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    Its really not that hard of a language, its kind of hard, it takes alot of dedication, but you get the hang of it, Im in my first year so far, I cant speak much, but I can make sentences so I guess thats an improvement. Also, if you wanna learn Japanese, I recommend this site -> www.thejapanesepage.com. Its a great site.
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    It's all in motivation.I learned the basics.So I'd say yes.If you want hiragana and Kanji yes yes it is easy.

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    Kanji isnt that easy though, there are 2,036 to learn. o-O
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    I just noticed this topic title has an apostrophe in "want" There isn't a word in the English language that is "wan" therefore it doesn't need an apostrophe. I thought I'd point that out for future mistakes.

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    It goes without saying that lerning foreign language is quite difficult.
    I'm learning French, but even though it is similar to English, it is so tough!!

    Especially Japanese is quite strange language for leaners.
    There first language are totaly different from japanese, for instance letter, grammer and how to use dialects.

    But speaking itself isn't so difficult coz there are only about 80 sounds.
    First of all, you should distinguish every Japanese sounds.

    And I wanna say you'd better not to refer to lyrics.
    They are seldom used in ordinary conversation.
    It is almost no use to memorize them...

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    I have tried to learn Japanese with just lyrics but I think I won't try doing that again.

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    。。。まってください


    Well, like any language, it's not going to stick within a couple of months. It takes time, dedication and a good memory. It's a little harder since it's not as popular as other languages you may be used to being around. It's a LOT better when you have a tutor/someone to practice with. Learning on your own is an alright way, but you don't have anyone to practice what you've learned.
    Learning a new language is a very good idea anyways, with our expanding economies, improving transportation and world-wide events.

    まってください。。。

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    well....itz kinda hard.my friend tried teaching me but it was really hard.i know some words but other then that..itz kinda hard.nut youll enjoy learning a new launguge.=]

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    Well, here's some of my pointers. If you're studying on your own, and not taking formal lessons or lessons from a book, then you most definately want to start off with the basics. With me, I didn't know where to start because I wasn't smart in Japanese, then my school took in a Japanese teacher [Yes, actual Japanese native] and that was so much easier. I'll base this off of how I learnt the language, and it might vary with others.

    1. Learn the Hiragana chart. Don't say "okay I know it" and never test yourself again. Test yourself regularly to recognize the characters, and also test yourself on writing them. For some strange reason, since I rarely write "E" in hiragana, I'm a little slow writing it now, for some strange reason.
    2. Learn the basics such as the main particles [ones I use most..] and the introductory words, etc. Then you learn commands in a classroom, which can be used at business sometimes or at ceremonies. For the particles, I recommend learning WA, WO, DE, TO, YA, NI, NO (topic, object, tool/place, and, and again, place/event/time, description of object (mom's cat)(my orange))
    3. Stick to one speech type. I can't think of how to word this. In school, we're being taught the formal type. Always desu, masu, dewaarimasen, mashita, etc, etc. I think on the 4th year or maybe 3rd you start to learn the casual speech.
    4. If you learn kanji, take in a few at a time. When you move on to more difficult kanji, I'd learn what radicals mean. When you get to the kanji that looks like others, the radicals will really really help.
    5. When you learn the katakana chart, always test yourself on both hiragana and katakana. Know the "extended" katakana as well like (vu, wi, wo(sound)).

    That's really all I can give you. In the first year of Japanese here, you're really only supposed to learn basic numbers 1~10+100, month, day, day names, which is only 20, but the teacher ended up teaching us somewhere around 180~230 kanji. That's really not alot compared to the actual number of kanji there really is.


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    Ive only been studing Japanese for couple months now, all Self study. I have Hiragana Memorized going to work on Katakana next.

    Im using 2 Programs Rocket japanese and Rosetta Stone, which is actually working out pretty smooth, but even with my small vocabulary as it is, picking up the words that I know from anime's is easier then ever.

    Thing Im still trying to pick up is getting Sentence structure's down pat, like which work would be subject, and how to phrase everything but I guess that all comes naturally in time.
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    Try learning Spanish first. Japanese is a whole lot easier learning that language.
    Well, if you speak Arabic it might be easy as well. I'm just suggesting Spanish cause its so closely related to Japanese. (oddly)

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    Its not bad. I am still learning on my own.
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    in my experience, learning japanesse has been hard, my main language is english, but if you pronounce anything wrong or if you write one symbol wrong, it could mean something else all together, and i too am self taught.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimeEyes View Post
    Heyy Guyzz!

    I'd like to know how to speak Japanese, I just love eastern Asian languages, I can speak English and Arabic fluently, so can someone tell me if Japanese language is easy?
    It certainly isn't easy, but if you already know two languages fluently, I think you'll be just fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by aishiteru333 View Post
    Try learning Spanish first. Japanese is a whole lot easier learning that language.
    Well, if you speak Arabic it might be easy as well. I'm just suggesting Spanish cause its so closely related to Japanese. (oddly)

    ~Wish you luck in learning this awesome language!
    Don't make me laugh, Spanish isn't much -if any- more related to Japanese then English, lets start by comparing vocab.

    Spanish : más = More.

    Japanese : もっと (Motto) = More.

    Spanish : Puella = Girl. EDIT = correction it's niña, thank you for correcting me pengin-san.

    Japanese : 女の子 (Onna no ko) = Girl.

    Now for sentence structure.

    What they share : Sentence structure can be jumbled up and still work, however, unlike Spanish, Japanese requires the verb to come last in order to be grammatically correct. (I'm studying Japanese myself, and I looked Spanish sentence structure up here)

    What's different : The aforementioned subtle difference in sentence structure.

    Now for written form, need I even bother?

    Aaaaaaaaaanyways, on to regions, lets see here... hello Wikipedia!

    Spanish map:


    The red is areas that have it as the official language, the red is co-oficial.


    As for Japanese, it is hardly ever officially spoken off of the Japanese Islands.


    So no they are not related.
    Last edited by Rafear; 07-30-2008 at 09:44 PM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aishiteru333 View Post
    Try learning Spanish first. Japanese is a whole lot easier learning that language.
    Well, if you speak Arabic it might be easy as well. I'm just suggesting Spanish cause its so closely related to Japanese. (oddly)

    ~Wish you luck in learning this awesome language!
    I'm curious as to what similarities you mean. I 'studied' Spanish many years ago and I can't say I ever used anything of what I learned when it came to Japanese. Actually, I found Japanese easier than Spanish, but that probably has less to do with the complexities of the languages and more to do with how little I cared.

    Spanish is a good base for French or Italian, but from what I'm aware the only language really similar to Japanese is Korean. (So I've heard, as I don't know a word of Korean) The only similarity I'm aware of between Spanish and Japanese is they use the same word for bread, "pan", and that actually comes from Portuguese, not Spanish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafear View Post
    As for Japanese, it is hardly ever officially spoken off of the Japanese Islands.


    So no they are not related.
    What aishiteru meant, is that it's common knowledge that the pronunciation is almost exactly the same.

    Just for the lolz, there is a word that is the same in Spanish.

    パン and pan, they both mean bread :3.

    Also, puella? I have never heard that term. There's mujer, muchacha, chica,
    and niña. I can assure you that Spanish speakers do not use "puella". Where did you even get that from? /totally offtopic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengin-san View Post
    What aishiteru meant, is that it's common knowledge that the pronunciation is almost exactly the same.

    Just for the lolz, there is a word that is the same in Spanish.

    パン and pan, they both mean bread :3.

    Also, puella? I have never heard that term. There's mujer, muchacha, chica,
    and niña. I can assure you that Spanish speakers do not use "puella". Where did you even get that from? /totally offtopic
    I'm sorry for the "Puella" mix-up, typed the wrong word.

    I'm going to have to ask for examples on the pronunciation bit though, I just don't see the similarities.

    And by the way, even if you're right about pronunciation, she said "Closely related" not similarly pronounced.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafear View Post
    I'm sorry for the "Puella" mix-up, typed the wrong word.

    I'm going to have to ask for examples on the pronunciation bit though, I just don't see the similarities.

    And by the way, even if you're right about pronunciation, she said "Closely related" not similarly pronounced.
    Totally fine, I'm not trying to be a smart-a** XDD! -Completely came off as one-

    Well, in Spanish (I'm near fluent with this language) many of the sounds are quite similar. Like in English, we want to pronounce "chico" like "chih-ko". However, the Japanese and Spanish pronounce it "chee-ko". There really isn't "a" as in "cat" in Spanish or Japanese, it's more like "ah" as in "tako" or "gato". There is no "o" as in "box", there's "oh" as in "yomu" or "hijo". Also, there are no silent letters like our "e" in "else". They pronouce it all, like "nombre" or "matte". You see what I'm trying to say? It's much easier for someone who takes a romance language for pronunciation.

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    First I would like to apologize to Aishiteru for the tone I initially took with her, I'm sorry.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pengin-san View Post
    Totally fine, I'm not trying to be a smart-a** XDD! -Completely came off as one-

    Well, in Spanish (I'm near fluent with this language) many of the sounds are quite similar. Like in English, we want to pronounce "chico" like "chih-ko". However, the Japanese and Spanish pronounce it "chee-ko". There really isn't "a" as in "cat" in Spanish or Japanese, it's more like "ah" as in "tako" or "gato". There is no "o" as in "box", there's "oh" as in "yomu" or "hijo". Also, there are no silent letters like our "e" in "else". They pronouce it all, like "nombre" or "matte". You see what I'm trying to say? It's much easier for someone who takes a romance language for pronunciation.
    Well now it makes a little more sense, but I still don't see "Almost exactly the same", nor "Common knowledge" considering Google results on a search for similarities turns up nothing, -within my lazy one-page-each-wording search anyway- and it doesn't strike me as efficient to study an entire language for pronunciation in another anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafear View Post
    Well now it makes a little more sense, but I still don't see "Almost exactly the same", nor "Common knowledge" considering Google results on a search for similarities turns up nothing, -within my lazy one-page-each-wording search anyway- and it doesn't strike me as efficient to study an entire language for pronunciation in another anyway.
    I didn't learn that on Google though. I learned it from studying different languages. Nor did I say I studied Spanish just to learn Japanese. This is what I said:

    You see what I'm trying to say? It's much easier for someone who takes a romance language for pronunciation.
    I never said you needed to study Spanish to speak Japanese, it just helps if you happened to take it. Of course you can make it without knowing Spanish. As you progress in Japanese, you will see the resemblance, or at least understand it. You're just thinking too hard about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengin-san View Post
    I didn't learn that on Google though. I learned it from studying different languages. Nor did I say I studied Spanish just to learn Japanese. This is what I said:



    I never said you needed to study Spanish to speak Japanese, it just helps if you happened to take it. Of course you can make it without knowing Spanish. As you progress in Japanese, you will see the resemblance, or at least understand it. You're just thinking too hard about it.
    If it's "Common knowledge" I'd like to think I'd find more than a few people saying so, and I should have clarified, the comment about learning an entire language to learn Japanese easier not being efficient was targeted at Aishiteru, who recommended it, my bad.

    I would like to get some audio files of natives speaking the to languages for discussions sake, but I seem to be coming up short on the Japanese end. (At least when restricted to forum rules about links.)

    And by the way Rizuchan said this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rizuchan View Post
    I'm curious as to what similarities you mean. I 'studied' Spanish many years ago and I can't say I ever used anything of what I learned when it came to Japanese. Actually, I found Japanese easier than Spanish, but that probably has less to do with the complexities of the languages and more to do with how little I cared.

    Spanish is a good base for French or Italian, but from what I'm aware the only language really similar to Japanese is Korean. (So I've heard, as I don't know a word of Korean) The only similarity I'm aware of between Spanish and Japanese is they use the same word for bread, "pan", and that actually comes from Portuguese, not Spanish.
    And my cousin studied Spanish in high school and has made on and off attempts at Japanese (including a healthy focus on pronunciation.), and when I told him about this conversation, he went "What the?...".

    Maybe I am thinking too hard about this, but if I am, then why is it that even when I relax and hardly think about it, I never think "hey that sounds like Japanese!" when I hear something in Spanish, and vice versa.

    I will concede that in a very abstract sense of certain letters/syllables there is a similarity, but when I hear natives, I don't see any past that.

    Though this has gotten quite off-topic, I'll give you the last point if you want it, but I'm getting back on topic before I provoke the admins' wrath.


    Animeeyes, here's some suggestions:

    1. Whatever you do, don't rely on romanji.

    2. Get as much exposure to it as possible.

    3. I recommend the following books (If you're going to learn using books instead of/in addition to the internet.):
    -Japanese Verbs At a Glance by Naoko Chino.
    -The handbook of Japanese Adjectives And Adverbs by Taeko Kamiya.
    -A Dictionary of Japanese Particles by Sue A. Kawashima.
    -Kodansha's Furigana Dictionary by [self-explanatory]. (Assuming you don't use/want a supplement to a computerized dictionary.)
    -Remembering the Kana. (Don't quite remember the author right now, and my cousin is currently borrowing my copy.)

    4. I also recommend the computer program JWPCE found here.

    5. The above lists are restricted to ones I've used, as for ones I have no personal experience with, I have heard good things about the "Japanese for Busy People" series, and of course, check the lists on these forums.

    Good luck.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafear View Post
    If it's "Common knowledge" I'd like to think I'd find more than a few people saying so, and I should have clarified, the comment about learning an entire language to learn Japanese easier not being efficient was targeted at Aishiteru, who recommended it, my bad.

    I would like to get some audio files of natives speaking the to languages for discussions sake, but I seem to be coming up short on the Japanese end. (At least when restricted to forum rules about links.)
    Why are you persistent on trying to make me look like a fool? I'm not trying to make you look stupid. All I said was that the pronunciation was similar. I'm nearly fluent in Spanish, and I've been taking Japanese for four years. I've had several teachers in both Spanish and Japanese tell me this. And I'm finding that you're looking this up on Google. You really don't need to sit here and tell me how utterly wrong I am.

    Here's your link:
    http://learnjapanese.elanguageschool.../view.php?id=1

    Yes, the languages are very different, but the pronunciation is similar. Stop focusing on how one's from Asia and one's from Europe, and their grammar. In the end, ALL languages have something in common with each other. Something you can learn later on if you take a linguistics class.

    If you still don't believe this, good for you. I could care less. You're really making a big deal out of something so small. I was simply making a comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengin-san View Post
    Why are you persistent on trying to make me look like a fool? I'm not trying to make you look stupid. All I said was that the pronunciation was similar. I'm nearly fluent in Spanish, and I've been taking Japanese for four years. I've had several teachers in both Spanish and Japanese tell me this. And I'm finding that you're looking this up on Google. You really don't need to sit here and tell me how utterly wrong I am.

    Here's your link:
    http://learnjapanese.elanguageschool.../view.php?id=1

    Yes, the languages are very different, but the pronunciation is similar. Stop focusing on how one's from Asia and one's from Europe, and their grammar. In the end, ALL languages have something in common with each other. Something you can learn later on if you take a linguistics class.

    If you still don't believe this, good for you. I could care less. You're really making a big deal out of something so small. I was simply making a comment.
    I'm very sorry if it sounded like I was trying to make you look like a fool I wasn't I just don't debate much, and tend to go overboard when I do, sorry, if anything, I made myself look like a fool here.


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