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    You again .. =.=

    Most of the people are thinking about suicide because their life seems so misreable to them / they just broke up / someone close died.

    I have yet to meet someone who think "Now I've done everything I can, so I'll take my life, but oh wait let me post a whiny message on the internet first".
    People act too much on their emotions, that's why our society is going down step by step. : |
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    I think it's both. It depends on the person. People not doing it for attention will most likely not tell anyone they are considering it. They would not want anyone to try and stop them if they were to try.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaos Proxy
    Most of the people are thinking about suicide because their life seems so misreable to them / they just broke up / someone close died.
    ... and you've a non-anecdotal basis for this?

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    "Now I've done everything I can, so I'll take my life, but oh wait let me post a whiny message on the internet first".
    Which is assuming that every single person who commits suicide first talks about it on the Internet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaos Proxy
    People act too much on their emotions, that's why our society is going down step by step.
    You act as if humans are just now starting to act on their emotions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legend Saber

    ... and you've a non-anecdotal basis for this?
    Was I wrong? I don't think so.
    People with good lives do not tend to think suicidal.

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    Which is assuming that every single person who commits suicide first talks about it on the Internet.
    What makes you think so? But those who are sayng these things on the internet hope someone gives a damn.

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    You act as if humans are just now starting to act on their emotions.
    And humans are imperfect in so many ways, acting on their emotions is a proof of that.

    Seriously, stop trolling now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaos Proxy
    Was I wrong? I don't think so.
    What about willful martyrdom, samurai seppuku, the Spartan forces at Battle of Thermopylae, the Japanese kamikaze pilots of World War II, Thich Quang Duc (and the Buddhists that followed his lead), suicide bombers, and the host of other people who commit suicide for practical, honorable, or reasons other than misery?

    They're quite plentiful, especially throughout history.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaos Proxy
    People with good lives do not tend to think suicidal.
    So long as you admit that not everyone commits suicide for such reasons. But, I guess you also kind of said that in your second post. So ... I guess we agree. >_>

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaos Proxy
    What makes you think so?
    Your comment seemed to imply that the majority of people who commit suicide first announce it on the Internet. Which ... isn't true.

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    But those who are sayng these things on the internet hope someone gives a damn.
    I agree.

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    And humans are imperfect in so many ways, acting on their emotions is a proof of that.
    True, but no one was ever claiming humans are perfect. I didn't, anyway. <_<;

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaos Proxy
    Seriously, stop trolling now.
    I probably could've worded myself better, but I don't think it was really 'trolling.'

    Wanna' continue this through another PM? ^_^;;

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legend Saber

    What about willful martyrdom, samurai seppuku, the Spartan forces at Battle of Thermopylae, the Japanese kamikaze pilots of World War II, Thich Quang Duc (and the Buddhists that followed his lead), suicide bombers, and the host of other people who commit suicide for practical, honorable, or reasons other than misery?

    They're quite plentiful, especially throughout history.
    And how many of these seeked attention or help? They had reason(s) to do it, while common whiners want to take their own life because it sucks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Legend Saber
    So long as you admit that not everyone commits suicide for such reasons. But, I guess you also kind of said that in your second post. So ... I guess we agree. >_>
    Yup. :]

    Quote Originally Posted by Legend Saber
    Your comment seemed to imply that the majority of people who commit suicide first announce it on the Internet. Which ... isn't true.
    Hm, well as much as I've seen them people (usually teenagers) whine in forums how pathetic their lifes are and say they might kill themselves.
    Haven't met anyone suicidal in real life. :/

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    True, but no one was ever claiming humans are perfect. I didn't, anyway. <_<;
    Yeah..though we could try to be. :]

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    I probably could've worded myself better, but I don't think it was really 'trolling.'
    Well, I thought you were posting these answers to my posts because you wanted to bait me into emotional response. >.>

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    Wanna' continue this through another PM? ^_^;;
    Not at this time, I think & hope we're all clear now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaos Proxy
    They had reason(s) to do it, while common whiners want to take their own life because it sucks.
    I can agree with that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaos Proxy
    Hm, well as much as I've seen them people (usually teenagers) whine in forums how pathetic their lifes are and say they might kill themselves.
    Haven't met anyone suicidal in real life. :/
    Yep. It's been my experience that a lot of suicidal people keep their inclinations among themselves. I believe one study concluded that nearly 70% of suicides come completely out of the blue, and with nothing like a suicide paper or note left behind.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaos Proxy
    Well, I thought you were posting these answers to my posts because you wanted to bait me into emotional response. >.>
    Ah, I can see how that might have been construed. Sorry about that. ^_^

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Monarch View Post
    " I'm going to kill myself! Nobody is talking to me in Myspace!! " That'd just be LoL.



    Commiting Suicide is stupid, Even IF your friends died, make new ones? Don't make friends at all? Being depressed about it isn't going to help you. It's just going to made your dead friends sad if you don't get over it.

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    It always depends indeed..

    But a human who is suicidal is weak, pathetic and should kill him/herself, that's how I see these whiners.
    Do they really think someone is going to give a damn about them on the internet? I don't think so.
    WHAT....and I thought you would care for me...in any case people seem to be better at listening to strangers who have a different perspective for the one who is living in the same situation...so yeah...WHY¿?¿? WHY ME ?¿?¿?¿
    In any case, everybody have great points of view...is amazing everybody seems to say the same thing....cool...though my friend do not talk about suicide with me no more since I offer my help in the situation....
    She was like " If I find some thing I can cut my throat with, I will do here and now" and I was like "Ok....." we kept on walking and then I stopped suddenly and I was like "Hey, look I found a very sharp, here you can have it...see now you can pursue your goal" since then she never mention suicide to me. She was like " ARE YOU CRAZY...YOU WANT ME DEAD" and I was like "Oh, I just wanted to help...since you were on despair.. and I know that feeling " but in any case, that is why sometimes is good to repeat a loud what your friend is saying...it seems to work and sounds more crazy when hearing it from some one else...and more with such a positive out look to it.

    YAY... It appear that BOREDOM strikes quite often!!

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    I'm not condoning suicide here, but I do believe that there are certain situations where the reasons for a person wanting to kill themselves have nothing to do with getting attention from others.

    Killing oneself takes a heck of a lot of will power (a lot that I don't have... at this point...), and it also takes quite a mindset as well. It has to be very hard to get to such a state of the mind, and those that are actually serious about this most of the time are not the ones that are saying they are going to kill themselves are not doing it because their boyfriend just broke up with them, or something like that... There are far worse things than that, that would cause somebody to get to such a mindset.

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    It used to be a cry for help and in some cases today, it still is. Although, cutting and attempting suicide has become like one of today's hottest trends according to where I live. I don't really understand it myself, but it's like the domino theory. Once one person does it, other people will follow. As lies true in every other trend that's formed from the outside world and/or myspace (i.e. scene).

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    I would say that people mostly commit suicide because of depression, or because of being bullied, but there are some people who do it to gain attention.
    I know about five people who hate their lives for various reasons(and good reasons too), and they have tried to commit suicide.
    But I do know one person who has tried to commit suicide to gain attention.

    They were an outcast, not entirely of course, only so they were not the centre of attention. Anyway, they tried to, then bragged about it the next day. It was really obvious she/he wanted attention.
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    I think it could be for either reason. Definitely, it could be the person is fed up with life, or whatever. But even if someone is threatening to commit suicide for attention, I still don't think it should be completely dismissed. It could be that they have been really lonely or upset, and they want help and whatnot, but the only way they know how to get it is threatening to commit suicide. Not a great method, but -shrugs-. People have weird ways of dealing with things.

    Now, if they just want people to feel sorry for them, that's a different story...
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Monarch View Post
    " I'm going to kill myself! Nobody is talking to me in Myspace!! " That'd just be LoL.



    Commiting Suicide is stupid, Even IF your friends died, make new ones? Don't make friends at all? Being depressed about it isn't going to help you. It's just going to made your dead friends sad if you don't get over it.

    I'm sorry, I don't understand.
    Oh, my god.
    You get all uptight stick-up-the-rear about child abuse, how so much as touching a child is abuse, and then you post this? You make me sick. Your hypocrisy just proves what a shallow person you really are.



    As someone who has gone through the supposed "emo phase," I can tell you that, in a lot of instances, it is a cry for attention. You do get the occasional genuinely depressed person, though. They're the ones that drive off in the middle of the night without telling anyone.

    Also, whoever said that people who commit suicide are basically forwarding natural selection: A lot of highly intelligent people are the ones who suffer from depression.
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    Here's my opinion.

    If you want to kill yourself, and you have enough sense to tell someone to get help, you deserve to live!
    If you dont want to kill yourself, and you tell people you're going to kill yourself for attention, you deserve to die!

    I've known kids who've faked their suicides, and I had a really good friend actually commit suicide last december. I can honestly say, that because so many people previously lied or had others lie about them killing themselves, I STILL find it hard to believe my friend Aaron is gone. The obituary in the paper aside, I refused to go to his funeral. I couldn't handle it emotionally, and secretly I thought I was going to be a huge "HA HA, Brody fell for it! I'm not dead!" I just couldn't deal with the reality of his death, and I was praying for it to be all a big lie.

    I just wish he had told someone, anyone. Even me.
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    If a friend dies why not live for the both of you? Instead of letting your emotions get the upper hand of you and you try to join your lost friend through suicide, why not just remember you still have other friends that care and also a family that care. Suicide is quite a selfish act that just brings even more sadness. Also I don't think that the person that they have lost from Death would want you to kill yourself for the sake of them.
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    You know, Slavoj Zizek once remarked in a documentary that people should take an analysis before committing suicide, sort of like a mental fitness exam before you can become an astronaut: is it a brief case of mental disorder, an emotional crisis, or a purely aesthetical act? If it's the last case, then the person should be allowed to pursue his choice in peace. Not that I'm endorsing that view or anything, it simply crossed my mind.

    I can almost say for a fact that everybody has thought of suicide at some point in their life or another. What's strange to me are the people who still think the thought (or act) still retains some sort of glamor, or is somehow an unique act. Like young people talking endlessly about sex - I mean, everyone does it at one point or another. Nothing to see there.

    But to finally answer your question, I don't think you can ever really explain why people commit suicide. Or cut their wrists. Some people just, do it. Others can look afterwards and slap a reason on it: it was for attention, or the person had a bad childhood, or whatnot. But in the end, in most cases except when the reason is the most blatantly obvious, I don't think even the person in question can know. Because death is inherently incomprehensible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XxTaintedxX View Post
    What do you think?
    Do you think Suicide or threatening to kill yourself is asking for attention
    or because you can't take it anymore?
    The pressure of life or just because your lonely?

    I think people can be stressed out and can't handle the pressure and cruelty of life...
    You also can't say that someone can be a poser when they can have their own amount or type of pressure that they can't handle...
    Everyone reacts differently, thinks differently, and yet still all the same...

    So what do you think??
    I and I'm sure many others would appreciate it if you'd make your questions a little clearer.. but I guess I'll do with what I can understand.
    Quote Originally Posted by XxTaintedxX View Post
    Do you think Suicide is asking for attention or because you can't take it anymore?

    Suicide would not be asking for attention, what attention is useful after your dead. Unless of course your a terrorist, or somthing along those lines. Because you "can't take it anymore", the cause of some suicides, yes, but there are many others as well.
    Quote Originally Posted by XxTaintedxX View Post
    Do you think threatening to kill yourself is asking for attention or because you can't take it anymore?
    If "threatening" to kill yourself is asking for attention, then your not going to kill yourself. Threatening to kill yourself because you "can't take it anymore", whats the point in threatening if you can't take it anymore.

    I dont thing just being lonly is a strong enough stand-alone reason to cause one to kill ones self.
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    my understanding for people who consider suicide is that they are psychologically unballanced, as simple as that.
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    Hmm. Honestly it goes both ways. It depends rather on the person and the situation. Yet everyone deals with everything in a different manner, and thinks differently of the situation.

    Like...if someone is going through an extreme case of abuse, then I can see the reason why suicide would seem 'appealing'

    But if it's something like you and your significant other were dating for two days, and then you just break it off because it isn't working out right, I then would say that is a 'pay attention to me' type of threat to suicide.

    But that's just my opinion.

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    I wrote already, but I will write a little more.
    Mental illness seems to be on the rise especially in Western culture. Why is this? This world is so high tech and high paced, there is war, etc. Even watching the news is depressing. I don't bother hardly watching it anymore.

    Stress is at an all time high as well as unemployment and homelessness. Our gas prices are so sky high we cannot even afford to go anywhere.
    It is insane thus I am sure that every little thing adds into the whole mindset of giving up on life. Some people just grow weak and tired of living. Some people feel that they are not worth anything and get into the mindset. There can be so many reasons but there are not always solutions. One thing that will drive a person to want to die before anything else is untreated pain or unrelenting pain if treated. I am talking physical here even though anguish also has been known as a catalyst for suicidal ideation. Certain medical conditions like Lupus can effect neurological functioning and cause a person to have depressive and suicidal symptoms. Multiple Sclerosis can do this as well. Even electrolyte disorders can make you go nuts ...and I know this personally. When you try to get help, and help is not there...then what. Maybe that is why some people cry out for help or make idle threats. I think it is wrong to threaten such things but if someone is not in their right mind I would hope that someone was there to care enough to get them help. Those who threaten and turn it into a game...I have an issue with that because of my Mom. It was a living nightmare growing up. Parents can pass those behaviors down to their children as well. Sorry to get off on a tangent. It is just messed up all the way around.





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