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    Quote Originally Posted by miss moonlight View Post
    Attractiveness is subjective. It depends on where they are.

    If it's a case of a person stalking a woman they deem attractive, then that's one case. But oftentimes the attacker will not even see or care about how the person looks; rather that they are simply looking for a target no matter who it is.
    Rapists may be sick in the mind, but they're humans. Humans have preferences. They don't just pick out a person randomly. And attractiveness is subjective, but there are common traits that are usually considered attractive. That's why I put "generally be considered more attractive". I know there a still a few unique ones who have very broad ranges of preference.

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    But you see, moonlight you're going on assumptions. You're going on things YOU believe, not the truth. Sure, it sounds reasonable but it's SEX, sometimes violence. You think that a guy is just gonna risk 20 years in jail for a girl that no vale pa madre? No, chances are he's gonna hit a high class supermodel, not some sloppy chick who works at K-Mart.


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    Well, maybe i'm just "weird" or whatever for thinking this way, but this is how I generally see it:

    In the case of a man hunting for a woman (male rapist), he usually has a mental checklist of how he's going to pull off his crime (this is more closely related to a serial rapist who may also be a stalker, rather than that of a "I just got drunk and decided to rape" kind of rapist):

    1. is she female?
    2. is she alone?
    3. how easy will it be for me to get away with what I want to do?
    4. how hard will it be for me to break into her place of residence?
    5. if she is outside and it is dark (or dark enough so that other people are less likely to see/notice), am I strong enough to overpower her and take her to a place where she and I are secluded?
    6. fear needs to be instilled to make sure the victim will not scream out for help or escape, usually done with threats of bodily harm and/or threats of harm to people he/she loves and cares about
    7. discard; after the rapist is done, he needs to make sure that no one is going to find the victim; in a sloppy case where he simply does not care, he will leave her there immediately after he's done, escape, and not care about the possibility for any evidence left behind. Or, if he's an organized and skilled attacker (he does this regularly), he will make sure any evidence is removed (weapons, etc.) and usually make sure she's in a place that's far away from any other people, usually leaving the victim to find her own way to get help.

    In that case, i'd say that attractiveness is probably the least determining factor.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Diocletian
    But you see, moonlight you're going on assumptions. You're going on things YOU believe, not the truth. Sure, it sounds reasonable but it's SEX, sometimes violence. You think that a guy is just gonna risk 20 years in jail for a girl that no vale pa madre? No, chances are he's gonna hit a high class supermodel, not some sloppy chick who works at K-Mart.
    A man intent on raping will do anything if he thinks he can get away with it.

    Oh and, sex is not the same as rape. The two are not synonymous. Rape is rape. Sex is sex. There is a reason why they are called two completely different things; rape includes sex, but it's called "rape" for a reason; it isn't consensual sex.

    And most rapists target "high class supermodels"? where do you get this information?

    It seems that what you think, is based more on your assumptions than any facts. Or logic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miss moonlight View Post
    Oh and, sex is not the same as rape. The two are not synonymous. Rape is rape. Sex is sex. There is a reason why they are called two completely different things. Rape includes sex, but see it's called "rape" for a reason; it isn't consensual.

    And most rapists target "high class supermodels"? where do you get this information?

    It seems that what you think is based more on your assumptions than any facts. Or logic.
    Rape is a word for sex that isn't consensual.

    It's still sex.

    Just not consensual on the victim's part.

    That's like saying a home and a house aren't the same thing simply because they are two different words.

    And, Dio didn't mean they just want high class supermodels, he means that they'd rather have an attractive woman than a sloppy, fat lady.

    Not speaking for all, but some, and possibly the majority.
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    This isn't anything new.... it's called RapeX and it's been around for quite some time. A few years.

    I think it's 1) Hilarious and 2) An awesome idea.

    Men who try and rape women definitely deserve this fate. This is fabulous.

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    I agree with most of your post, and you seem more understanding.

    Quote Originally Posted by Disraeli View Post
    Rape is a word for sex that isn't consensual.

    It's still sex.
    I know, that was stated in my post also. Because rape is a crime that's a punishable offense, and consensual sex usually isn't, I just wanted to point that out to him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Disraeli View Post
    And, Dio didn't mean they just want high class supermodels, he means that they'd rather have an attractive woman than a sloppy, fat lady.
    I know, that's where I disagree with him. I was trying to drive the point home that a rapist doesn't usually discriminate to such a high degree. He simply wants to rape.

    He will rape a "sloppy, fat lady" (although those were not his exact words), if he thinks he can get away with it. In fact, he'll also rape a "sloppy, fat old lady" if he thinks he can get away with it as well. The only thing that really matters in the mind of a rapist, is if he can get away with it or not. If he thinks he can, then he will do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kishiro
    This isn't anything new.... it's called RapeX and it's been around for quite some time. A few years.

    I think it's 1) Hilarious and 2) An awesome idea.

    Men who try and rape women definitely deserve this fate. This is fabulous.
    I agree that men who have every intention to rape definitely do deserve it. My only problem with it is that it most likely will not stop rape, but further enrage the attacker to hurt the victim even more so, or even lead to the victim's death. But that's just a possibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miss moonlight View Post
    I agree with most of your post, and you seem more understanding.



    I know, that was stated in my post also. Because rape is a crime that's a punishable offense, and consensual sex usually isn't, I just wanted to point that out to him.


    I know, that's where I disagree with him. I was trying to drive the point home that a rapist doesn't usually discriminate to such a high degree. He simply wants to rape.

    He will rape a "sloppy, fat lady" (although those were not his exact words), if he thinks he can get away with it. In fact, he'll also rape a "sloppy, fat old lady" if he thinks he can get away with it as well. The only thing that really matters in the mind of a rapist, is if he can get away with it or not. If he thinks he can, then he will do it.
    I've heard that most rapists do what they do to feel superior.

    While it's true he would rape any lady around who was vulnerable, I'm simply saying that some (not all) would prefer to find one young and attractive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disraeli View Post
    I've heard that most rapists do what they do to feel superior.

    While it's true he would rape any lady around who was vulnerable, I'm simply saying that some (not all) would prefer to find one young and attractive.
    Yes, rape is most cases, is about sexual control. (Usually of an adult woman, but boys, men, and other children can be part of it too.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by miss moonlight View Post
    Well, maybe i'm just "weird" or whatever for thinking this way, but this is how I generally see it:

    In the case of a man hunting for a woman (male rapist), he usually has a mental checklist of how he's going to pull off his crime (this is more closely related to a serial rapist who may also be a stalker, rather than that of a "I just got drunk and decided to rape" kind of rapist):

    1. is she female?
    2. is she alone?
    3. how easy will it be for me to get away with what I want to do?
    4. how hard will it be for me to break into her place of residence?
    5. if she is outside and it is dark (or dark enough so that other people are less likely to see/notice), am I strong enough to overpower her and take her to a place where she and I are secluded?
    6. fear needs to be instilled to make sure the victim will not scream out for help or escape, usually done with threats of bodily harm and/or threats of harm to people he/she loves and cares about
    7. discard; after the rapist is done, he needs to make sure that no one is going to find the victim; in a sloppy case where he simply does not care, he will leave her there immediately after he's done, escape, and not care about the possibility for any evidence left behind. Or, if he's an organized and skilled attacker (he does this regularly), he will make sure any evidence is removed (weapons, etc.) and usually make sure she's in a place that's far away from any other people, usually leaving the victim to find her own way to get help.

    In that case, i'd say that attractiveness is probably the least determining factor.
    Except that a) if he's a stalker then there's a personal connection and looks are irrelevant as a result of that(though looks might be why the stalker developed that personal connection) and not some random rapist psychology of taking whatever comes along, and b) if it's a "serial rapist" who doesn't even bother to look at who he's raping then it's a compulsion and instead of being mutilated he needs to be placed in a straitjacket. I'd be willing to bet the most common kind of rape would be something along the lines of date rape, in which case I'd think looks play a pretty huge part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanosuke23
    Except that a) if he's a stalker then there's a personal connection and looks are irrelevant as a result of that(though looks might be why the stalker developed that personal connection) and not some random rapist psychology of taking whatever comes along, and b) if it's a "serial rapist" who doesn't even bother to look at who he's raping then it's a compulsion and instead of being mutilated he needs to be placed in a straitjacket. I'd be willing to bet the most common kind of rape would be something along the lines of date rape, in which case I'd think looks play a pretty huge part.
    Hmm. Well, I think that both rapists and stalkers, and rapist-stalkers of the same breed, would both need to be put in straitjackets. As much as I want to say that the the rapist "deserves" to be mutilated with the device if they have the intention to rape, I really can't agree with it from a legal or ethical standpoint.

    They do deserve what they get, however I believe jail time is more fitting (and alot more legal) than capturing their junk into some sort of venus fly-trap condom.

    Date rape, I suppose (as well as many other similar situations), is a case where appearance would be one of the main the determining factors (depending on what the rapist finds attractive), and his issues related to his own motivations.
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    The person who invented this is a sick (insert random name here). If it's come down to vaginal barb wire, it has indeed come too far. Isn't the best protection a bunch of friends with you? I never allow my sister without at least five of her closest friends whom I trust. I don't care if the one friend is cute, if he has shady eyes, I come running with the machete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi770 View Post
    The person who invented this is a sick (insert random name here). If it's come down to vaginal barb wire, it has indeed come too far. Isn't the best protection a bunch of friends with you?
    You've obviously never been to South Africa.



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    I don't agree with the device because of the danger of using it (Plus other legal reasons). But I can see why it was created, even if it fails in actually preventing rapes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cantelope View Post
    You've obviously never been to South Africa.
    Yep, I've never been there. That's why I can only give advice to women here in the U.S. or any other major country. I have only the foggiest idea about what goes on over there.
    I now know what hell sounds like; I recommend a tactical nuclear strike on my position. Tell my family I love them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi770 View Post
    Yep, I've never been there. That's why I can only give advice to women here in the U.S. or any other major country. I have only the foggiest idea about what goes on over there.
    This product is more than likely targetted to women of South Africa.
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    It could be smuggled here as someone stated before. I hate to imagine what would happen if some spiteful wife got hold of this thing.
    I now know what hell sounds like; I recommend a tactical nuclear strike on my position. Tell my family I love them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi770 View Post
    It could be smuggled here as someone stated before. I hate to imagine what would happen if some spiteful wife got hold of this thing.
    True, and I'm not totally for the product. There's always the chance an angry girlfriend or that spiteful wife will get it.

    I'm just saying, that's probably who the product is generally for. The women of South Africa who probably view rape as just an everyday part of life.
    On this day of days, most epic and prideful, you were born 15 whole American years ago!
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    Many of our items are used for personal and selfish reasons: this particular item will no doubt be one of them, most likely for revenge purposes.

    I feel sorry for the boy that is secretly caught kissing and touching another female- by his girlfriend. I feel even more sorry for him if she also knows that these things exist. All I can really say to that is: he should have known better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Memento Mori View Post
    True, and I'm not totally for the product. There's always the chance an angry girlfriend or that spiteful wife will get it.

    I'm just saying, that's probably who the product is generally for. The women of South Africa who probably view rape as just an everyday part of life.
    But, as someone stated before, it'll turn rapists to murderers because once their junk gets mangled they'll be royally pissed off.
    I now know what hell sounds like; I recommend a tactical nuclear strike on my position. Tell my family I love them.

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    Man, we should probably ban the sale of all knives and other sharp, pointy objects because what if a spiteful wife gets a hold of it and castrates her unfaithful husband and/or murders him?!

    Unreasonable people will do unreasonable things no matter what tools are available to them.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Cantelope View Post
    Man, we should probably ban the sale of all knives and other sharp, pointy objects because what if a spiteful wife gets a hold of it and castrates her unfaithful husband and/or murders him?!

    Unreasonable people will do unreasonable things no matter what tools are available to them.
    Bad analogy because the only conceivable use for this product is mutilating genitalia.
    Ehhh, I dunno if I'll stick around. We'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi770 View Post
    But, as someone stated before, it'll turn rapists to murderers because once their junk gets mangled they'll be royally pissed off.
    Have you read nothing? The shock of the pain will cause the rapist unable to react and give the victim a chance to escape. I suggest reading this.

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