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    So i'm in a folk/punk band we are ver dedicated to our lyrics, i figured i would post some of them to see what you guys thought about them.
    You can check out our Myspace if you want to hear a few of them www.myspace.com/folxpunx

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    GIVE 'EM HELL BOYS
    Love was in the air
    Gasoline all around
    You kill one rebel
    And Tenthousand hit the ground
    So you scream
    "Send in the tanks"
    We'll bomb these kids
    Back to the stone age
    But we wont
    go quietly
    Wont allow ourselves
    to be beat
    Why just think
    With enough gasoline
    This will all be
    Over by morning
    (Come on boys we'll give 'em hell
    leave 'em scars and a story to tell
    Come on boys we'll give 'em hell
    send 'em home with a story to tell)
    Armed with sticks,
    Bottles, and rocks
    We raise our fists yell
    "**** the cops"
    So we'll stick
    To our guns
    Until our batle
    Has been won
    So we came
    Fully prepaired
    With gas masks to filter
    The poisoned air
    We've heard about the
    Tactics that you'll use
    The levels that
    You'll sink to
    (Come on boys we'll give 'em hell
    leave 'em scars and a story to tell
    Come on boys we'll give 'em hell
    send 'em home with a story to tell)





    Where We're Bound
    Sever the ties
    To your former life
    Unlock your heart
    Open your eyes
    Realize your wrongs
    Make them right
    Change your ways
    Renew life
    ( Who knows just where we're bound
    Lets light up a match, burn it all down
    Get a running start as the world falls apart
    when its all said and done we'll build it back up)
    Now is your chance
    To take a stance
    To put our foot down
    Say this ends now
    Its time for truth
    To end this abuse
    Befor we all die
    Just give it a try
    ( Who knows just where we're bound
    Lets light up a match, burn it all down
    Get a running start as the world falls apart
    When its all said and done we'll build it back up)
    Now the world belongs to us
    And we wont rest 'till babylon is dust
    We'll live in our own society
    Far away from U.S. policy
    (Who knows just where we're bound
    Lets light up a match, burn it all down
    Get a running start as the world falls apart
    When its all said and done we'll build it back up)

    Crash, Burn
    Bet your bottom dollar
    That i'm pushing my luck
    Grab myself by the boots
    Pull myself back up
    The stories that you've heard
    There not all true but ya
    Cant get down when life leaves you black and blue
    (I have a pair
    Of wax wings
    So i'll just fall back
    On my dreams
    If i crash,burn
    And i die
    I'll rest in peace knowing that i tried)
    So here it comes now its your time
    To turn and run or stand and fight
    You may win i may loose
    But life's about chances and the paths we choose
    (I have a pair
    Of wax wings
    So i'll have to fall back
    On my dreams
    If i crash,burn
    And i die
    I'll rest in peace just
    knowing that i tried)
    Now i'm gonna end this song
    Good night good bye
    But first alittle wisdom
    dont ever say die when you can still win
    when those thoughts cloud your mind
    think of your freinds
    (I have a pair of wax wings
    so i'll have to fall back on my dreams
    if i crash,burn
    and i die
    I'll rest in peace just knowing that i tried)

    Final Stand
    Look into your heart
    Tell me what you find
    I might be prying
    I hope you dont mind
    You and me have
    short converstions
    It keeps us away from
    Dramatic confrontations
    Too many freinds
    Fight for no reason
    Their best freinds change from season to season
    dodo dodo dododo
    (Now i'm running out the door
    With a gun in my hand
    Time to make a final stand
    Theres so mutch violence in the world to day
    So many kids with mean words to say
    Idont beleive violence is the only way
    But i refuse to sit around and pray)
    dodo dodo dododo
    Life is short
    Theres hardly time to meet
    But if we do it right
    It sure can be sweet
    You and me have our
    heads on strait
    Thats why we cant accept
    This worldly fate
    I'm fine with living day to day
    You get more out of life when you do it that way
    dodo dodo dododo
    (Now i'm running out the door
    With a gun in my hand
    Time to make a final stand
    Teres so mutch violence in the world today
    So many kids with mean words to say
    I dont beleive violence is the only way
    But i refuse to sit around and pray)
    dodo dodo dododo
    How can you tell if
    You've lived your life well
    There's no final judgment
    No heaven or hell
    Theres only family, freinds,
    And good times
    Your songs your jokes and all of your rhyms
    So dont worry about appending doom
    dont wonder if its coming soon
    dodo dodo dododo
    (Now i'm running out the door with a gun in my hand
    Time to make a final stand
    There's so mutch violence in the world today
    So many kids with mean words to say
    I dont beleive violence is the only way
    But i refuse to sit around and play)
    dodo dodo dododo

    The Day I Die
    The past few years i hav'nt cared
    Solved my problems with a boot and a fist
    Now i seem to have hit a wall
    Dnt know who to trust or who to call
    (What song is it that you'll play
    On my faitful dying day
    One about love, one about death
    The one about all that dust in the wind
    Play one thats happy please dont cry
    No one should be sad the day that i die)
    The last thing i want to see
    Is my freinds with there tears flowing free
    I'll be right there at your side
    I'll hold your hand, be your guide
    (What song is it that you'll play
    On my faitful final day
    One about love one about death
    The one about all that dust in the wind
    Play one thats happy please dont cry
    No one should be sad the day that i die)
    Remmember me but please dont mourn
    Pretnd as if i've never gone
    Sill a little but save the most
    Every time you give me a toast
    (What song is it that you'll play
    On my faitful final day
    One about love one about death
    one about all that dust in the wind
    Play one thats happy please dont cry
    No one should be sad the day that i die)

    As Heros Die
    New stars will rise time will fly
    The sun will set heros will die
    The tune will change
    But the song remains
    A new group of kids
    Playing the same old game
    (This songs for you its your turn to sing
    So raise your voice dare to dream
    Right here and now you can finaly shine
    You never know what you might find)
    We pass the tourch and break the mold
    You get your shot as the young turn old
    So turn the page your story begins
    A brand new chapter so fill it in
    (This songs for you its your turn to sing
    So raise your voice and dare to dream
    Right here and now you can finaly shine
    You never know what you might find)
    Our time is up yours just begun
    So laugh and love and have some fun
    Live it up dance and sing
    Its all that matters if you ask me
    (This songs for you its your turn to sing
    So raise your voice and dare to dream
    Right here and now you can finaly shine
    You never know what you might find)

    The Times Are Changing
    (The times are changing
    There's no denying that
    For better or for worse
    Theres no telling yet
    As long as we have each other
    The world can go to hell
    We'll sit in the park sing our songs
    And let them know that we dont care)
    I'm tired of being told
    What i need to do
    I must be a convict
    Cause i have a few tattoos
    Why dont you live your life
    Leave me to live mine
    I'm sure that without you
    I'll make it through just fine
    So dont be quick to judge
    Cause theres more than meets your eye
    Were good clean kids having fun
    We dont do meth or cheat or lie
    (The times are changing
    Theres no denying that
    For better or for worse
    Theres no telling yet
    As long as we have each other
    The world can go to hell
    We'll sit in the park sing our songs
    And let them know that we dont care)
    Why do you look down on me
    What i do to you
    I'm just making my way through life
    Why do you care what i do
    The outside shouldnt matter
    You should get to know whats within
    Throw your judgments out the door let the change begin
    I dont know mutch sept the glass looks half full
    try to be gentle we dont want it to spill
    (The times are changing theres no denying that
    for better or for worse thers no telling yet
    as long as we have each other the world can go to hell
    we'll set in the park sing our songs and lett them know that we dont care)

    Seasons Greetings
    (Merry christmas you *** holes
    I hope you just die
    Its another christmas eve that ends in a fist fight
    Why cant we have a simple silent night
    So merry christmas you *** holes i hope you all die)
    Why cant we be normal why cant we be a family
    Why does dad have to pay if he wants to see me
    Why do you yell and scream on sutch a special night
    **** i hate this time of year its just one big long fight
    (Merry christmas you assholes i hope you all die
    Its another christmas eve that ends in a fist fight
    Why cant we just have a simple silent night
    So merry christmas you *** holes i hope that you all die)
    No one beleives me when i tell them how you act
    I'm just some ungratful kid whos allways being bad
    i know that aint snow your shoving up your nose
    I aints some dunb kid i know what trouble is
    (Merry christmas you assholes i hope you all die
    Its another christmas eve that ends in a fist fight
    why cant just have a simple silent night so merry christmas you *** holes
    and i hope that you ****ing die)

    7.5.3.
    Hard times come and hard times go
    But side by side we let the good times roll
    Were outkasts who became family
    We got eachother and thats all we need
    (Were punks and skins
    Throwaway kids
    7.5.3. the skumfamily
    I got you, you got me and thats all that we need)
    Some times it seems that the world hates you
    But youll be just fine with the krew
    On your way down we grab you by the hand
    Pick you back up and help you stand
    (Were punks and skins throw away kids
    7.5.3. the skumfamily
    I got you you got me and thats all we'll ever need)
    [a big thanx to Tried and True for this next part]
    tothose who have stayed you've shown your persistence
    To those who have left good ****ing riddence
    to those of you who are new we say welcome
    To any one else our cocks you can suck 'em
    **** the nostalgia **** all the storys
    **** those who speak of the old days of glory
    If your one of us then know that you are one
    And if your not now you never were one-
    Every night the songs we'd sing
    Were about brotherhood and solidarity
    About sitting side by side on those cold drunken nights
    (Were punks and skins
    Throw away kids
    7.5.3. the skumfamily
    I've got you youve got me and thats all that we need)

    DAY FOR CHANGE

    i dont know much
    not more than i've read in books
    but this i say
    is no secret
    not more than a message behind words

    (and its
    we cant live our lives this way
    no we cant live our lives this way
    no we cant live our lives this way
    so todays the day for a change)


    so stap apon your boots
    and grab that gun
    they say dont look back, no dont look back
    for a whole new world has begun

    (and we cant live our lives this way
    no we cant live our lives this way
    no we cant live our lives this way
    so todays the day for a change
    is today the day for a change?
    todays the day for a change)

    BLUE EYES

    a boy came across town
    he had a log face
    i tried to put a smile apone it
    he said i registered myself ive got one month
    he said 31 days exactly
    he said i put my name on that list
    i've got four weeks to live

    (and he said,
    i dont know why, i know i wont be coming back a man,
    and he said i know they lie, i know i wont be coming back a man)

    i waved goodbye looked him in the eye because i knew,
    when and if he returned they'd be a different shade of blue
    the boy that i knew was left there with no direction home

    (and he said,
    idont know why, i know i wont be coming back a man
    and he said, i know they lie, i know i wont be coming back a man)
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    What?? There is no way I'm reading all of that. From what I can see though, it seems decent. I skimmed it and I say u did an okay job.

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    Raiken is right. Itīs too long to read it. So I canīt mark it too. Sorry
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    It's not really that long, seeing as there only seems to be 3-7 words per line. It's a good thing you poetry readers don't venture into fanfic, writing all the way to the end of the line would just be hell for your brains to process.

    The lyrics are pretty good actually. Catchy, good rhyming, and pretty good flow. Though I won't click the myspace link for two reasons, one being I hate the site and two being I'm sure you've butchered the lyrics with screamo singing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Capernicus View Post
    It's not really that long, seeing as there only seems to be 3-7 words per line. It's a good thing you poetry readers don't venture into fanfic, writing all the way to the end of the line would just be hell for your brains to process.

    The lyrics are pretty good actually. Catchy, good rhyming, and pretty good flow. Though I won't click the myspace link for two reasons, one being I hate the site and two being I'm sure you've butchered the lyrics with screamo singing.
    Hello? did you not read the beginning of the post. He's in a Folk Punk band. They don't scream at all. Maybe if you'd actually give him a chance you'd find out that every single damn song is acoustic and it's very good I must say. So don't assume.



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    Quote Originally Posted by kat_star01 View Post
    Hello? did you not read the beginning of the post. He's in a Folk Punk band. They don't scream at all. Maybe if you'd actually give him a chance you'd find out that every single damn song is acoustic and it's very good I must say. So don't assume.
    Yo, ever heard of backseat modding? It's annoying. I don't even know what folk punk is. I'm so tired of people giving dozens of subgenres to a perfectly valid genre on its own. It's pointless. As for you, why don't you let Fabala (you know, the one in charge here) decide if my comment was out of line and delete it? You could have merely reported me, but you chose to be a newb instead. Way to go.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Capernicus View Post
    Yo, ever heard of backseat modding? It's annoying. I don't even know what folk punk is. I'm so tired of people giving dozens of subgenres to a perfectly valid genre on its own. It's pointless. As for you, why don't you let Fabala (you know, the one in charge here) decide if my comment was out of line and delete it? You could have merely reported me, but you chose to be a newb instead. Way to go.
    I never said that your comment was out of line. It was ignorant, and very assuming. And I'm sorry if you hate subgenres, but theirs millions of them out there regardless of how you feel about it. And why the hell would I want to complain to the mod about your comment? Honestly, regardless of how I feel it's your opinion, and I'm not that offended by it. I don't know how that makes me a newb, and I don't understand how stating my opinion is back seat modding either, and it's not like that comment really affects me in any way really.



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    Then why post twice about it?


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    Y'know, I really like it! I read the lyrics and I think they are awesome! They had a nice I also checked out the link and I think it's pretty neat! Good job! Final Stand was my favorite one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sister Nightroad View Post
    Y'know, I really like it! I read the lyrics and I think they are awesome! They had a nice I also checked out the link and I think it's pretty neat! Good job! Final Stand was my favorite one.
    thanx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capernicus View Post
    It's not really that long, seeing as there only seems to be 3-7 words per line. It's a good thing you poetry readers don't venture into fanfic, writing all the way to the end of the line would just be hell for your brains to process.

    The lyrics are pretty good actually. Catchy, good rhyming, and pretty good flow. Though I won't click the myspace link for two reasons, one being I hate the site and two being I'm sure you've butchered the lyrics with screamo singing.
    Well just so you know i only write that way when i write lyrics or poetry, any of my short stories or essays are writen normaly just like any body else's.

    It seems very rude that you assume that i would ruin my own lyrics. First off i dont scream them thats why i said FOLK/PUNK and not Screamo, second if i wanted to scream them they are my lyrics they belong to me no one else i can do what ever i want with them. Also if you click on the link and listen to one lil' three minet song i'm sure that myspace wont suck your soul from it mortal coil and lock you in the deepest pit of hell.

    On one last note. sub-genres are very important these days. Expesially when it comes to Punk. Punk has been mixed into almost every genre that has come after it, and alot of the ones that came befor it. A person cant say that they listen to Punk and expect every one to know what they are in to. some people like pop-punk, others like street punk, some like me have a special place for all sub-genres and understand that you have to get strait to the point if you want people to understand what you like.

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    Wow, those are really good lyrics. Your imagery is very prominent as well. My faves were "The Day I Die" and "Crash and Burn".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riot11 View Post
    Well just so you know i only write that way when i write lyrics or poetry, any of my short stories or essays are writen normaly just like any body else's.

    It seems very rude that you assume that i would ruin my own lyrics. First off i dont scream them thats why i said FOLK/PUNK and not Screamo, second if i wanted to scream them they are my lyrics they belong to me no one else i can do what ever i want with them. Also if you click on the link and listen to one lil' three minet song i'm sure that myspace wont suck your soul from it mortal coil and lock you in the deepest pit of hell.

    On one last note. sub-genres are very important these days. Expesially when it comes to Punk. Punk has been mixed into almost every genre that has come after it, and alot of the ones that came befor it. A person cant say that they listen to Punk and expect every one to know what they are in to. some people like pop-punk, others like street punk, some like me have a special place for all sub-genres and understand that you have to get strait to the point if you want people to understand what you like.
    Wasn't trying to be rude. And yes, they are your lyrics and you can butcher/not butcher them as you like. I never said you couldn't, only that I preferred not to listen to them. Don't be so self-righteous. Again, I don't understand what folk punk is, nor do I care enough to google it. And I still believe that we can do away with all these subgenres. Why don't people just listen to some of the music you like to understand what you like rather than be aware and familiar with countless (and imo pointless) subgenres?

    And btw, now I'm having trouble believing those are your lyrics based on the number of typos in your post. And double-posting is not allowed.

    Edit: And you know what, now that I think about it this entire thread reeks of rule-breaking (and not just on my part). You've incorrectly labeled your thread as well as posted more than one per thread. Read the rules please. (Now I'm backseat modding, though it doesn't look like Fabala is around at all.)
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    I think your lyrics are great. I don't condone them but the talent is what we're to be judging and not the subject matter. I almost cried when i read Final Stand. I'm still tearing up.

    A little advice which you are free to adhere or disregard:

    I thunk it would be best for you to edit your post and start a new thread for each song. Not a lot of people will try to sieve through all of that. I was even guilty of deserting it then i read the other posts and someone said they were good so i turned back and took the time to go through it. Honestly, they are really good. I would love to see others reading it though so maybe you could try what i suggested? Please?

    You'll probabely hate me for this one but the english rule states that "I" goes before "E" except after "C". You might want to revise this so you can remember it whenever you are spelling an "IE" word. Please don't curse me i'm delicate and i'm only thinking about you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azul View Post
    I think your lyrics are great. I don't condone them but the talent is what we're to be judging and not the subject matter. I almost cried when i read Final Stand. I'm still tearing up.

    A little advice which you are free to adhere or disregard:

    I thunk it would be best for you to edit your post and start a new thread for each song. Not a lot of people will try to sieve through all of that. I was even guilty of deserting it then i read the other posts and someone said they were good so i turned back and took the time to go through it. Honestly, they are really good. I would love to see others reading it though so maybe you could try what i suggested? Please?

    You'll probabely hate me for this one but the english rule states that "I" goes before "E" except after "C". You might want to revise this so you can remember it whenever you are spelling an "IE" word. Please don't curse me i'm delicate and i'm only thinking about you.
    Thanks for not being rude, but a new tread for each one would be more work when you think about it.

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