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    Ok, I have been told before this isn't the place to complain about your threads being closed. Take it up with the moderator blah blah.

    None of the misc moderators are online. And there are like a dozen threads just closed. Several of which I can think of no possible reason they needed to be closed. Threads in which I had wanted to discuss things.


    Is it too much to ask that when a mod closes a thread they post who did it and why?

    Edit: marudashi's "closed" atleast lets one know who to take it up with
    All the closed with out warning threads though, and apparently I must think moderators are going around with their status hidden so they can't be seen as 'online' is going to cause a lot of confusement and discontent
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    Been wondering the same as well.

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    If it's closed without a post stating why, I usually assume it's one of the higher admins. That's what Bean told me once.

    The moderators of misc tend to leave a closing post but the admins don't. Sometime a thread is just plain stupid and doesn't need a explaination though.

    I dunno the full answer though.

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    Or maybe that the mods have this thing where something blahblahblah can be closed even when offline
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    Is there some rule that these threads are breaking? I don't think they are stupid. In fact I think there is valid discussion to be had.

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    Edit: the offline thing, I'm fairly certain is just that they have the option enabled that hides their status. All users can turn it on, but for for admins/mods I don't think it should be done. Contacting them is suposed to be our only recourse about this sort of issue.
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    1. A place for Otaku: asking for suggestions, should be in blog. Also, just a "post and leave" thread.
    2. How do you IM: "post and leave" thread
    3. Heavy Heart: advice thread, "post and leave" thread
    4. Dumbest Reason: "post and leave thread"
    5. ATM# Whatever: complaint thread

    From what I understand, threads where the individual can post and not have to look into that thread ever again are being closed because they have no real discussion value.

    A topic such as "Whats the saddest movie youve seen?" would be closed. Theres no discussion. Something like "Freedom of Speech in the US" would have more discussion value to it.

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    Edit: the offline thing, I'm fairly certain is just that they have the option enabled that hides their status. All users can turn it on, but for for admins/mods I don't think it should be done. Contacting them is suposed to be our only recourse about this sort of issue.
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    Let me begin with the first page

    At the Moment #65: posting game
    What did you learn today? ver IX: posting game
    Those darn muscle cramps: post and leave thread
    Living in a basement.... lovely: post and leave thread
    Ever recieved an infraction?: post and leave thread
    Electric, classic, or acustic guitar: asking for advice
    How bad are you with money?: post and leave thread
    why?: post and leave, possibly innapropriate
    if you had but a day to live: post and leave thread
    your worst nickname: post and leave thread
    secret admiration confessional: post game
    animal fears: post and leave thread
    shooting star: post and leave thread
    which phobias do you have?: post and leave thread
    computer mods: post and leave thread


    Go ahead and close the entire misc forum. There is maybe 1 in 50 threads that wouldn't qualify for at least one reason that other threads have been closed.
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    Ball Tripper has a point.

    The way moderators close threads with excuse "spam" or "post and leave" could be applied to nearly every thread on Misc. section.
    Either way even if they are threads like that, what's so bad about having a little higher post count?
    I mean .. if they want to tell the other something about themselves - then who not? >________>
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    You just like to complain to try to stir up a riot and to get attention. Is it really a bad thing if people dont give you all of their attention? You act like the moderators are here JUST for you. That we live and breathe this forum just to make it a great place for you to live.


    We don't. As often as some of us are online, myself included, we just can't be here 24 hours a day.

    Really, bringing this all up in public is just your way of acting like a brat and demanding that we all cater to your every whim.

    We have posting games, yes. We don't allow 50 of them at a time, yes.

    Why don't we allow a bunch at a time?

    1. We have 3 Misc Mods. They are all on at different times of the day.
    2. It would take far more than 3 misc mods, if they were all online 12 hours a day to closely moderate each and every spam and posting game thread. I know, because I was the Misc mod on Tuxedomask.com, and it took me like 12 hours a day to actively moderate the forum. I read every single thread, and every single new post to keep myself up to date and to know what's going on.


    All the posts I've seen from the major complainers when posts get closed, are spammers. All you people do is spam this forum for a huge post count, money, and reputation. Would it kill you to give it all away? Have no money, no reputation, and no post count? I think it would. All you do is complain, flame, spam, complain some more.

    Seriously, everytime I see either of you post I cringe, because I know it's either going to be useless spam or a retarded attempt at flaming someone, or a complaint about a closed thread.

    Get-over-it. This is a forum on the internet. If you have a REAL complaint, and I mean a real complaint:

    "Dear Moderator (Name here),

    I was wondering why my/a thread got closed. The title of the thread was "Blah Blah" and here is the link "Link". Thank you in advance for getting back to me!

    Sincerely,
    The User"

    Ask Maru. Go on, ask her. Do you catch more flies with honey? I've PM'd her a couple times since she was made a mod with pretty much that same thing, probably not so formal. I think it was like "yo, why didja close this thread? I liked it!" And she'd be like "yo dawg, i dinna close dat 1 lol. i has no idea." or she'd be like "duuur spam dummy! lol -bonks ai on head- ur silly!"
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    dude.. just dont argue with the mods.. theyre all stubborn and think theyre right and will not change their minds for anything... so just let them close whatever they want...(they have the right to i guess...)

    PS: ive noticed the mods usually wont give you a strait up answer to anything they do... idk.. overall id say the mods here arent really user friendly, could use some improvement lol...

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    I brought this up in public for two reasons. No moderators were online, no closing posts were made in the threads I mentioned. I had no way of knowing which staff member or members to contact. I also feel this is an issue of more than just a single thread I didn't want closed.


    As for your personal attack, Princess Ai. I have cursed before and I have said some innapropriate things, I was reprimanded and ceased to do so. I have never flamed anyone on this site. I have never posted something I didn't feel was relavent, sorry if you think everything I say is spam. I care not at all for my reputation, post count, or points. If I did, I would participate in the posting games.
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    I'm relatively new here and I probably have no say in this whatsoever, but forgive me to chip in a cent.

    First and foremost I agree with the original poster in principle, which is to say I've been noticing the same thing, and I also feel it would be helpful to have a brief explanation of why some of the threads has been closed; for every five threads closed for spam there may be one or two threads with a discussion worth pursuing. But I'm not going to argue over that, since I don't understand how the forum is run and the reasons behind this enough to have a well-informed opinion. What I do understand is that this is a very large forum with a steady flow of new users and typing a reason for every stupid thread is probably an unrealistic idea.

    You just like to complain to try to stir up a riot and to get attention. Is it really a bad thing if people dont give you all of their attention? You act like the moderators are here JUST for you. That we live and breathe this forum just to make it a great place for you to live.
    I've never been a mod, but being a regular at Japanese language boards for a long time, I symphathize with the moderators in that respect. It's not like we're paid to do this and people bombard us with triple and quadruple posts of "hei how du u sai i luv u in jap? pls rply sooon" and zoom off without a please or a thanks. You have your lives to live, and it's not like you have an obligation to us. I understand that. But I'd like to remind you all that a forum is a community. We wouldn't be here if it weren't for the moderators, but the forum wouldn't be here if it weren't for the users (I myself am totally out of work due to the recent inactivity at the Japanese boards here... which is why I'm killing my time here in the first place >.>). The original poster was articulate and reasonably polite; from what I've seen I don't think it merited that kind of response.

    The bottom line is, I also I feel the issue raised is legitimate, but I see where both sides are coming from and I can't think of a good solution either (more mods? new features? I don't know). I'm just hoping for a civilized discussion. Sorry if I offended anyone, it was not my intention ^.^;

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    I opened up about 5 random topics up and someone just deletes them like that. I mean like WTH. I hate these mods.
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    Well I'll toss in a bit here myself O_o;

    One of the reasons I (and some of the mods) do not always post a closing reason, is because it bumps the thread. If I am going to close five threads, I don't necessarily want to move them all to the top of misc, bumping down the threads people are still talking in.

    As for the "post and leave" problem, well yes, a lot of the threads in misc fall under that, and that is not good. We obviously can't just close them all (despite the temptation), so the ones that stand out as even less likely to evolve into a conversation, or where the thread is nothing more than a pointless poll (What sort of IM do you use, Do you like to eat ____, Have you been rejected, etc) where there won't be any discussion past "yes", "no", "I use ___" and so on are ones that get closed first.

    Also if I open up Misc and see five threads posted by the same person within a few minutes of each other that are all pointless poll type threads, I will close or delete all of them in one shot. For example, within a span of six minutes a user (who just posted here while I was replying) posted the following threads:

    *Once you die,...
    *Whats your dream pet?
    *What languages do you want to learn?
    *What do you want your fish to say?

    Thats not trying to have a discussion, thats trying to up your post count, and cluttering up the forum even more. Next time you do that, I will suspend you for a week, and limit your posting to once per day. Don't open up random topics, especially if you know thats what they are. If you have nothing useful to say or post about, don't post anything at all.

    Pointing out other threads that haven't been closed at the time of your posting doesn't help much either, because some of them haven't been closed only because a mod hasn't seen them yet.

    You can always PM a mod, or PM all three Misc mods at once to ask them about it.

    Anyway I am in Japan right now, so my online time is a bit limited, and a bit erratic, but I'll keep an eye on this thread when I can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by (_YvOnSo_) View Post
    I opened up about 5 random topics up and someone just deletes them like that. I mean like WTH. I hate these mods.
    ...

    Hm, now, I wonder if it's a conspiracy against you?
     
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    As for myself, I don't see why you should care if some topics were closed. They weren't yours in the first place, so the only person who -may- have the right to complain is the thread starter himself. Boo-hoo, you didn't get your opinion out; there's a reason the moderators allowed blogs on AF in the first place, I'm guessing.
    If you're not content with simply getting your opinion out, then I can nearly agree with Ai when she says you're only looking for attention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaitou Ace View Post
    Well I'll toss in a bit here myself O_o;

    One of the reasons I (and some of the mods) do not always post a closing reason, is because it bumps the thread. If I am going to close five threads, I don't necessarily want to move them all to the top of misc, bumping down the threads people are still talking in.

    As for the "post and leave" problem, well yes, a lot of the threads in misc fall under that, and that is not good. We obviously can't just close them all (despite the temptation), so the ones that stand out as even less likely to evolve into a conversation, or where the thread is nothing more than a pointless poll (What sort of IM do you use, Do you like to eat ____, Have you been rejected, etc) where there won't be any discussion past "yes", "no", "I use ___" and so on are ones that get closed first.

    Also if I open up Misc and see five threads posted by the same person within a few minutes of each other that are all pointless poll type threads, I will close or delete all of them in one shot. For example, within a span of six minutes a user (who just posted here while I was replying) posted the following threads:

    *Once you die,...
    *Whats your dream pet?
    *What languages do you want to learn?
    *What do you want your fish to say?

    Thats not trying to have a discussion, thats trying to up your post count, and cluttering up the forum even more. Next time you do that, I will suspend you for a week, and limit your posting to once per day. Don't open up random topics, especially if you know thats what they are. If you have nothing useful to say or post about, don't post anything at all.

    Pointing out other threads that haven't been closed at the time of your posting doesn't help much either, because some of them haven't been closed only because a mod hasn't seen them yet.

    You can always PM a mod, or PM all three Misc mods at once to ask them about it.

    Anyway I am in Japan right now, so my online time is a bit limited, and a bit erratic, but I'll keep an eye on this thread when I can.
    Oh. Im very sorry. I just like to make threads like these a lot.
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