Originally Posted by
High Risk
For the sake of this argument let us assume I am talking about a depressed/lonely person.
If suicide is so selfish and would hurt the people around said suicidal person, why are these people not helping? You're calling a person selfish for being depressed and wanting to kill themselves, yet you never did anything to help this person and only say that you wanted to help them... you wanted to help them but they never asked for help. And now they are dead, how dare they?! Let's keep blaming this person because obviously we can't blame ourselves for anything.
You asked this person if everything was alright but they didn't want to talk about it so you dropped the subject. So you never bothered to help them but oh yeah, you wanted to help. Of course, you didn't help them out of your own fear. Why couldn't you have dropped the subject and perhaps taken them out somewhere, maybe go for a walk? Or force them to seek the help that they need. But you didn't, because you were scared or maybe just too busy.
If this person felt some sort of friendship from anyone, or that at least someone really, truly, cared about them do you honestly think they would have killed themselves? Most likely not.
I'm failing to see who the selfish one is here. You, the one who wanted to help them but failed to do so out of your own fears (and are now cursing this poor soul for killing themselves and making POOR LITTLE YOU sad), or the person who committed suicide out of their own fears and depression, with no one actually extending a hand and truly helping.
Curse them for not thinking about YOUR feelings!
In essence, you never owed them anything but in return they never owed you anything either. You never had to help this person out, but as it goes, they never owed you their life.
In my opinion, both parties are selfish in the same way that both parties are not selfish. Our own personal needs will always be above the needs of others. This person obviously needed your support and you never gave it to them. If you had given them a sufficient amount of support I am relatively sure they would think twice about suicide, unless the person is a complete idiot or a mental case.
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