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    hi, ive been asking myself this question a lot lately. Are human just animal driven and programmed by their instinct and hormone or do we really have freedom over our action?
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    well i too feel very wierd about this. I don't understand who has given us the right to make such huge houses and live there and just own land and rule over the world and just like even take work from the animals i sometimes feel really bad about this and then all of us are made by the same God so has he made us the superior ones in the world? There is an advertisement in my country in which there's a donkey ruling over a man, it's shown that they're in stoneage and then the man finds a mouthfreshner and he eats it(eliminate this part) and then that man is shown developing like he goes and hunts, invents fire and the wheel and then he comes back to the donkey and just takes work from him so maybe this is the truth we humans have developed and those animals couldn't and thus we have the superior power but then too i feel really uhmmmmmmm..........what to say i can't express myself further.
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    We have freedom of thought but if you think we aren't considerably controlled by instincts and hormones, you're living in a huge disconnect from reality. Take one look at the retards spending every friday night "getting their drink on" and then going from bar/nightclub to bar/nightclub trying to get laid (the few times I went with friends, when I watched the people there I felt like I hit a sociological gold mine of information). Look around and notice that, damn man, it just don't seem like a coincidence that everyone ends up paired with the opposite sex.

    We got freedom over our action yes from our intelligence, but we're still an animal with animal this and that regardless of the brain we have.

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    everything you think is random is in fact caused by something, but you can't understand how. every action has its cause, so technically, there's no such thing as free will. now if you try to prove me wrong by doing something that makes no sense whatsoever, you'll fail, because it would be caused by me. the difference between more and less intelligent life is not the randomness of their actions, but the obviousness of their causes.


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    I belive that humans are still animals. We just don't think that way. Its the way we were created.
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    I believe we are all animals. Men, with their needs for doing the bedroom dance. Women, with fighting (literally) for the top position in whatever. Let's just say school for that example. All we are is a very technologically advanced species of monkey. No offense to all those who actually like him, but look at George w. Bush. Perfect example of how we are descendants of monkeys. He looks like one, too.



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    I'd like to further say it's more than a belief that were animals, human beings are animals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sagat View Post
    We have freedom of thought but if you think we aren't considerably controlled by instincts and hormones, you're living in a huge disconnect from reality. Take one look at the retards spending every friday night "getting their drink on" and then going from bar/nightclub to bar/nightclub trying to get laid (the few times I went with friends, when I watched the people there I felt like I hit a sociological gold mine of information). Look around and notice that, damn man, it just don't seem like a coincidence that everyone ends up paired with the opposite sex.

    We got freedom over our action yes from our intelligence, but we're still an animal with animal this and that regardless of the brain we have.
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    We usually can do whatever we want so people just abuse it. So freedom. Unless you're one of those abusers of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    Protip: Humanity is a species, and not a race.
    will write that down... sorry im french so sometime im not aware of those language technicality...

    the idea behind my mind when i started this tread was mostly because ive been looking how people behave a lot lately and i started seeing a lot of correspondence with other socialized species like the wolf or the chimp (btw i hate to think about myself as a chimp but the eveidence are there tough)... i mean there is some sort of alpha and beta and even omega type of person in this world... what is the purpose for a man to actually get involved in a fist fight or to intimidate others if not to prove his supperiority or for an inteligent person to use sarcasm to push less inteligent people down... you can extrapolate a lot with those two exemple... i sometime feel there is some people who are destined to a better future then other ordinary people... another exemple of what i mean is in people relationship especially those with the other sex... why do we feel the need to have a boyfriend or a girlfriend why do we need to have sex and/or affection.... why do we fall in love, why do we love, like or dislike stuff.... is the only purpose to procreate then die... i tried to just deny attraction or whatever you call it and its just not doing it... at the exact moment where im telling myself NO, NOT GOING TO HAPPEN! i cant do anyrthing but to do the exact oposite
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    I believe that we have freedom over our actions. We have freedom to choose whether to be vicious or kind. We have the ability to distinguish right from wrong. I wish people would choose to be kind more often. It would make a much better world. Unfortunately alot of people do not assert control over actions and urges.
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    we're quite literally just an animal species that discovered if we used sharpened rocks we are able to kill things much faster, and if we planted a fruit or vegtable in the ground, more of that same plant would grow...

    everything invented or discovered after that, is because of those two miraculous discoveries... if we didnt learn how to use basic, well cutting edge back then ^_^, tools, we wouldnt have nearly the same population we would today...


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    Quote Originally Posted by ichimoku_fanboy View Post
    we're quite literally just an animal species that discovered if we used sharpened rocks we are able to kill things much faster, and if we planted a fruit or vegtable in the ground, more of that same plant would grow...

    everything invented or discovered after that, is because of those two miraculous discoveries... if we didnt learn how to use basic, well cutting edge back then ^_^, tools, we wouldnt have nearly the same population we would today...
    Kind of a pointless observation, because if we couldn't come up with sharp stones we sure as hell wouldn't be able to come up with anything more advanced. Tool use is not particularly rare among birds and mammals. I mean, even Otters use rocks to break things open.
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    Because we created the concept of freedom, it exists. We have our instincts and our pre-programmed personality traits, but our higher mind allows us to override them with new information.
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    If we speak of soil in Europe today, we can primarily have in mind only Russia and her vassal border states.
    Here Fate itself seems desirous of giving us a sign. By handing P ussia to Bolshevism, it robbed the Russian nation of that intelligentsia which previously brought about and guaranteed its existence as a state. For the organization of a Russian state formation was not the result of the political abilities of the Slavs in Russia, but only a wonderful example of the state-forming efficacity of the German element in an inferior race. Numerous mighty empires on earth have been created in this way. Lower nations led by Germanic organizers and overlords have more than once grown to be mighty state formations and have endured as long as the racial nudeus of the creative state race maintained itself. For centuries Russia drew nourishment from this Germanic nucleus of its upper leading strata. Today it can be regarded as almost totally exterminated and extinguished. It has been replaced by the Jew. Impossible as it is for the Russian by himself to shake off the yoke of the Jew by his own resources, it is equally impossible for the Jew to maintain the mighty empire forever. He himself is no element of organization, but a ferment of decomposition. The Persian I empire in the east is ripe for collapse. And the end of Jewish rule in Russia will also be the end of Russia as a state. We have been chosen by Fate as witnesses of a catastrophe which will be the mightiest confirmation of the soundness of the folkish theory.

    Our task, the mission of the National Socialist movement, is to bring our own people to such political insight that they will not see their goal for the future in the breath-taking sensation of a new Alexander's conquest, but in the industrious work of the German plow, to which the sword need only give soil. . . .
    Never forget that the rulers of present-day Russia are common blood-stained criminals; that they are the scum of humanity which, favored by circumstances, overran a great state in a tragic hour, slaughtered and wiped out thousands of her leading ir.telligentsia in wild blood lust, and now for almost ten years have been carrying on the most cruel and tyrannical regime of all time. Furthermore, do not forget that these rulers belong to a race which combines, in a rare mixture, bestial cruelty and an inconceivable gift for lying, and which today more than ever is conscious of a mission to impose its bloody oppression on the whole world. Do not forget that the international Jew who completely dominates Russia today regards Germany, not as an ally, but as a state destined to the same fate. And you do not make pacts with anyone whose sole interest is the destruction of his partner. Above all, you do not make them with elements to whom no pact would be sacred, since they do not live in this world as representatives of honor and sincerity, but as champions of deceit, lies, theft, plunder, and rapine. If a man believes that he can enter into profitable connections with parasites, he is like a tree trying to conclude for its own profit an agreement with a mistletoe.

    2. The danger to which Russia succumbed is always present for Germany. Only a bourgeois simpleton is capable of imagining that Bolshevism has been exorcised. With his superficial thinking he has no idea that this is an instinctive process; that is, the striving of the Jewish people for world domination, a process which is just as natural as the urge of the Anglo-Saxon to seize domination of the earth. And just as the Anglo-Saxon pursues this course in his own way and carries on the fight with his own weapons, likewise the Jew. He goes his way, the way of sneaking in among the nations and boring from within, and he fights with his weapons, with lies and slander, poison and corruption, intensifying the struggle to the point of bloodily exterminating his hated foes. In Russian Bolshevism we must see the attempt undertaken by the Jews in the twentieth century to achieve world domination. Just as in other epochs they strove to reach the same goal by other, though inwardly related processes. Their endeavor lies profoundly rooted in their essential nature. No more than another nation renounces of its own accord the pursuit of its impulse for the expansion of its power and way of life, but is compelled by outward circumstances or else succumbs to impotence due to the symptoms of old age, does the Jew break off his road to world dictatorship out of voluntary renunciation, or because he represses his eternal urge. He, too, will either be thrown back in his course by forces lying outside himself, or all his striving for world domination will be ended by his own dying out. But the impotence of nations, their own death from old age, arises from the abandonment of their blood purity. And this is a thing that the Jew preserves better than any other people on earth. And so he advances on his fatal road until another force comes forth to oppose him, and in a mighty struggle hurls the heaven-stormer back to Lucifer.

    Germany is today the next great war aim of Bolshevism. It requires all the force of a young missionary idea to raise our people up again, to free them from the snares of this international serpent, and to stop the inner contamination of our blood, in order that the forces of the nation thus set free can be thrown in to safeguard our nationality, and thus can prevent a repetition of the recent catastrophes down to the most distant future. If we pursue this aim, it is sheer lunacy to ally ourselves with a power whose master is the mortal enemy of our future. How can we expect to free our own people from the fetters of this poisonous embrace if we walk right into it? How shall we explain Bolshevism to the German worker as an accursed crime against humanity if we ally ourselves with the organizations of this spawn of hell, thus recognizing it in the larger sense? By what right shall we condemn a member of the broad masses for his sympathy with an outlook if the very leaders of the state choose the representatives of this outlook for allies?

    The fight against Jewish world Bolshevization requires a clear attitude toward Soviet Russia. thou cannot drive out the Devil with Beelsebub.
    If today even folkish circles rave about an alliance with Russia, they should just look around them in Germany and see whose support they find in their efforts. Or have folkish men lately begun to view an activity as beneficial to the German people which is recommended and promoted by the international Marxist press? Since when do folkish men fight with armor held out to them by a Jewish squire?

    There is one main charge that could be raised against the old German Reich with regard to its alliance policy: not, however, that it failed to maintain good relations with Russia, but only that it ruined its relations with everyone by continuous shilly-shallying, in the pathological weakness of trying to preserve world peace at any price.

    I openly confess that even in the pre-War period I would have thought it sounder if Germany, renouncing her senseless colonial policy and renouncing her merchant marine and war fleet, had concluded an alliance with England against Russia, thus passing from a feeble global policy to a determined European policy of territorial acquisition on the continent.

    I have not forgotten the insolent threat which the pan-Slavic Russia of that time dared to address to Germany; I have not forgotten the constant practice mobilizations, whose sole purpose was an affront to Germany; I cannot forget the mood of public opinion in Russia, which outdid itself in hateful outbursts against our people and our Reich; I cannot forget the big Russian newspapers, which were always more enthusiastic about France than about us.

    But in spite of all that, before the War there would still have been a second way: we could have propped ourselves on Russia and turned against England.

    Today conditions are different. If before the War we could have choked down every possible sentiment and gone with Russia, today it is no longer possible. The hand of the world clock has moved forward since then, and is loudly striking the hour in which the destiny of our nation must be decided in one way or another. The process of consolidation in which the great states of the earth are involved at the moment is for us the last warning signal to stop and search our hearts, to lead our people out of the dream world back to hard reality, and show them the way to the future which alone will lead the old Reich to a new golden age. . . .



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    Where did you get this? I need it for a project.

    Side note: A superior race does make sense when racism is involved.

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    Because we created the concept of freedom, it exists. We have our instincts and our pre-programmed personality traits, but our higher mind allows us to override them with new information.
    Both are true to a certain extent.
    That's goofy argumentation. We also created the concept of Russel's Teapot, but it doesn't exist. If you want to prove Freedom exists you have to swipe ideas from the Rationalists and ignore the last 200 years of philosophy and the 100 years of psychology.
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    I hate to say it, but I actually agree with Sagat here. The base of our lives and decisions derives from our basic animalistic instinct to survive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shedra View Post
    Because we created the concept of freedom, it exists. We have our instincts and our pre-programmed personality traits, but our higher mind allows us to override them with new information.
    Both are true to a certain extent.
    We did not create the concept of freedom. It was always there, in the simple nothingness of nature. Are you referring to democracy, then? That was created to avoid the state of nature which is a frightening thing - human beings left on their own not worrying about consequence and living in utter lawlessness. Thus, democracy was created, not out of the goodness of the hearts of man, but to protect us from man, and to funnel our self-interest and greed into productive ends. There is nothing romantic, poetic, or even just about it.

    Additionally, although it is misanthropic to say, if this is the collective result of our "higher minds" I am pretty damn disappointed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Koris View Post
    I hate to say it, but I actually agree with Sagat here. The base of our lives and decisions derives from our basic animalistic instinct to survive.
    It's okay...it's okay ... ssshh... just close your eyes and accept my wisdom into your heart ......

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