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    I've just been wondering; with the current situations in Iraq, and Afghanistan, what do you think Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton or John McCain will do if any of them get elected? Do you think they'll see it as pointless, and pull the troops out, or make them stay there for a while longer?
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    The situation in Iraq isn't as good as the situation in Iraf, but it is improving I believe all 3 candidates will stay in Iraq and try to get the troops in Iraf to go to Iraq.
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    Are you kidding? I hope so. Cause I don't like your idea one bit!

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    Hillary Clinton's already screeched about withdrawal. So that's one answer there. Barack's too full of himself, so I don't give him the pleasure of my attention, and McCain--he's been in the shadows so much due to Hillary and Obama being...well, themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leorina View Post
    Hillary Clinton's already screeched about withdrawal. So that's one answer there. Barack's too full of himself, so I don't give him the pleasure of my attention, and McCain--he's been in the shadows so much due to Hillary and Obama being...well, themselves.

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    I say, whoever it is who wins, the troops will stay there for a little while longer

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    The troops will never leave. They will be there until they are finished, and since their actual goal is undefined, how can they ever -be- finished? It is perpetual war. Why? Because it was a stupid mistake to invade Iraq. And whoever pulls out admits that America makes mistakes, and loses face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aizmov View Post
    Wrong! End of the world will be in 2038, that is when the UNIX servers running everything from the Internet to prison gates reset to 1901
    I think the world will end a few billion years from now when the sun completes its life cycle following the red giant phase then intense thermal pulsations will cause the Sun to throw off its outer layers, forming a planetary nebula. The only object that will remain after the outer layers are off is the extremely hot core, which will slowly cool and fade as a white dwarf planet over many billions of years.

    Anyways, on topic...I think the war is a bit rediculous...though I guess I can see why people want troops in Iraq. It's just the fact that the number of people dying is sad. Though, more than anything I just want troops to restore and help Iraq, then leave, because for the past 6 years, all I hear every day on the news is the Iraq war. I don't want this war to last 50+ years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. Dr. M.D. M.P. Eris
    And whoever pulls out admits that America makes mistakes, and loses face.
    It isn't like America didn't already do that during the Vietnam War, and arguably during the Korean War before that.

    Though yeah, America has made a silly habit of getting involved in places where we don't belong. We should probably stop doing that.

    EDIT: Oh, and I think McCain is the only hopeful who adamantly wants to remain there. Either of the democratic candidates have a decent chance of withdrawling, or at least attempting to withdrawl, the troops at some point during their candidacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legend Saber View Post
    It isn't like America didn't already do that during the Vietnam War, and arguably during the Korean War before that.
    America really can't afford more of these fiascoes. Politically it looks really, really bad. Making a mistake once is one thing, repeating it over and over again is an entirely different thing.



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    To answer the original question:

    Obama has said that he would put together a group to start thinking about pulling out of Iraq on his first day as president, and that he would try to begin withdrawing troops steadly by the time he has been in office for 2 months.

    Clinton has made no firm statement about exactly what she would do, other than that she supports the withdrawal, and like Obama, would like to begin withdrawing troops by the time she has been in office for two months.

    McCain has been consistently pro-war, often siding with president Bush on how it's being handled and how it should be handled, and has said that he would stay in Iraq for 100 years if it was necessary to win.

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    It looks sunny in Iraq.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amray View Post
    It looks sunny in Iraq.
    Yeah, but the real estate values suck.
    Ehhh, I dunno if I'll stick around. We'll see.

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    Take it from someone who has been there and done that; we're not leaving that country anytime soon. The US Govt has invested way too much into Iraq (it's fixing to be investing me in it, again) to just drop it and leave my like a rented apartment. This is a house that's being completely rebuilt, but it's still in a bad neighborhood and thus we will have to wait for it to mature before we can let it go.

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    I do not like the war that is going on in Iraq. Leave the arabs alone.
    They are not terrorists. Ok. Well maybe some. But most of them just
    want to live life as they used to. In a calm, quiet and safe society.
    Where they say "Hello" to their neighbours as the kids walk home
    from school! Where nobody is hated or where nobody is the odd
    one out. World peace. Everybody wants that! Even the wickedly
    bad presidents! Like George.W.Bush, who started the war. But maybe
    he doesnt. Maybe he is just lieing! I remember the speech he gave
    when he was elected. Here is most of the lies:
    "I will promise to bring world peace to America and the world.
    I will promise a good society and community.
    I will promise no wars. From and to- As a matter of fact.
    You can trust me to be the best president of the United
    States Of America. I will make the Unite of the United
    States!"
    Lie no1: No wars. Heh. As if. And from and to. Nobody has
    attacked them yet. But he sure has attacked Iraq real bad. And
    the old presidents have too. Well, not Iraq- But Vietam and Korea!
    Lie no2: He does not make Unite in United States. I mean. I always
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    Lie no3: good society? hah. Im sure. America is 3rd on the "I want
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    In reference to your comment Xero, do you think that the Al Qaeda will still be as fanatical in 100 years, if John McCain makes troops stay there for that period of time?
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    I think Obama is the most likely to make a significant change in the way the war is being conducted. Hillary's campaign strategy has been to court more conservative, working class voters so she'll be less likely to make a significant change in the way the war is conducted. And McCain has pledged to stay there 100 years if necessary and if he changes his mind his party will lynch him.

    On the other hand, much as I personally hate the war, I don't think that even Obama is going to be able to totally end US involvment in Iraq. He'll be under tremendous pressure from the Republicans not to pull out, so he's facing a tough fight and will likely have to come up with some sort of compromise with the GOP...

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    I dont think the war will just dissipate once we elect a new president. Some of them are promising to pull out within 6 months, and that's just not possible. I don't know if they know anything about how many people we have over there, in numerous areas. It just would not be possible to get all of them out safely and secure in that amount of time.

    Me and my boyfriend were talking about it, and he's been to Iraq three times, he was even injured in Iraq. I'd believe what he's said far more than a politic who's most likely lying for votes. Everyone wants their boys and girls home safe, so whoever can give the public the most promising lie, wins.
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    Iraq = storage for U.S.A
    plus, direct routes to most non allied countrys...
    easy access if you know what i mean
    and its..... Theres no dam war there.!. its more like a hostile takeover..
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