean like this?
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    This is a Sig. It's horribly out of date.

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    lmao!

    dude :O



    props!
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    The question is where do we go from here? Why are the two factions waring and what significance is the beautiful maiden?
    Also I just noticed I named the file toaststroy. Epic spelling fail.

    But yeah, have we completely abandoned stuff like J-rock or other styles and just stick to prog? I like the concepts(and want to hear more about Shay's stuff and Kirei's religion) but does anyone feel like making a song bout anime forum? Kind of like what it means to everyone.
    This is a Sig. It's horribly out of date.

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    Why are the two factions waring and what significance is the beautiful maiden?
    so idea on the warring factions...half the album tells the story of one faction...the other half tells the story of the opposite side. I think we should let the bias come through both think that they are on the side of justice as anyone in war thinks they are no matter the reason. As for the maiden...Well we go with the troy theme that she belonged to the other side but married someone in the opposite faction or she could be some powerful entity whispering to both sides but neither side know where she came from or something awesome like that... and then develop a back story for her that unfolds through the album...just popping out some ideas for brainstorming sake.

    I to though would like to hear the creation story of Kirei's religion.

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    Alright, this is going to be a long post. First, I'll give the creation story. It won't be virbatim, but it should be close. Then I will upload some riffs I worked on for stuffs. One is me playing Flyleaf's "Believe In Dreams" while Oz (our vocalist) sings to it in a rather lack-lustre fashion, and another is an amusing switcheroo where Oz plays Simple Man while I sing to it. That same file has silly banter at the end and half the first verse of one of our bands popular songs by the one-man show, Oz. lawlerz.

    Trephesian Creation
    In the beginning, there was naught but the Nameless. The Nameless existed for many eons until boredom took hold, and he created an eternal canvas of sands on which to paint the things of his musings. In an attempt to vary the scape, the Nameless created water, the element on which all life must rely. This amused him for a time, and then this, too began to bore him. After great though, Trephes created a woman of great beauty, and imbued certain aspects of his semblance into her being. She became the Lady of Dreams and Hope, Lirneira.

    Lirneira was a creature of imagination, playing in the sun and bathing in the waters of the river which ran its course through her chose land. She dreamed of many things, whimsical, practical, beautiful, and otherwise, and longed desperately to bring them into being. Alas, Lirneira lacked the power.

    The Nameless, sensing her frustration and lonesome, created a second child, Galan. Galan was given the gift of form, and he revelled and played in the sands. For a time, he tried his hand at creation, but lacked imagination. Stones and senseless baubles were all that came of him. One day, as Galan wandered amongst the lands, he came upon a river in which bathed Lirneira. She was the most beautiful thing that Galan had ever seen, and he sought to take her hand.

    As Lirneira waded forth from the waters, Galan awaited her, and asked for her hand in marriage. Lirneira was disgusted but his filth and turned him away. Galan was devestated, but not deterred, and he returned to the river each day, always with the same request, and always receiving the same result.

    One day, as Lirneira once again waded forth from the waters, Galan approached wearing a large smile, hands behind his back. Before Lirneira could speak, he revealed to her a single red rose. Lirneira was stricken without voice and stared at the flower for a time before she was able to speak.

    "From where has this come?"

    "My heart," Galan replied.

    Realization dawned upon Lirneira's features, understanding that Galan possessed the power for which she had longed. She thought for a moment, and spoke again.

    "Galan, I will take your hand in wedlock on a single condition," she said.

    Galan replied, "Anything."

    "Wade into the waters of the river, and wash the refuse and filth of the sands from your body. Do this, and we shall be wed."

    Galan spoke not another word, instead taking Lirneira's hand in his, placing within her fingers the rose. He ran directly for the waters, diving in. As he emerged, and approached Lirneira once more, she was surprised to find him quite beautiful. And on that day, the children of Trephes (this is a Dantho-Trephesian word that essentially means "without a name", "nameless", or in a stretch "untitled.") wed.

    For many ages, the two existed together in happiness, creating many things. They first created plants, and the first animals. They created a beautiful forest valley, at the center of which was an enourmous hollow tree. This tree became their home. They next created the first of the sentient races, Venapri (dragons), Wasinko (dolphins), Kalanu (wolves), and Pripu (phoenixeseses). When their work was at pause, they celebrated, mating. This was the conception of a child called Arienril who danced and played among the flowers.

    The ages passed, and the creations continued, later spawning two new races, the Humans, and the Dantheans (which are really both humans, but the Dantheans lived a different lifestyle, the one on which my religion is based. Humans, in later texts are referred to as Sebrosians). Arienril befriended the Kalanu, and with them taught the Dantheans the Way, and lived amongst them, bringing happiness to the people.

    Seeing that things were still well, Lirneira and Galan once again mated, this time spawning Gheist. Gheist was a plague, and took pleasure in destroying all that his lineage created. Lirneira, fearing that the problem had arisen from Galan, banished both her child and her husband from the valley, breaking the bond of wedlock. In her sadness, the valley fell into an eternal winter, and the goddess holed herself up within the hollow tree, taking to a life of dark studies. In time, she became Death. She became Decay (Not only is this a huge turning point for the religion, as we basically traded Dreams and Hope for Death and Decay, but I find it hilarious because of Evanescence. "Look for meeee in the white forest, hiiiiiding in a hollow treeeee. Come find me.").
    * * * * *
    And so forth and so on. I like the story a lot, and it gets pretty in-depth and detailed into other deities as well.

    Okay, I'm an idiot. My files are in WMA, and AF hates me along with WMA, so I'm going to e-mail the files to RaShay and he can post them.
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    I really like the creation story Kirei posted above. Its very inspiring subject matter for lyrics and music, and a very beautifully woven story. I would be perfectly down with pursuing this as a concept

    Kirei, do you already have some ideas on how you would approach this musically? I think that riff I sent last night would fit SOMEWHERE, but I'm not sure yet and its not totally clear to me what emotion that riff conveys

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaShayRitto View Post
    I really like the creation story Kirei posted above. Its very inspiring subject matter for lyrics and music, and a very beautifully woven story. I would be perfectly down with pursuing this as a concept

    Kirei, do you already have some ideas on how you would approach this musically? I think that riff I sent last night would fit SOMEWHERE, but I'm not sure yet and its not totally clear to me what emotion that riff conveys

    Let me know what the rest of you guys think!
    If you're talking about the "here we go" riff, then there's a good place for it. Prolly around the time Ai and Meian get in the [explative deleted] and Meian goes bat[explative deleted] crazy and blows up the mountain Ai was living on, resulting in a battle of epic DBZ proportions.

    As far as my approach... ~opens up FL Studio and starts inporting Final Fantasy MIDIs~ I shall draw inspiration from sources that have incited emotion and history in my past. From there... okay, I got nothin'. I make everything up as I go along. My crative method involves PSP, poptarts and Thundercats, HOOOOOOO!
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    alright so here's the link to my Soundclick page, freshly updated with some recordings Kirei sent me. all the tracks labeled "cloud 9" or "kirei" are hers, as well as Sarah's Waltz.

    http://www.soundclick.com/bands/defa...?bandID=937630

    Magi and Oblivious are just some riffs i came up with for the earth concept i mentioned earlier, but i'm sure they'll work they're way into whatever concept we choose.
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