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    Default The Ultimate Defense

    Against the copyright issues against the record makers and the artist. Also youtube, veoh, etc.
    I can make my AMVs and they aren't infringing on any copyright law. Because:

    If you use the copied work in a way that substitutes for the original in the market, it's unlikely to be a fair use; uses that serve a different audience or purpose are more likely fair.
    Meaning that if I use it the same way as the artist wanted it used as I am stepping over copyright, but if I am using it in a different way for a different audience it goes under fair use and it doesn't reflect to have any copyright issues.

    I got this from this here: http://www.eff.org/issues/bloggers/legal/liability/IP

    What do you guys think?
    What are your thoughts on fair use and copyright law?


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    Are we younger children even supposed to understand all of this copyright stuff? I may be smart, but I'm not that smart yet. Key word: yet.



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    You're only quoting part of the requirements for fair use. If you use a full song in your AMV, you are not just using a segment of their work, but a full work which you slap a video onto, which is really stretching the definition A LOT.

    Besides, fair use is not a right. The copyright owners generally look between their fingers with regards to fair use (because they basically don't have anything to loose), and courts are hesitant to take copyright cases that fall under fair use, but with a good lawyer and lots of money, there are no warranties.

    This video explains the issue pretty well:
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    No, you're still in violation of copyright laws. It's not just the video, but the audio being used.

    Nice self-righteous attempt at getting away with it.

    YouTube doesn't remove AMVs unless requested to, anyway.

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    Of course, if you want this silly situation to change, you can always get political and join or form a local pirate party.

    It just might make a difference.



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    Quote Originally Posted by This name is a lie View Post
    Of course, if you want this silly situation to change, you can always get political and join or form a local pirate party.

    It just might make a difference.
    Not unless they get a bunch of money to buy lobbyists.

    Also: See This Name is a lie and Xero XIII's posts.
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    Didn't we go over this already, children? You're not even the one the record industry cares about when it comes to copyright issues and Youtube. They care about Google and their delicious ad revenue.

    You seriously think they give a crap about you sticking their music over some random cartoon you found? No, they care about the fact that the site you're putting it on is making money by charging companies to advertise to the people watching the random cartoon you stuck their music over.
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    This is the ultimate defense.

    "Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, Chef's attorney would certainly want you to believe that his client wrote "Stinky Britches" ten years ago. And they make a good case. Hell, I almost felt pity myself! But, ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, I have one final thing I want you to consider. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it; that does not make sense!

    Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a lawyer defending a major record company, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're in that jury room deliberatin' and conjugatin' the Emancipation Proclamation, does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests."

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    Quote Originally Posted by SGI View Post
    This is the ultimate defense.

    "Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, Chef's attorney would certainly want you to believe that his client wrote "Stinky Britches" ten years ago. And they make a good case. Hell, I almost felt pity myself! But, ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, I have one final thing I want you to consider. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it; that does not make sense!

    Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a lawyer defending a major record company, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're in that jury room deliberatin' and conjugatin' the Emancipation Proclamation, does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests."
    The funniest part about the Chewbacca Defense is that it's become an accepted legal term in some legal circles. Also, I agree with SGI. You need to make the various companies aware that you can and will instruct your lawyer to talk about Chewbacca if it comes to a trial. They'll probably be so intimidated they won't even file a DMCA against you for stealing Linkin Park songs and attaching them to Bleach clips (or whatever).
    Ehhh, I dunno if I'll stick around. We'll see.

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