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    Quote Originally Posted by ◕‿◕ View Post
    I agree. I can understand a fine, but why arrested? Why such a big deal over a stupid story? A person under 18 should not be put into prison over child pornography. They should be put into a juvi(juvenile detention center). This incident doesn't even deserve a slammer in the juvi.
    They shouldn't be punished at all, at least not if the alleged CP depicts themselves. It's like being arrested for robbing yourself when you withdraw money from an ATM. It's absolutely absurd: There is no victim in the crime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by This name is a lie View Post
    They shouldn't be punished at all, at least not if the alleged CP depicts themselves. It's like being arrested for robbing yourself when you withdraw money from an ATM. It's absolutely absurd: There is no victim in the crime.
    Exactly! She needs help and counseling, more then being registered as a sex offender. Just think of how much more that could damage herself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Diocletian View Post
    Don't bother Mori, he believes that the human body is beautiful. Lols, ain't it?

    I believe that you should be ashamed of your body. Who do you think you are exposing yourself? A PANDA!? A FREAKIN' PANDA!?
    Again, he should totally go prancing around nude in... New York City, perhaps?

    And use "But I'm just expressing myself because I'm beautiful" as an excuse.

    Or maybe he should post a bunch of inappropriate pictures of himself on AF and still use that excuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ◕‿◕ View Post
    I agree. I can understand a fine, but why arrested? Why such a big deal over a stupid story? A person under 18 should not be put into prison over child pornography. They should be put into a juvi(juvenile detention center). This incident doesn't even deserve a slammer in the juvi.
    Nor does it deserve a lifetime of handing out notices that you're a registered sex offender that was found guilty of distributing child pornography, but that's what she's getting.

    It's perfectly absurd that she's going to get the social permab&hammer for putting them on Myspace instead of Photobucket like the other, less idiotic jailbait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanosuke23 View Post
    Nor does it deserve a lifetime of handing out notices that you're a registered sex offender that was found guilty of distributing child pornography, but that's what she's getting.

    It's perfectly absurd that she's going to get the social permab&hammer for putting them on Myspace instead of Photobucket like the other, less idiotic jailbait.
    It is sad, isn't it?

    While I can understand this not being allowed, certainly, she shouldn't be marked as a sexual predator for the rest of her life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manhattan_Project_2000 View Post
    Well, you are free to establish your own ethics, I guess. I see nothing wrong with trying her itself, it's simply that the punishment is too severe for the crime.
    But then, how would you prosecute an underage in the court even if the punishments were lenient? All the expenses would be paid by the parents and it would appear like the parents themselves are on trial and so parents should be trialed instead. Besides, having a kid on trial would only further escalate the negative feelings the kid has or it would only have severe impact on her mentality. But, hey... nobody mentioned child rights and such till now .


    "Protection: Children have the right to protection from abuse, neglect, exploitation and discrimination. This includes the right to safe places for children to play; constructive child rearing behavior, and acknowledgment of the evolving capacities of children."


    This case is surely in contradicion with this child right.

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    The Boyfriend is only equally guilty if he solicited the pictures. I don't agree with any interpretation of the law that allows people to get you arrested through no fault of your own.
    Well, it is said that the investigating is further going on, so, we don't know who the true culprit is. I'd say the true culprit should be the one who suggested it to her in the first place (she's just 14). Though, if she came up with that ingenious idea with herself, then I have to agree that she was an idiotic and insane individual herself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lone_Sannin View Post
    But then, how would you prosecute an underage in the court even if the punishments were lenient? All the expenses would be paid by the parents and it would appear like the parents themselves are on trial and so parents should be trialed instead. Besides, having a kid on trial would only further escalate the negative feelings the kid has or it would only have severe impact on her mentality. But, hey... nobody mentioned child rights and such till now .


    "Protection: Children have the right to protection from abuse, neglect, exploitation and discrimination. This includes the right to safe places for children to play; constructive child rearing behavior, and acknowledgment of the evolving capacities of children."


    This case is surely in contradicion with this child right.
    We could basically say all the same things about adults and human rights, but we don't. It's because most people agree that the criminal justice system, if not perfect, is a necessary evil. Adolescents need to be punished for crimes to keep them following the laws. What you seem to be saying is that minors should be for all intents and purposes immune to criminal prosecution.

    This quickly becomes troublesome even if you only mean in regards to misdemeanors. What is to discourage a 16 year old from driving 150 mph down the wrong side of the street in a residential area without a seatbelt? What's going to keep them from committing petty larceny every time they go to the store and see something they want? Some sort of law (preferably a misdemeanor) should be there to discourage teenagers from posting CP on the web and thus endangering themselves via pedophiles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Memento Mori View Post
    It is sad, isn't it?

    While I can understand this not being allowed, certainly, she shouldn't be marked as a sexual predator for the rest of her life.
    I am not certain of the events that have been taking place since this case was first brought to the public eye; however, there's always the possibility that new circumstances and facts discovered during the course of this investigation will lead the prosecution to reconsider its decision. In the event that that doesn't happen though, I certainly do feel sorry for this girl. You often hear about sexual predators on the news, but I can't really begin to imagine how it would be having to live your life with that kind of a brand.

    Quote Originally Posted by lone_Sannin View Post
    Well, it is said that the investigating is further going on, so, we don't know who the true culprit is. I'd say the true culprit should be the one who suggested it to her in the first place (she's just 14). Though, if she came up with that ingenious idea with herself, then I have to agree that she was an idiotic and insane individual herself.
    Some things I'd certainly like some insight in are the positions of the boyfriend and the girl's parents in all this. Just how old is this boy anyway, and did he have any place in suggesting these photos be made in the first place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Memento Mori View Post
    Again, he should totally go prancing around nude in... New York City, perhaps?

    And use "But I'm just expressing myself because I'm beautiful" as an excuse.

    Or maybe he should post a bunch of inappropriate pictures of himself on AF and still use that excuse.
    I think that would be trolling on an epic level. I followed one other post and it seems that Naked Devil Kid likes human bodies. I don't see what's so great about bein' nude. You don't have pockets or anything.


    They shouldn't be punished at all, at least not if the alleged CP depicts themselves. It's like being arrested for robbing yourself when you withdraw money from an ATM. It's absolutely absurd: There is no victim in the crime.
    Other than the jailbaited/(ist?) that gets busted when he faps to her image.

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    This gets a Pedobear seal of approval.

    It seems girls are getting younger and younger when it comes to really exploring their sexuality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manhattan_Project_2000 View Post
    We could basically say all the same things about adults and human rights, but we don't. It's because most people agree that the criminal justice system, if not perfect, is a necessary evil. Adolescents need to be punished for crimes to keep them following the laws. What you seem to be saying is that minors should be for all intents and purposes immune to criminal prosecution. .
    Well, there's always some exceptions & loopholes in every rule, that I agree. But, the fact is, an underage cannot be considered a full citizen unless one reaches 18 or gain citizenships and so, normal civil laws do not apply to them. They have not attained full maturity to know the proper consequences of their actions. That's why, a special sets of rights especially for the children (below 18 years age) has been introduced. However, I'm not saying that she should not be punished for her actions. What I disagree is the prosecution of an underage.

    If she is to be prosecuted then, she should be kept under strict probation until she reaches 18 while observing her progess in the society during those times ,and once she reaches 18 she could be trialed depending upon the weight of her crimes and her progress in the society in all those years. This way, it does not violate child rights.


    Quote Originally Posted by Manhattan_Project_2000 View Post
    This quickly becomes troublesome even if you only mean in regards to misdemeanors. What is to discourage a 16 year old from driving 150 mph down the wrong side of the street in a residential area without a seatbelt? What's going to keep them from committing petty larceny every time they go to the store and see something they want? Some sort of law (preferably a misdemeanor) should be there to discourage teenagers from posting CP on the web and thus endangering themselves via pedophiles.
    Well, I agree that there also many child criminals out there, especially I'd say, those who are influenced and involved in gansters. But for them too, child rights are applicable. Child rights ensures that every child (below 18 years) would get rights irrespective of who you are and where you are from. So, the most ethical approach to prosecute them according to their crimes should be, to keep them at rehabilitation centres (more like a probation) and observe their progress, and finally trial them once they 18 years. This way, it does not violate child rights and they can be prosecuted depending upon the weight of their crimes and the progress they made at the rehabilitation centres. Child rights are universal rights and there is no partiality in child rights, and morever it reflects one's society's proper morals and ethics.

    If the court really prosecutes a child (before 18 years) for the crimes committed, then the court or goevernment should indeed be sacked and strangled for they are not respecting the basic moral rights of children, and their brains must be full of dungs and fertilizers to produce such insane, mindless & immoral decisions.

    Some things I'd certainly like some insight in are the positions of the boyfriend and the girl's parents in all this. Just how old is this boy anyway, and did he have any place in suggesting these photos be made in the first place?
    Well, I've just read the first article like everyone else which was of last friday (I think) and it said the investigating was going on. Though, it would be better if the person who posted this news over here to bring new insight to this news, so it's best to ask him. But, it's quite hard to imagine that that girl of 14 years was so stupid. But, you can hear many such news quite often nowadays, so, she might be the sole culprit in the end.
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    She shouldn't even be taking nudes, let alone posting them where everyone can see. She must not have very much self-respect.

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    thats not good for the kids that r on myspace...but thats my opinion

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    Meanwhile, in Japan; CHIDOLS.

    Within this group there are several subcategories designated by a simple code in the format of U-[N] where U is short for the English word "Under" and [N] represents the maximum age. [...] The primary divisions are divided by years U-18, U-15, and U-12 but there are also more recent partitions designated as U-10, U-6, and U-3 to reflect changes in the marketplace and idol fan communities.
    Feh. I mean, in all probability these children still have their Mongolian spots. Now that makes me want to either laugh or cry.

    Anyhow. To be on topic: In all seriousness, the arrest business is a little ridiculous, but from a legal perspective, I'm guessing it was really the only way the police could get her to stop doing something that was potentially harmful to herself.

    In any case, I think using the Internet should be treated as any other potentially dangerous activity, like driving or crossing at a street light. The problem with our society is that there are too little of those; people are so padded and cushioned off from the real world that they just cannot wrap their heads around the fact that certain actions in certain situations might have damaging real-life consequences.

    The sooner a child learns this the better, and it certainly should have some idea by the age of 14. This isn't rocket science, it's a basic principle of life. If she didn't, she can blame her parents for not teaching her sooner, and learn to live the rest of her life with the ugly fact that she has pictures of her butt-naked lying on the hard drives of total strangers. Many people have to live with a lot worse. And assuming for the sake of argument that she was younger, what the hell was the child doing unsupervised anywhere near an Internet connection in the first place?
    Last edited by Datenshi; 04-01-2009 at 11:04 PM.
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    This ain't surprising anymore, this is happening everywhere. And news like this is posted everyday in where I came from. But considering her as a sex offender if convicted...hmmm...would this be too much for a 14 year old girl to handle? There are so many ways to punish younger girls.
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