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    Unhappy What is the date AD of Code Geass?

    The date is 2017 and 2018 of the Britannian calendar. If they date from the birth of Christ this could be 2017 and 2018 AD, but their chronologists might have selected a different year for the birth of Christ than ours did. I read some where that the Britons selected a high king after defeating a Roman invasion in the alternate history of their world. That could have been the first year of the Britannian calendar.
    If that was one of Caesar's invasions in 55 or 54 BC, 2017 be about 1962 or 1963 and 2018 would be about 1963 or 1964 AD. If that was the invasion of Claudius in 43 AD, 2017 would be about 2060 and 2018 would be about 2061.
    Of course the first year of the Britannian calendar might haave been at some other moment in history.

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    And seriously...no offence, but...what's the point of finding out the exact date of the Code Geass Series in real life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightL View Post
    And seriously...no offence, but...what's the point of finding out the exact date of the Code Geass Series in real life?
    What is the point of buying the Star Trek Chronology? Many thousands of star Trek fans bought it.

    Knowing the date AD would help in working out the fictional history of the Code Geass world for fan fiction, etc. The Britannian imperial family is supposed to be the successor of the high king selected by the Britons at the time of a Roman invasion., So being interested in genealogy I am thinking of making a family tree covering 2000 years of history.
    Some Welsh families have the longest pedigrees in the British islands, going back reliably to 1000 Ad or 900 AD or 800 AD and going back with less certainty to Beli Mawr who would have lived around 100 BC. So I can make Emperor Charles and his family descended in a number of fictional generations from the Welsh family of Wynn of Gwydyr the head of which was considered the rightful heir of the kings of Gwynedd who claimed to be the rightful high kings of Britain. We can supposed that a member of the house of Wynn became an "English" nobleman and his descendants married descendants of the English royal family, so that when the Fictional Queen Elizabeth III was overthrown about 1805 a descendant of the house of Wynn was one of those closest in line to the throne and made himself king, changing the name from England to Britannia since he was the heir of the rightful high kings of Britain before the Saxon invasions. Knowing the date helps with the number of fictional generations. [/quote]
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    Yeah...err...it really helps. </sarcasm>
    Anyways, I see you're really into Code Geass / R2. One of the biggest fans I've ever seen, I guess. Good luck with your experimentations and "researchations" xD!

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    Quote Originally Posted by proEuphie View Post
    What is the point of buying the Star Trek Chronology? Many thousands of star Trek fans bought it.

    Knowing the date AD would help in working out the fictional history of the Code Geass world for fan fiction, etc. The Britannian imperial family is supposed to be the successor of the high king selected by the Britons at the time of a Roman invasion., So being interested in genealogy I am thinking of making a family tree covering 2000 years of history.
    Some Welsh families have the longest pedigrees in the British islands, going back reliably to 1000 Ad or 900 AD or 800 AD and going back with less certainty to Beli Mawr who would have lived around 100 BC. So I can make Emperor Charles and his family descended in a number of fictional generations from the Welsh family of Wynn of Gwydyr the head of which was considered the rightful heir of the kings of Gwynedd who claimed to be the rightful high kings of Britain. We can supposed that a member of the house of Wynn became an "English" nobleman and his descendants married descendants of the English royal family, so that when the Fictional Queen Elizabeth III was overthrown about 1805 a descendant of the house of Wynn was one of those closest in line to the throne and made himself king, changing the name from England to Britannia since he was the heir of the rightful high kings of Britain before the Saxon invasions. Knowing the date helps with the number of fictional generations.
    The thing about Star Trek is it does indeed have a chronology going back thousands and thousands of years. The series itself is decades old, with many spinoffs and several movies (a new one is coming out). There is so much that occurs in the Star Trek universe that learning about it would be quite interesting.

    Code Geass, on the other hand, has no such history behind it. While the Britannians have a long history, there is only so much of it that we actually know and can actually trace. The Britannian calender starts when Caesar tried to invade Britain, but was defeated by the Celtic king Eowyn, who then becomes the first member of the Royal Britannian line. There are some events that can be traced (ie discovery of Sakuradite, America's fall during the rebellion, Queen Elizabeth III's retreat to Edinburgh, the founding of Pendragon, etc), however, lineage is something that is not very tracable in the Code Geass universe since there is only so much that we actually know.

    For example, we know that Charles zi Britannia has 108 consorts. Whether or not he has children with each of these consorts is not known. We don't even know who these consorts ARE (save for Marianne vi Britannia, Gabriella la Britannia and Arianne eu Britannia), so that would impede your family tree greatly. We don't even know who Cornelia and Euphemia's mother is (other than the obvious fact that her name was "------li Britannia). We only know the line of succession in order only up to five levels:
    1. Prince Odysseus eu Britannia (First Prince)
    Princess Guinevere su Britannia (First Princess)
    2. Prince Schneizel el Britannia (Second Prince)
    Princess Cornelia li Britannia (Second Princess)
    3. Prince Clovis la Britannia (Third Prince)
    Princess Euphemia li Britannia (Third Princess)
    4. Prince Cassius le Britannia (presumably Fourth Prince due to his age but could be the Fifth Prince due to his sister)
    5. Princess Carine le Britannia (Fifth Princess)

    The line then skips over to Lelouch and Nunally, with them being the Eleventh Prince and the Eleventh Princess respectively. There is no mention of the people who fill this gap. Plus, you would need to keep in mind how the order of succession works. For example, Lelouch was 17th in line for the throne, while Nunnally was only 87th in line, bearing in mind that they share the same station. That means that there are AT LEAST 87 people in line for the throne. We only know about ten.
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    In addition to what wolfgirl said, you're also making the assumption that Code Geass is a series which occurs in our "world". For all we know, it might as well be a fictional setting only partially based upon the "real-world timeline".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xero XIII View Post
    In addition to what wolfgirl said, you're also making the assumption that Code Geass is a series which occurs in our "world". For all we know, it might as well be a fictional setting only partially based upon the "real-world timeline".
    Well, yes and no. Code Geass does take place in "our world", in that Code Geass does take place on Earth. However, their timeline diverges from ours at 55 B.C (1 a.t.b) during the invasion of the Roman Empire. Instead of being taken over, the Britons are able to resist, starting the line of Britannia (ironically, the Britons call their nation Britannia, the name that was given to them by the Romans in our timeline).
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfgirl90 View Post
    Well, yes and no. Code Geass does take place in "our world", in that Code Geass does take place on Earth. However, their timeline diverges from ours at 55 B.C (1 a.t.b) during the invasion of the Roman Empire. Instead of being taken over, the Britons are able to resist, starting the line of Britannia (ironically, the Britons call their nation Britannia, the name that was given to them by the Romans in our timeline).
    If Wolf girl is right about the first year n the brit. calendar being 55 BC then season one is about 1962 and season two about 1963, I think.
    Ceaser's invasions in 55 and 54 BC were failures in our history, too. But he mostly intended them as spectacular stunts to show what a great general he was. So the divergence was not the failure but the selection of a high king and the start of the Britannian empire.
    Star Trek is supposed to take place in our future but I have noticed many historical references which are different from our actual history. So Star Trek should actually be in a alternate universe. But there are many accurate historical references too. The accurate and inaccurate historical references alternate in the chronology. So it is as if the two two universes separate and some force pushes them back together for a while, they separate again, and rejoin, etc. This is a result of all the different writers who worked on the show.
    Even though only a few people contributed to the plot of Code geass, it does the same thing. Its history supposedly diverged from ours in 55 BC, yet the American Revolution began much as it did in ours. And Benjamin Franklin supposedly lived. But it would be impossible for him to be born in two separate alternate universes which separated more than 1,760 years earlier. Writing plausible science fiction can be hard.
    So I could suppose that as with Star Trek, some mysterious force makes the histories of the two universes separate and then rejoin, separate and then rejoin. Which would make it a little less silly to give the Britannian royal family the genealogy of a real Welsh family from our history. I would just have to make up a mere three or four hundred years of recent family history (child's play for a fan of fictional genealogy) as the more or less rightful heirs of the ancient Britons intermarry with English nobility and English royalty and after a few generations claim the throne and change the came of the country to Britannia. Then attach that genealogy to the house of Wynn or some other real family with a claim to the throne of Gwynedd to form a genealogy going back two thousand years.
    It is well known that the Tudors were an old Welsh family, supposedly going back to Coel Hen about 400 AD, though they never want so far as to change the name of the country from England to Britannia. And the Stuarts were descended from a Breton noble whose ancestors settled Brittany from Britain during the dark ages and did tend to popularize the name of Britain. One historian want so far as to end the section on English history and start one on British history in 1460 when Edward IV (of York) seized the throne, since Edward was descended through the Mortimers from a daughter of Llewelllyn the Great. So it would be perfectly possible for a heir of Britain to gain the English throne and change the name back to Britannia. [/quote]
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    Quote Originally Posted by proEuphie View Post
    If Wolf girl is right about the first year n the brit. calendar being 55 BC then season one is about 1962 and season two about 1963, I think.
    Ceaser's invasions in 55 and 54 BC were failures in our history, too. But he mostly intended them as spectacular stunts to show what a great general he was. So the divergence was not the failure but the selection of a high king and the start of the Britannian empire.
    Star Trek is supposed to take place in our future but I have noticed many historical references which are different from our actual history. So Star Trek should actually be in a alternate universe. But there are many accurate historical references too. The accurate and inaccurate historical references alternate in the chronology. So it is as if the two two universes separate and some force pushes them back together for a while, they separate again, and rejoin, etc. This is a result of all the different writers who worked on the show.
    Even though only a few people contributed to the plot of Code geass, it does the same thing. Its history supposedly diverged from ours in 55 BC, yet the American Revolution began much as it did in ours. And Benjamin Franklin supposedly lived. But it would be impossible for him to be born in two separate alternate universes which separated more than 1,760 years earlier. Writing plausible science fiction can be hard.
    So I could suppose that as with Star Trek, some mysterious force makes the histories of the two universes separate and then rejoin, separate and then rejoin. Which would make it a little less silly to give the Britannian royal family the genealogy of a real Welsh family from our history. I would just have to make up a mere three or four hundred years of recent family history (child's play for a fan of fictional genealogy) as the more or less rightful heirs of the ancient Britons intermarry with English nobility and English royalty and after a few generations claim the throne and change the came of the country to Britannia. Then attach that genealogy to the house of Wynn or some other real family with a claim to the throne of Gwynedd to form a genealogy going back two thousand years.
    It is well known that the Tudors were an old Welsh family, supposedly going back to Coel Hen about 400 AD, though they never want so far as to change the name of the country from England to Britannia. And the Stuarts were descended from a Breton noble whose ancestors settled Brittany from Britain during the dark ages and did tend to popularize the name of Britain. One historian want so far as to end the section on English history and start one on British history in 1460 when Edward IV (of York) seized the throne, since Edward was descended through the Mortimers from a daughter of Llewelllyn the Great. So it would be perfectly possible for a heir of Britain to gain the English throne and change the name back to Britannia.
    You a lot about British history. Unfortunately, there is only so much you can do without making assumptions. You can make a genealogy of the Britannian Royal Family, but you could as much wrong as you could be right. The nation was called Britannia from the get-go, so a name change did not happen. And while the Stuarts played a prominant role in our timeline, the Stuarts only played a small role in the Code Geass universe, since the nations never split (they were always known as Britannia). Events such as the War of the Roses may not have even happened. We do know that the Tudors continued to rule after Elizabeth I because, in the Code Geass universe, she gave birth to a son, Henry IX (there is a Golden Age of the Tudor Dynasty rather than the fall of it).

    The American Revolution (known as Washington's Rebellion in the Code Geass universe) did happen in Code Geass and Benjamin Franklin did live. During that time, the Duke of Britannia finds out about Franklin's plans to appeal to the French for help during the rebellion. In exchange for information about the colonies and their defences, Franklin would recieve a title and territory. Franklin accepted. Benjamin Franklin became the Earl of Britannia, George Washington was killed at Yorktown and America lost its chance at independance. Because Britannia did not lose their colonies during the Age of Revolution, they never went out to Asia and the other Pacific countries to form new colonies (which is why Austrailia is independent in the Code Geass universe).

    Another issue (and this is big) is that Britannia LOST the Battle of Trafalger, which was a critical battle. When the British won in our timeline, that cemented their place as the top navel power and no one dared messed with them again. However, in the Code Geass universe, Britannia lost that battle. Britannia lost all of the United Kingdom to Napoleon. Napoleon then went on to conquer the rest of Europe, all of Russia and established rule in Africa. The United Kingdom was then added to the Euro Universe, a nation that came after the Age of Revolution. Queen Elizabeth III (along with some followers) runs to Edinburgh, where she is arrested and forced to step down (this is known as the Humiliation of Edinburgh). Her followers help her get to the mainland and establish the Britannian captial of Pendragon. She then nominates one of her followers (who was also apparently her lover), Ricardo Von Britannia, as succesor to the throne. The Royal Britannian line keeps going after that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfgirl90 View Post
    You a lot about British history. Unfortunately, there is only so much you can do without making assumptions. You can make a genealogy of the Britannian Royal Family, but you could as much wrong as you could be right. The nation was called Britannia from the get-go, so a name change did not happen. And while the Stuarts played a prominant role in our timeline, the Stuarts only played a small role in the Code Geass universe, since the nations never split (they were always known as Britannia). Events such as the War of the Roses may not have even happened. We do know that the Tudors continued to rule after Elizabeth I because, in the Code Geass universe, she gave birth to a son, Henry IX (there is a Golden Age of the Tudor Dynasty rather than the fall of it).

    The American Revolution (known as Washington's Rebellion in the Code Geass universe) did happen in Code Geass and Benjamin Franklin did live. During that time, the Duke of Britannia finds out about Franklin's plans to appeal to the French for help during the rebellion. In exchange for information about the colonies and their defences, Franklin would recieve a title and territory. Franklin accepted. Benjamin Franklin became the Earl of Britannia, George Washington was killed at Yorktown and America lost its chance at independance. Because Britannia did not lose their colonies during the Age of Revolution, they never went out to Asia and the other Pacific countries to form new colonies (which is why Austrailia is independent in the Code Geass universe).

    Another issue (and this is big) is that Britannia LOST the Battle of Trafalger, which was a critical battle. When the British won in our timeline, that cemented their place as the top navel power and no one dared messed with them again. However, in the Code Geass universe, Britannia lost that battle. Britannia lost all of the United Kingdom to Napoleon. Napoleon then went on to conquer the rest of Europe, all of Russia and established rule in Africa. The United Kingdom was then added to the Euro Universe, a nation that came after the Age of Revolution. Queen Elizabeth III (along with some followers) runs to Edinburgh, where she is arrested and forced to step down (this is known as the Humiliation of Edinburgh). Her followers help her get to the mainland and establish the Britannian captial of Pendragon. She then nominates one of her followers (who was also apparently her lover), Ricardo Von Britannia, as succesor to the throne. The Royal Britannian line keeps going after that.
    As I said before, it is really odd that the two timelines supposed diverge in 55 BC and yet the American Revolution with a George Washington and Benjamin Franklin happened 1800 years later.
    Do Britannians speak Britannian, a language derived from ancient British like our Welsh and Breton and the extinct Cornish, or some Britannian dialect of English? Does anybody know?
    If the island was always called Britannia then the Anglo-Saxon invaders must have lost and the English language would never have developed, and the Britannians would speak Britannian, a mainly Celtic language descended from ancient British.
    If Britannians speak English then the Anglo-Saxons must have conquered England from the British. And ages later the rightful heir of the British high-kings must have become king of England and changed the name from England back to Britannia, and ordered that the history books list the British high-kings and their heirs as the rightful rulers of Britain instead of the English kings. Perhaps it was Ricardo Von Britannia. [/quote]
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    If the Britannians spoke a Celtic language most of their names would look and sound like Celtic names, especially Welsh and Breton names. But a lot of their names seem like English names. Therefore Britannians probably speak some form of English.
    If Britannians speak English the Anglo-Saxon invasions, settlements,and conquests probably took place more or less as in our world and a kingdom of England probably developed as in our world.
    In our history the Stuart dynasty is descended from a Breton nobleman at the time of William the conqueror, whose ancestors would have come from Britain during the Dark Ages.
    English King Edward IV (d. 1483) was descended from a daughter of Llwellyn the Great (d. 1240) the ruler of Gwynedd and thus the rightful high king of Britain.
    The Tudor dynasty of England (ruled 1485 to 1603) was an old Welsh family descended from an official of Llwellyn the Great and from Coel Hen (fl. c. 400).
    Thus in the alternate history of Code Geass it would be perfectly possible for the rightful High King of Britain to obtain the throne of England and change the name of the country from England to Britannia.[/quote]
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    well seeing as they show little to no monotheistic symbolism in Brittanian cities, its safe to assume that they didnt adopt the "after christ" thing like our European nations did, so im guessing that the AD stands for the death of the first king (forgot his name xD)...

    but seeing as though the Japanese army portrayed in the first opening was fairly modern and closely resembles what we had/have in the latest 5 years, they couldnt be off by more than 5-10 years to our callender, but you also have to put into consideration that they're time/callender might be different than the 24 hour, 365 day one we use...

    and the fact that the invasion of japan happened roughly 4-6 years before the start of the series... that could add to the mystery...


    but in conclusion the creator prbly created the Holy Brittanian Calender so that it wouldnt be compared to modern day, similiar to the Back to the Future series is now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by proEuphie View Post
    If the Britannians spoke a Celtic language most of their names would look and sound like Celtic names, especially Welsh and Breton names. But a lot of their names seem like English names. Therefore Britannians probably speak some form of English.
    If Britannians speak English the Anglo-Saxon invasions, settlements,and conquests probably took place more or less as in our world and a kingdom of England probably developed as in our world.
    In our history the Stuart dynasty is descended from a Breton nobleman at the time of William the conqueror, whose ancestors would have come from Britain during the Dark Ages.
    English King Edward IV (d. 1483) was descended from a daughter of Llwellyn the Great (d. 1240) the ruler of Gwynedd and thus the rightful high king of Britain.
    The Tudor dynasty of England (ruled 1485 to 1603) was an old Welsh family descended from an official of Llwellyn the Great and from Coel Hen (fl. c. 400).
    Thus in the alternate history of Code Geass it would be perfectly possible for the rightful High King of Britain to obtain the throne of England and change the name of the country from England to Britannia.
    Considering that in your previous post you wondered who could figure what language Britannians spoke, you sure are making a lot of assumptions.

    Since Britannia is a fictional country, it is impossible to know what "language" they speak. The obvious would be whatever language Code Geass has been translated into, then again, the Japanese, the Chinese and well...everyone else would be speaking the same language.

    The assumption that you are making is that the names of the characters must follow some sort of pattern that will allow you to figure out what language Britannians speak (and subsequently, more of their history). However, hardly any of the Britannian characters have Celtic names (with the exception of some Knightmares that have Welsh names) and even less have names that have an English origin (if the names aren't just made up):

    Cornelia: Ancient Roman
    Euphemia: Greek
    Shirley: English (one of few characters with an English name)
    Charles: English
    Marianne: French
    Lelouch: French
    Nunnally: Irish
    Guinevere: Welsh (one of even fewer characters with a Welsh name)
    Schneizel: German
    Clovis: Ancient Germanic
    Bismarck: German
    Carine: French
    Villetta: Italian
    Gino: Italian
    Milly: Scandinavian (Swedish, Norwegian)
    Anya: Russian
    Nina: Russian
    Diethard: German
    CÚcile: French
    Lloyd: English, derived from Welsh

    I can go on and on. The point I am trying to make is that the creators did not seem to follow any particular pattern when it came to the names of the characters. A few characters have names that match some part of them. For example, Lelouch (other than being a French name) comes from the French word "louch" which means "one-eyed (blind in one eye)" or "shifty-eyed (sneaky, devious)". With "le" in front of the name, Lelouch could be translated as "the shifty-eyed one".

    Some characters (if not most to all) have full names that have different origins to them. For example, Bradley is an English name. His first name is Luciano, which is Italian (to make matters worse, he pilots the Knightmare Frame Percival, which is a Welsh name).

    If all of the names fell into the same category (when it comes to origin), then it would be easier to figure what language they spoke, assuming that this is something we can figure out as the first language we heard the Britannians speak is a language that goes against all reasoning: Japanese.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfgirl90 View Post
    Considering that in your previous post you wondered who could figure what language Britannians spoke, you sure are making a lot of assumptions.

    Since Britannia is a fictional country, it is impossible to know what "language" they speak. The obvious would be whatever language Code Geass has been translated into, then again, the Japanese, the Chinese and well...everyone else would be speaking the same language.

    The assumption that you are making is that the names of the characters must follow some sort of pattern that will allow you to figure out what language Britannians speak (and subsequently, more of their history). However, hardly any of the Britannian characters have Celtic names (with the exception of some Knightmares that have Welsh names) and even less have names that have an English origin (if the names aren't just made up):

    Cornelia: Ancient Roman
    Euphemia: Greek
    Shirley: English (one of few characters with an English name)
    Charles: English
    Marianne: French
    Lelouch: French
    Nunnally: Irish
    Guinevere: Welsh (one of even fewer characters with a Welsh name)
    Schneizel: German
    Clovis: Ancient Germanic
    Bismarck: German
    Carine: French
    Villetta: Italian
    Gino: Italian
    Milly: Scandinavian (Swedish, Norwegian)
    Anya: Russian
    Nina: Russian
    Diethard: German
    CÚcile: French
    Lloyd: English, derived from Welsh

    I can go on and on. The point I am trying to make is that the creators did not seem to follow any particular pattern when it came to the names of the characters. A few characters have names that match some part of them. For example, Lelouch (other than being a French name) comes from the French word "louch" which means "one-eyed (blind in one eye)" or "shifty-eyed (sneaky, devious)". With "le" in front of the name, Lelouch could be translated as "the shifty-eyed one".

    Some characters (if not most to all) have full names that have different origins to them. For example, Bradley is an English name. His first name is Luciano, which is Italian (to make matters worse, he pilots the Knightmare Frame Percival, which is a Welsh name).

    If all of the names fell into the same category (when it comes to origin), then it would be easier to figure what language they spoke, assuming that this is something we can figure out as the first language we heard the Britannians speak is a language that goes against all reasoning: Japanese.
    Yes, Britannia, like the United States and Canada, has accepted a lot if immigrants from most of the countries of Europe. So the personal names and surnames seem to be drawn for all of the Euopean languages. And there is no clue as to what language Britannians speak.[/quote]
    P.S. Cornelia is an good name for a war leader since it is the feminine form of Cornelius, and St. Cornelius the Centurion is the patron saint of soldiers. Cornelius is used as a name by English speakers,as in Cornelius Vanderbilt,and was used as a middle name by some relatives of mine, one of them was a regular army officer.[/quote]
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    Quote Originally Posted by proEuphie View Post
    Yes, Britannia, like the United States and Canada, has accepted a lot if immigrants from most of the countries of Europe. So the personal names and surnames seem to be drawn for all of the Euopean languages. And there is no clue as to what language Britannians speak.
    Assuming that you are correct, is there any evidence to support the claim that Britannia accepted a large amount of European immigrants just like United States? Because Britannia doing that is completely contradictory to their behavior. All of the names that I mentioned (except the few English and Welsh ones) came from countries that are members of the Euro Universe in the series.

    The Euro Universe operates under democracy while the Britannian Empire is an Imperial Monarchy that operates under Social Darwinism. Since its formation in the 1800s, the E.U has been in conflict with Britannia, so it doesn't make sense for people of the E.U to move to Britannia (and with Britannia's attitude towards others, it doesn't make sense for them to use the names of immigrants). Immigrants came to the United States because of the freedom and the opportunity since an immigrant could get the same opportunities (with the exception of the highest executive positions) as a natural citizen. It does not work that way in Britannia.

    Sunrise, the company that created Code Geass, are known to give some meaning behind the names of the characters that they create themselves. For example, in Gundam Wing, a lot of the characters (even some settings) have names that deal with numbers, especially French ones. In Code Geass, most of the main characters have European names with a meaning that connect to the characters. For example, Euphemia (a well known Greek name) means "to speak well" in Greek. However, because of the way Sunrise works, its not safe to say that the names of the characters reflect where they are from unless it is stated explicitly in the series. For example, just because a lot of the characters in Gundam Wing have French and English names doesn't mean that the characters themselves are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfgirl90 View Post
    Assuming that you are correct, is there any evidence to support the claim that Britannia accepted a large amount of European immigrants just like United States? Because Britannia doing that is completely contradictory to their behavior. All of the names that I mentioned (except the few English and Welsh ones) came from countries that are members of the Euro Universe in the series.

    The Euro Universe operates under democracy while the Britannian Empire is an Imperial Monarchy that operates under Social Darwinism. Since its formation in the 1800s, the E.U has been in conflict with Britannia, so it doesn't make sense for people of the E.U to move to Britannia (and with Britannia's attitude towards others, it doesn't make sense for them to use the names of immigrants). Immigrants came to the United States because of the freedom and the opportunity since an immigrant could get the same opportunities (with the exception of the highest executive positions) as a natural citizen. It does not work that way in Britannia.

    Sunrise, the company that created Code Geass, are known to give some meaning behind the names of the characters that they create themselves. For example, in Gundam Wing, a lot of the characters (even some settings) have names that deal with numbers, especially French ones. In Code Geass, most of the main characters have European names with a meaning that connect to the characters. For example, Euphemia (a well known Greek name) means "to speak well" in Greek. However, because of the way Sunrise works, its not safe to say that the names of the characters reflect where they are from unless it is stated explicitly in the series. For example, just because a lot of the characters in Gundam Wing have French and English names doesn't mean that the characters themselves are.
    Well, if Britannians look down on those with non Britannian names the only reason for Britannians to use non Britannian names is because their ancestors were French or Spanish or Italian or German or whatever. And since a lot of Britannains use non English and non Celtic names a lot of Britannians must have non Britannian ancestors genrations or centuries back. By the time of the American evolution a lot of the colonists had non English ancestry. My mother's family were German speakers who immigrated decades before the American Revolution.

    Perhaps in the world of Code Geass there was a lot more colonization of the North American continent by various European countries before Britannia finally took over what is the US and Canada. And a lot more of the aristocratic leaders of those nonBritannians retained local power and status and eventually joined the Britannian aristocracy. They would have some of the prestige of the old Dutch aristocrats in New York, or the old Swedish families in Pennsylvania, the old French aristocratic families in Quebec and Louisiana, the old Spanish families in Florida and the Southwest, but much more wealth and status and would be a bigger proportion of the aristocracy. If most of the Britannians seen are aristocrats they might have a higher proportion of nonBritannian names than the general population.

    And Britannia might have more attractions for poor, middle-class, and upper-class immigrants than you might imagine from its lack of American democracy. People have been immigrating to new lands thousands of years before American democracy was born. And for thousands of years rulers, even kings, tyrants, and emperors, have been offering rights, freedoms, and benefits to entice foreigners to immigrate to their lands and increase the wealth and population of their lands. [/quote]
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