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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanukana View Post
    Wow, all in all, this is looking like a pretty epic Arc. It would be neat if it was Kenpachi's, but I doubt it only because it's not in the manga and Kenpachi finding out the name of his sword is a pretty big event for filler.
    I was thinking the same thing.
    Kenny figuring out the name of his sword would be pretty huge, so I think he will somehow play a big role in this arc, but not as big as I thought before I really thought about it.

    Has anyone seen ep. 231? If so what did you guys think about it?
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    231 was amazing!

    i wanna know where byakuya is Dx


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    I watched 231 today. I don't want to give too much away for anyone who hasn't watched it, but it's a good episode It involves Byakuya and Rukia, I love those two! It's also cool seeing what their zanpaktous look like. But Mayuri's zanpaktou confuses me. Isn't it supposed to self-destruct if it doesn't obey him? I guess these sort of inconsistencies can be expected in fillers, oh well. Overall I'm pleased with the arc so far.

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    i didntlike 231, it was full of blah blah blah and not enough action.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Seiya View Post
    i didntlike 231, it was full of blah blah blah and not enough action.
    I thought that too, but ep. 231 definitely sets ep. 232 for a lot of action, or so it seems. I am curious about Byakuya as well. I am going to stop talking now though so not to spoil anything, but I really liked ep. 231.
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    Well to make a point as you can see the TOP three powerful Zanpakuto spirits were sent to deal with Yamamoto. And who do those Spirit go to. Ukitake, Kyoraku, and Unohana. The only three Captain's left from the turn back arc, and the only ones still active from around that time. As this reveals they must be the strongest of the lot. I doubt a Zanpakuto spirit that has yet to go bankai can stand against the old man. Also does Muramasa have the old man's zanpakuto on his side. If so then they are in trouble I think his spirit is a dragon to tell the truth.

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    After watching ep. 232 we now know Muramasa is indeed a zanpaktou, so the possibility of him being Zaraki's zanpaktou is increasing.

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    This theory about Muramasa being Kenpachi's does seem to make sense at first glance. Being in that that self-indulged man never bothered to even learn his sword's name, let alone unleash it in a battle, serves to justify Muramasa's desire for all Zanpakutou to rule over their respective Shinigami. But, the truth in that the size of the Zanpakutou's original form reflects its owner's overall spiritual energy concerns me. Being in that Kenpachi is so powerful even without his Shikai, it makes me wonder just how far Muramasa's power goes if he is indeed his sword.

    On a separate note, I kinda hope that Zangetsu does decide to go rogue for a while. Mayhaps then Strawberry boy will get a chance to get the lesson of just how powerful his sword really is beat into that dense head of this; especially if Zangetsu utilizes his Bankai mode and FINALLY shows the speed that we pretty much only got a one-shot glimpse at in the Ichigo vs Byakuya fight. It's just annoying how Ichigo is so dense, especially after all his training on his first trip to Soul Society, about drawing out his sword's power. I have to wonder if Kubo decided if he overdid Ichigo's speed when he first revealed his Bankai and made him into the disappointment we know him to be today. (By the way, I would've expected more of a fight out of his little bout with Sode No Shirayuki. Disappointing to see how easily he got his tail handed to him even with his Bankai >>)

    Anyway, all I'll say is that this filler arc, perhaps the only one that looks halfway decent, has some potential. Here's hoping they don't mess it up.

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    Actually that was pretty much clear to me at least that Muramasa is a Zanpakutou, because he said : The zanpakutou will rule over the shinigami and he was will all the Zanpakutou + when we first saw him other Zanpakutou said that they have a new friend. So that was obvious to me that he was a Zanpakutou.
    About other things: Yep... Ichigo is pretty much weak. I hope Zangetsu will betray him, because I have no idea how Ichigo would fight then. I mean he doesn't know how to use kidou and he would love Hollow, because it was part of Zangetsu too.
    By the way, they mentioned all the Captains were safe, but they said only kyouraku ukitake soifon komamura mayuri unohana. I wonder where is Hitsugaya then?
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    In the preview it shows that Zangetsu does betray ichigo and they fight in the next episode, but ichigo can still hax and use shikai for some reason.

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    With regards to Zangetsu's decision to fight against Ichigo, there's a certain thought that comes to mind. Since Hollow Ichigo is in fact a part of Zangetsu, does that in fact mean that with this betrayal, Ichigo will no longer be able to use his hollow powers? I wonder if Zangetsu will mask up instead? x.X That would be pretty sweet to see, now that I think about it. Zangetsu pwns Ichigo in my book in every single way, so it'd be awesome to see him use Ichigo's hollow mask the way I think it should be meant to be used; without mercy and total pwnage.

    Also, I wanna see Ryujin Jakka . It's been demonstrated time and again as one of, if not the most powerful Zanpaktuou in the entire series; and it's already been mentioned early on that it didn't seem to want to cooperate with Muramasa and the rest. It's not so surprising seeing as how long it must've been with the Captain-Commander, but I'd still like to see its true form.

    Hrm... there's also the matter of the Bankai release. We saw in the 2nd episode of this new arc that the Zanpaktuou obviously have the ability to access their Bankai modes, as Renji and Kurotsuchi's Zankpaktuou did in their first strike against the Shinigami. Although it's probably a false hope that we'll get to see any of the other Zanpaktuou's Bankai powers to those respective Shinigami that have yet to attain them. Still, it'd be cool I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Freddie_ View Post
    In the preview it shows that Zangetsu does betray ichigo and they fight in the next episode, but ichigo can still hax and use shikai for some reason.

    that'd be becuase Zangetsu and Kenpachi's Zapakutou are always in their released forms

    mentioned in episode 40something by yoruichi before the bankai training

    cant help thinking zangetsu's betrayal is subterfuge D:


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    I think that Kenpachi might have allready learned the name of his zanpaktou and while no-one knows this he was actually busy talking to it or training with it, because after hes fight with Ichigo in the begging he was lying on the ground and he asked hes sword what its name is, so I think he allready learned the name of his sword and they are going to play a major role in this whole thing together because everyone thinks he doesn't know the name yet so it will come as a big surprise to everyone

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    you'd think kennys zanpaktou would be the first to join musamura's chop squad XD
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    would someone mind pm'ing me when the filler ends? That'd be cool.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OminousCloud View Post
    would someone mind pm'ing me when the filler ends? That'd be cool.
    why when it ends? aren't you interested too see all the zanpaktous true forms and all that?

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    It's not that I'm not interested, it's just that I have an internet cap. It would work out better for me to use those downloads on something else.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OminousCloud View Post
    It's not that I'm not interested, it's just that I have an internet cap. It would work out better for me to use those downloads on something else.
    lol I know what you mean by the cap, its a pain in the ***, you could always go to some convention and get the episodes from one of the people there, thats how I do it.

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    I loved the battle at 233... the most interestin part in this zanpaktu arc, zangetsu's fighting skills pwned ichigo many times until hollow surpassed by far zangetsu with the full form. If ichigo could fight like zangetsu he could pwn almost any captain.


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    this was a good episode, some good action going on. I wasnt expecting full hollow ichigo to appear. I like the way zangetsu fights, all calmed, thats the way ichigo should be lol. Next episode looks awesome, muramasa vs hollow ichi, this will be interesting


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    im still thinking zangetsu's betrayal was subterfuge


    he's the only zanpakutou so have been forcibly removed from a shinigami


    lest we forget the very start of the filler arc when Zanegtsu asks ichigo "can you hear that" ichigo replies "no" and zangetsu replies with "good"

    but yeah next episode looks funkay O:


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    Poor Zangetsu got pwned by Hollow Ichigo . Kenpachi still hasn't shown up. I wonder when will he come .(Still no Hitsugaya too )
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    im beginning to think that kenpachi wont show up and muramasa will state that he belongs to kenpachi, but kenpachi will never find out because he wasnt around lol EDIT: now that i think about it, it seems like muramasa isnt kenpachis sword after seeing muramasas zanpaktou it doest look like kenpachis sword at all
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    Quote Originally Posted by Return of Ryushin View Post
    lol I know what you mean by the cap, its a pain in the ***, you could always go to some convention and get the episodes from one of the people there, thats how I do it.
    What do you mean by cap? Why do you have a limit on your download usage or whatever? That would really suck though.

    Anyways, as far as the filler goes, it still has ceased to disappoint me. I agree though with everyone saying that Ichigo should fight like Zangetsu. It would be cool if Ichigo could go to that world with Zangetsu and train with him or something, and become a better fighter. I cannot wait for the next episode. THis one came and went so quickly. By the time it was 'To Be Continued...' I was like, wait what just happened?...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinn Kamiyra View Post
    With regards to Zangetsu's decision to fight against Ichigo, there's a certain thought that comes to mind. Since Hollow Ichigo is in fact a part of Zangetsu, does that in fact mean that with this betrayal, Ichigo will no longer be able to use his hollow powers? I wonder if Zangetsu will mask up instead? x.X That would be pretty sweet to see, now that I think about it. Zangetsu pwns Ichigo in my book in every single way, so it'd be awesome to see him use Ichigo's hollow mask the way I think it should be meant to be used; without mercy and total pwnage.

    Also, I wanna see Ryujin Jakka . It's been demonstrated time and again as one of, if not the most powerful Zanpaktuou in the entire series; and it's already been mentioned early on that it didn't seem to want to cooperate with Muramasa and the rest. It's not so surprising seeing as how long it must've been with the Captain-Commander, but I'd still like to see its true form.

    Hrm... there's also the matter of the Bankai release. We saw in the 2nd episode of this new arc that the Zanpaktuou obviously have the ability to access their Bankai modes, as Renji and Kurotsuchi's Zankpaktuou did in their first strike against the Shinigami. Although it's probably a false hope that we'll get to see any of the other Zanpaktuou's Bankai powers to those respective Shinigami that have yet to attain them. Still, it'd be cool I think.

    Ok let me see if I can't be of help........<Takes DEEP breath>

    Yes it is ture that hollow Ichigo, and Zangetsu are of ONE being. However Zangetsu was the MAIN source of Ichigo's power. With Zangetsu gone Hollow Ichigo had the chance to take over, as it was a combine effort of BOth Ichigo, and Zangetsu to supress him. Hollow Ichigo has INDEPENDENT powers from Zangetsu, as you can see in his Cero, and Sonido. So the half reminas that NOW Hollow Ichigo is the source of Ichigo's power. Ichigo however does have his own reaitsu, as you can see when he rips the mask off.

    Side theroy from me.

    Hollow Ichigo's Getusga Tenshou was still black. Why?? Because he was the one to use it first making it HIS technique. Therefore I believe that when the three split, Ichigo, Zangetsu, and HI, Hollow Ichigo took the bankai technique, and keep it meaning that if Zangetsu uses bankai then I doubt his getsuga tenshou will be Black.

    With Muramasa, everyone is believing it is Kenpachi's, I think not. I believe it is Tousens. Tousens Zanpakuto, the current one he is using, is not his, meaning where is his. I believe that Muramasa bleeds from his eyes from the fact that his own is blind, he has the power to set Zanpakuto free, Tousen his free from sight, or something like that. Whatever. I just think it his his.

    On the thought of Yamamoto, his zanpakuto shouldn;t be released yet, it's TOOOOOOOOOO early with the release of his spirirt I think everything would just burst into a ball of flames, and fury. So NO NO NO keep him locked till the middle or end.

    Zangetsu. As he stated he wants to see a forest, Ichigo cannot create a forest for him. His mind is in the middle of conflict, and stress, this can be explained through the display of his inner world. It's turned to the side half is the sky, and half building. I believe the building show the challenges Ichigo faces while the sky represents the open ended flow of his spiritual energy.

    Ichigo is different then most. He uses not one or two but four different energies.

    He uses his own, Zangetsu's, HI's, and the collection of spiritual energy he absorbs while in Hollow form. To tell the truth if Ichgo could concentrate soirutal enrgy, like Uryuu, then he would be unstoppable. Think me wrong then think again.

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