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    Red face AF Community Music Project: Planning Thread

    Hi everyone
    Thanks for your patience. After I sent out those PM's I sort of dropped off the radar for a bit. Anyway, from now on the bulk of our planning and collaboration will take place in this thread. For those of you just joining us and wondering what is going on, refer to http://www.animeforum.com/showthread.php?t=88429

    I think posting videos is a great way to start off sharing our ideas. If you arent comfortable with showing yourself feel free to just post an audio clip. Lets set some guidelines so we can keep the process as streamlined as possible.
    A) make sure you host your vids/audio on a fast, reliable service. dont make us jump through hoops to access your work! Youtube and soundclick are great options for video and audio,respectively.
    B) either I or gandizzl will keep a master file handy with everyone's most current work on it. Make sure you always have the most up to date project files, you dont want to go through all the trouble of recording the perfect take only to find that the rhythm section decided to play something else.
    C) updates updates updates!!! Keep us updated on your activity via this thread or through private communication with someone you are working closely with. If you are using the latter, make sure you fill us in later on what all transpired.
    D) Those of you who are old enough/have parental consent/laugh in the face of online predators, PM the other contributers any contact info you are willing to communicate with them by (instant messenging, phone, email, smoke signals). In case I havent drilled this in yet, communication is key!
    E) Above all, have fun!

    the above guidelines will DEFINITELY be updated often as we encounter obstacles along the way.
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    okay so i did some vids to get the creative juices flowing. Mostly the riffs and ideas i'm showing are relatively simple pop rock/anthem type stuff that lends itself well to catchy vocal lines. i figured this kind of thing would be at least agreeable to most of you. If not, please share your thoughts! I'm aware some of you play more classical instruments, so if we wanted to go more for that sound i could sit on the bench and contribute with something other than guitar.

    without further adieu.. vid 1: (lame video removed by me)

    vid 2: (same)

    apologies for the audio quality. hopefully my webcam mic can at least convey what i'm getting at
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    I would say I'm extremely intrigued by the Mastodon'ish/stoner stuff you got going in the end of the first video, but then again I'm a metal person.

    But I really liked idea two. I think it would be a really nice first time project as it was not overly complicated and I think it can also be expanded a lot. I think it also is a very all around thing when it comes to vocals, both male or female, soft or hard can sound good with it.

    Can't really say I have more to come with at this point xP

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    yeah my native writing/playing style is heavily influenced by guys like Mastodon, high on fire, melvins.

    i figured we'd start simple, though.

    edit: in fact, the guitar i use in those vids is autographed by mastodon (the silver sharpie stuff). I live quite close to them so i see them live whenever the chance arises. at the first show of the Crack the Skye tour (bham alabama, where i live) i chatted up Brann and got his sig, he then took it onto the bus to get the other autographs since brent and bill were on the bus with family. Troy recognized me from the last time i got his sig (i was wearing the shoes he signed at the end of their blood mountain tour). life is good
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    Electronic muzacs ftw. So what do you think, just throw a bunch of random crap together and send it to you? XDDD
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    sound is bad, and vid looks bad, this isnt my youtube, its my dads and he didnt know the name to the song, its valley of the damned from dragonforce, good solos, its kk, check it out tell me what you think, I havent really came up with much myself.

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    I was talking about my vid, not to confuse anyone, your vids great, if were working with that let me know, I can add some stuff

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    some really neat melodic riffage in that vid! just to clarify, is that a cover of a song? we're shooting for originals here but its good that youre well versed in semi neoclassical metal stuff! it'll deffinitely help offset my meat and potatoes rhythm style
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    yeah its a cover, I can make some up too, just gimmi a key and ill try to make something up

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    Hmm Alright! The thread has started! Ok. You guys did an awesome job with the guitar playing. (I started but ouch...I am terrible. LOL) Ok, I kinda got some idea of what you are looking for. You want original ideas right? Are you looking more towards a certain theme kinda? Like...Joyous or Melancholy? I can do either one. (I started the violin but I can tell you...I find it so difficult to play but once I learned it, maybe it could give it more spice or something)



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    I've heard some pretty epic pieces that featured violins.

    On that note, I think it would be cool if we did this sort of cyclic thing. Like... give all the musicians a BPM, and then we play telephone. The first person write some piece, and then the next person pick up where that person left off, etc. I can tie it all together, mix tracks, and add percussion , and we could make a video to go with it.

    It would be this great epic song that all the musicians are playing in their own respective styles. It would be hawt. ~nodnod~
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    I seriously like that idea! That would be wicked! Except....that would be a very long song. XD



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    Well, no, I mean... yeah, it'd be a bit long, but no more than like 15 minutes. See, I think what will happen is one person writes one super-long song. Then other people play the same song in their own instrument and style. Then what I'll do is chop and slice and all that fun stuff. So in the end the final product shouldn't be much (if any) longer than the original song.
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    thats a good suggestion kirei. it would be fun to experiment with a bunch of different methods as far as getting a tune going. i considered the music video thing too, and we can have a seperate spin off community video project work on those since i'm sure we have some talented film people on the forum!

    and i agree, classical string instruments make everything epic. infinita, if you wanna add some "spice" like you mentioned, then once we start getting down to tracking the real deal you can record whatever you want. accents, solos, what have you. Kirei could also add some orchestral samples to make things sound even bigger

    i think violin would work well with the song gandizzl suggested we go with, but not in an EPIC way. i can see it being the feature instrument though. are you guys sure you want to make something "epic" for our first try? i figured we'd start small and work our way up but if everyone is comfortable enough to start big i'm all for it. I'm a prog metal musician so epic is my thang
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    i wonder why no one noticed the pedobear face i made at the end of the first vid
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    I think we should start small and then progressively go up. When you start epic, you always have to be epic after and what if you fail?! Won't that let down some people? LOL If I ever composed a song, it would be my first one. And yes, I did notice the funny face you made at the end of the vid RaS except...I didn't know where it was from.



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    Well, yeah, we should start small. The big epic comglomeration thingamajigger should be like an ultimate goal on down the line.

    The only reason I bring it up is because we did something sort of like that on the YouTube Community Music Project. I've got a bit of experience.

    I actually have experience in community project planning and whatnot in general. I also do work with a Community-Generated Documentary for Lost Zombies. ~nod~
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    infinita: well i think ideally this project will put out a vareity of songs. so this song might be our simple rock anthem, next one might be something in the vein of a romance anime, then a metal one, then an epic electronic piece...who knows? we could start epic and go anywhere from there

    kirei: its awesome that you have experience with these community internet based projects. dont hesitate to tell me what i'm doing wrong! i'm used to doing this stuff with experienced musicians, so i'm not sure how well i'm doing trying to manage people with various levels of experience. on the seymour duncan forums someone might just throw up a backing track and have everyone improvise solos and we're done in about a night. also, did you figure out any workarounds for your computer's web restrictions? let me know if you still need those vids

    edit: btw infinita pedobear is the character in my avatar. he's a pedophile bear that always has a creepy smile
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    No, no workaround. I doubt one will come, either. E-mail will most likely always be the best bet. You're doing fine so far, though one thing I may point out is that it will mean extra work for those with higher levels of ability. For example, I took piano lessons when I was younger and was in high school band. Because of that, I read sheet music with relative proficiency. However, there are many very talented musicians ~coughhackguitaristscough~ that can only read tablature. So if a player can't, for example, "pick up on" how the song is played, various different notation systems may be needed to get the music on paper.
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    Kirei does prove a point. Being able to read guitar tabs and reading music are a tad different. Unless you read the notes instead of the tab, now that's a different story. Or, if you just listen then play it...that's different too.



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    Right, and basically all that means is that every time something is written, we'll need at least two notation systems for every instrument.
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    True true. That could mean more time adding tabs if you want a guitar to play in that song as well. Which isn't bad. I know how to read tabs to an extent since I kinda picked up a guitar a few weeks ago.



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    ha well i'm one of those *coughhackguitarists* for ya! i've been playing in bands and performing live for years, and have never written anything down besides lyrics. cant read sheet music, dont bother with tabs, i guess because when youre jamming in a garage you can communicate parts visually and when two guitarists are experienced enough to know their instrument, you often dont even need to show the other guy what youre doing.

    thats not to say i wont happily tab things out for people who need them. its a pain in the butt for someone like me but i've had to before for another over the internet thing like this
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    Hrm. Try this one on. Dropped D tuning. One I was fiddling around with:


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    ---7~~-7--7-7-7~-7-7h8~-8--8-8-8---
    ---7~~-7--7-7-7~-7-7h8~-8--8-8-8---
    ---5~~-5--5-5-5~-5-5 ~~-5--5-5-5---
    ---5~~-5--5-5-5~-5-5 ~~-5--5-5-5---


    The pattern continues similarly with these chords:


    ----- ---- ---- ----
    ----- ---- ---- ----
    --11- --5- --4- --3-
    --11- --5- --4- --3-
    --9-- --3- --2- --1-
    --9-- --3- --2- --1-


    I know it looks stupid right now, but I'll record something later and bring it in. I should be able to upload a sound file or e-mail it or something.
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    ha! i knew the thrid song idea would be good for you, considering the description you gave me of your style. i use the exact same chord shapes but without the G string

    the song uses

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    5--6--9--and 10
    3--3--7--------7
    3--3--7--------7 drop D tuning. i'm on a ps3 right now but once i'm at a computer i'll be sure to compress the hell out of those vids for you and email them
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