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    Cool Wan't to speak Japanese =]

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    I'd like to know how to speak Japanese, I just love eastern Asian languages, I can speak English and Arabic fluently, so can someone tell me if Japanese language is easy?
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    Well...
    Is it easy?
    as far as I am concerned I will say yes.

    But apparently the difficulty of learning a language felt by someone is usually varied by the person, so I can't tell you the same. You will have to try studying it for at least a few months to determine for yourself.
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    It's very formulaic, I've found. In English you have as many exceptions to all the grammar rules as you have words that follow the rules, so there really are no rules. In Japanese, if you know the rules, 99/100 times you'll be right.

    But you have to learn the rules. That's the hard part.
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    Im doing TEE japanese at university here in perth and then i plan to go to japan to do my IT Grad Course. so i have to learn Alot of Japanese in a short amount of time and im finding it relitivley easy but everone learns at a different pase


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    It's very formulaic, I've found. In English you have as many exceptions to all the grammar rules as you have words that follow the rules, so there really are no rules. In Japanese, if you know the rules, 99/100 times you'll be right.
    (百歩譲って) that could possibly be true, but I'll warn that the cultural nuances of Japanese (like different degrees of politeness, social context, etc) are so abundant that a textbook approach to the language simply won't work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Datenshi View Post
    (百歩譲って) that could possibly be true, but I'll warn that the cultural nuances of Japanese (like different degrees of politeness, social context, etc) are so abundant that a textbook approach to the language simply won't work.
    thats when you need experiance talking casualy to someone. there's about 50 levels of politeness and is really difficult to choose the correct words.


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    Ive found it much easier than I expected despite the script. I've picked it up more quickly than any other language I've studied. But the best way to get a grasp of the social conventions is just to watch and listen to a lot of Japanese speaking - not just anime but interviews, live events, etc...and also to read stuff, also. Which requires a certain amount of knowledge.

    No language is "easy" per se. They all require a certain amount of dedication. And yes, there are a lot of rules Japanese sticks to but its worth remembering that a lot of these rules do not tally directly to English grammar rules and so must all be learnt and recognised...

    You can't after all take English and translate it word for word to Japanese or vice versa.

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    I think Japanese is one of the easiest non-Indo-European languages I've learned (am learning), but then, that might have something to do with most of the others I've learned being dialects of Chinese. I mean, at least Japanese has definitive grammar. >>;

    In any case, I've picked up the degree I have with little to no actual work on my part. I've had no formal instruction, and I've only ever bought a tiny romaji dictionary, a very basic grammar, and a good kanji dictionary. Granted, I started nearly some seven years ago, and I haven't gotten to even a conversational level, but that's primarily because the majority of the vocabulary I know is from haphazard attempts at reading/translating doujinshi and music lyrics, and watching anime. It was only just over a year ago that I actually got to the point where I understood sentence structure well enough to pick up on what was going on in dialogue without resorting to a dictionary for every other word. I've spoken with lots of Japanese people (in English), and I always feel like I want to try speaking Japanese with them, but I get too nervous to do so because my language is probably nowhere near polite enough. xD

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimeEyes View Post
    Heyy Guyzz!

    I'd like to know how to speak Japanese, I just love eastern Asian languages, I can speak English and Arabic fluently, so can someone tell me if Japanese language is easy?
    I can speak Arabic too. Im learning Umm i would say that japanese
    is easy. Im from Japan. But when I learnt it was really easy!
    But a little confusing. If you need help PM me and i can give you
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    There are a few places that seem to hold up learners of Japanese. First, would be writing the characters. Then, I would say it is the verb forms (te form, etc etc). Next, being able to understand up to a certain number of kanji (some seem to plateau after a few hundred, when they stop looking like pictures. depends on how the students were taught, though).

    What was/is your stumbling block in your Japanese studies?

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    I'm surprised you didn't mention counters.

    Being as you know English and Arabic, rather than another Asian language, I would say it's tough.

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    I've found that Japanese, as much as it is compared to Chinese, is much easier. This may be due to the fact that you have named symbols instead of a bunch of Kanji.

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    Japanese isn't really that difficult. I'm not saying it's easy though coz the grammar can be quite tricky at times U_U
    But it's really fun to learn it coz it's a very interesting language.

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    there are quite many sites in google that offers nihongo lessons just search for it.

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    I would like to learn Japanese too.

    Sorry for off-topic but does anyone knows how to sing in Japanese?

    I mean like have the ability to sing and speaks Japanese?

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    Sorry for off-topic but does anyone knows how to sing in Japanese?

    I mean like have the ability to sing and speaks Japanese?
    I still don't quite understand what you mean. Certainly, I can sing in Japanese, but whether or not you would say I have a decent singing ability might be questionable.

    I find singing things in Japanese to but much easier than speaking it. I could sing anime and Jpop songs when I was 10 years old, because learning to pronounce things from Romaji is pretty easy, plus Japanese in music is usually a lot slower sung than said.

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    i want to learn how to speak Japanese too and others right now im learning french and chinese

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rizuchan View Post
    I still don't quite understand what you mean. Certainly, I can sing in Japanese, but whether or not you would say I have a decent singing ability might be questionable.

    I find singing things in Japanese to but much easier than speaking it. I could sing anime and Jpop songs when I was 10 years old, because learning to pronounce things from Romaji is pretty easy, plus Japanese in music is usually a lot slower sung than said.
    I didn't want to sound harsh... but I guess I have to.

    Does anyone have a pretty good at voice singing? You know because I'm gonna make an anime and I need a theme song, so I was asking if someone had a pretty good voice to actually sing a something in Japanese. I don't want a crappy voice as a theme song.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimeEyes View Post
    Heyy Guyzz!

    I'd like to know how to speak Japanese, I just love eastern Asian languages, I can speak English and Arabic fluently, so can someone tell me if Japanese language is easy?
    1) If it's not easy, will you still be willing to do it? I think not, from your post.

    2) You should be strong in one language before you learn Jap, and looking at the title of this you aren't very strong in English.

    3) The people I have tried to teach quickly lose interest, how will you be any different?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Capernicus View Post
    1) If it's not easy, will you still be willing to do it? I think not, from your post.

    2) You should be strong in one language before you learn Jap, and looking at the title of this you aren't very strong in English.

    3) The people I have tried to teach quickly lose interest, how will you be any different?
    Hmm... if Arabic is her first language, then I'd say presumably she is quite talented in languages. Though there are a few mistakes in her English, she seems to have a good grasp of the language.

    I just felt the need to say that since it seemed to me as if your post was unnecessarily harsh, although I mean to cause you no offense.

    As for Japanese being easy...
    I'd say as long as you enjoy it enough, the feeling of accomplishment you get from it easily outweighs any difficulties you might have

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Stone View Post
    I didn't want to sound harsh... but I guess I have to.

    Does anyone have a pretty good at voice singing? You know because I'm gonna make an anime and I need a theme song, so I was asking if someone had a pretty good voice to actually sing a something in Japanese. I don't want a crappy voice as a theme song.
    Not to sound harsh (Er, not meaning to mimic you, sorry.) But you really shouldn't be worrying about who's going to sing your anime's theme song until you actually have a show finished. It sounds fun to plan it all out like that but if you're honestly serious about making your own anime, finding a singer for the opening theme isn't a place to start. I'm not going to lecture you about the impossibility of doing something like that on your own because this isn't the place for it, but just to give you some friendly advice.

    Anyway, I assume that you are a native English speaker, so even if you were to get some sort of animated show together I would advise you have the theme song for it in your native language. Who would you even get to write you a song in Japanese?

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    Actually, I already found some voice actors and wrote the plot with a few friends on mines, and yes, I also found some artist and I currently looking for more. I'm not working by myself, if you actually click this link(YouTube Profile), you will see that there's people actually helping us. I would actually follow your advices for the exception of "using my native language" because my native language happens to be Spanish and I'm the only one that speaks Spanish between all of us the are working in this anime. For the theme song's lyric, one of my friends and I are gonna write the lyric in English, and we will gonna try to find someone who will translate the lyric in Japanese (even thought it mind sound weird or horrible)

    If you want to continue this conversation, send me a PM, that way we don't spam up this thread.

    We were working on this over a month, I didn't just started looking for a singer.
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    To be quite honest, I dont think learning ANY language is easy... (to the point of fluency, I mean).

    English is my first language. I can also speak some Spanish and French. When it comes to how much/how well I can speak, Japanese is 2nd.

    Ive been studying Japanese for a while and though it's been fun, I would never consider it "easy". Especially if you want to go more in depth with the language (writing it as well.)

    Its really different from English. Even with my good memory, I still have problems remembering sentence order, and etc... and OMG! Dont even let me get started on KANJI DX <--Major Kill right there! LOL

    So yeah, it's a difficult language. Alot of memorizing, studying and breaking down. Its even harder if you dont live in an area where you can constantly practice and apply what you learn on a daily basis...

    But if you are really interested in learning, and you dont mind the hard work and time spent on it... I say go for it!

    Because it can be soo rewarding when you finally learn something and can apply to it! That, and I love studying the language. I started out learning so that I would be able to translate manga and watch [understand] Raw anime... (>_<")... but after studying it for a while, I really came to love the language itself.

    I cant speak for everyone, of course.
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