Fate Stay Night!! mass abstract!!

**salar** · 03-04-2008 06:09 PM

This is the first a have ever tried this kind of style(mass abstract) and wanted to be abit creative.....
I realy wanna know ur opinions about this and also hear ur helpful advices so that I can improve my work........

Thx in advance..

**KuroTan** · 03-04-2008 08:42 PM

Not bad. I think you need to add a little more effects to Saber though; she looks too plain as it is. And maybe clean up the extraction a little.

**salar** · 03-04-2008 11:42 PM

ok...gonna work on it more....tought a clear sabar will be better but a bit more effects wont kill anybody....
THX......

**Hautalken** · 03-05-2008 03:38 AM

hey! you got the same brushes i do! anyway...kuro-tan's rite. you need to clean her up and blend her in more. try to color burn her or something. maybe hard-lite her. or just add more glow to her.

Its great though. I couldn't do anything like it. even if i tried, it would turn out so bad i'd have to discard it!

**salar** · 03-05-2008 07:40 AM

what a admirable modesty u have karuto ^^.......I'm currently working on it and changed many things..hope it turn out better

**salar** · 03-05-2008 09:49 AM

here....a new version of FSN wall......actually for the first wall i rushed abit...here added some new things and also changed somethings...
Tell me what u think???

**Hautalken** · 03-06-2008 12:26 AM

modesty?! oh yea...im a march-born. duh im gotta have modesty. hmm...i guess its ok now since you feathered her a little but whats the dark-saber extract doing there? it doesn't make much sense. if your submitting that to AW, then i guess thats what MuZ0NaZ would say too...(i think). ah whatever. its better but that dark-saber's making it look wierd. she doesn't fit in. the bg might be abstract but its also pretty delicate. she won't do. remove her. thats my advice...

**MuZ0NaZ** · 03-06-2008 12:51 PM

I like the first version of your wall quite more than the second. I don't think black saber is really needed there, though I like the softening of the effects.
edit: I just read what Karuto said and he's totally spot on.

**salar** · 03-06-2008 01:25 PM

ok....I'm doing some cleaing on it...I made to messy i guess and also adding some new effects....I guess that tutorial will be helpful here karuto_chan

**salar** · 03-06-2008 04:13 PM

here the last version(my head hurts)......changed many things and cleaned the wall and removed that dark_saber and also added new effects.

**Hautalken** · 03-06-2008 11:46 PM

Its turned out WAY better. Makes more sense too! Keep it up. How big is the file now?

**salar** · 03-07-2008 12:07 AM

51 layers....24mb PSD.....still I'm glad i didnt become bigger -_-"
without using that save for web feature the wall itself was about 1.5MB but thax to that option its now 540KB^^

**Hautalken** · 03-08-2008 04:16 AM

51 LAYERS???!!!! whoa! even i wouldn't go that far. i'd put them all in a group and keep merging stuff i don't need. it becomes difficult to manage. don't know how you did it.

**salar** · 03-08-2008 06:42 AM

usually all my walls exceed 45 layers...well managing them isnt hard,I'm used to it

**Mira Kaiba** · 03-09-2008 04:07 PM

Very nice wall, I really like the last version of the wall the best. The text is much better on this one than on the first. I also am glad that you got rid of the second Saber - she wasn't relly necessary. The effects are much better on Saber on the latest wall. Great job! ^^

**Cantelope** · 03-10-2008 04:59 PM

I'll be completely honest with you. You've got a quality set of brushes, but I feel like you didn't use them in the best way. All I see is this big CLASH on your wallpaper between the top half of the background, the lower half, and the stock. Personally, I preferred the what-seems-to-be fractal brushes not radial blurred/polar coordinated (but that's only because I'm a big fan of sharpness). The massive amount of line work from the circular "aura" you've got going on behind Saber gives off the feel of a lot of energy --but the bottom half clashes this with a soft white cloud effect, with a few curved tendrils here and there (phoenix brush pack from dA?) that emanates a more calm majestic mood. The stock was only really a problem on your first and second renditions though, when you had the "aura" un-blurred. Again the issue was with the "aura" giving off an extremely energetic feel, but saber doesn't look like she's doing anything really intense with this particular stock image. It looks more like she's just doing a pretty pose (which fits more with the "majestic" bottom half of the background in my opinion). To a lesser extent, the brushed in series of dots are far too eye grabbing. They're not really evenly distributed throughout the whole canvas, and are very very noticeable. I suggest changing layer blending mode to overlay or something to make it blend in more with the wallpaper instead of sticking out like a sore thumb. Oh yeah, and I know this ticks off every digital artist: I don't like the font.

Other than how I feel about conflicting moods in the piece, I definitely like color choices. Even though purple and blue are next to each other on the color wheel, balance was maintained well, and both blend into each other very smoothly. Feels like I'm staring at cotton candy! I'm also finding myself partial to the bubbles; although I feel they're too prominent. They needs to be more of a background visual instead of a foreground element like it is currently. It is certainly an interesting (in a good way) addition!

So...I'd say....maybe a 8.3-ish out of 10 in my opinion. Quality work here, but only a few shortcomings that can be kept an eye out for in your later works keep it from getting a 9 in my book.

Keep up the good work!

**salar** · 03-10-2008 05:58 PM

that was a long and realy helpful advice my friend..since this is my first try of this style go easy on me abit and unfortunately i have already deleted the psd(accidently) so cant edit the wall.....anyway I will keep what u said in mind and will try to do better on my next work^^..