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    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    That is dubious reasoning. What of the people who were on the other side of the planet when Jesus was crusified. Do they also deserve hell for merely being the same species as the romans? And let's not forget the people born two thousand years later? How are they even remotely involved?
    The Romans are not the ones who mad us worthy of a life in Hell. I have the same beliefs as Gaara's True Girlfriend. The reason we ALL deserve Hell is because of Adam of Eve, when they ae of the frut of the knowledge of good ad evil. That is how sin came into the world (it is in the first few chapters of Genesis), and because we are all descendents of Adam and Eve, we are all born sinners, that is te reason why Jesus had to die for us.

    Quote Originally Posted by Manhattan_Project_2000 View Post
    Don't forget all the people who died before Jesus came around to save them. Moses is rotting in hell because he didn't Accept Jesus Christ As His Personal Savior™.
    The Bible says (although I can't recall the exactverse at the moment, I wl ost it later) Jesus wnt into Hell and freed all of its prisoners,tat is what he was doing the three days before He rose from the dead.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ritsu View Post
    I'd prolly go to Heaven...I have a question...If you dont go to chruch are you going to hell?
    If so....YUS. :3 Hell might beh more interesting then heaven will be...Actually I just wonna float around as a ghost on earth...is that possible? =X
    Church does not define who goes to Heaven an wo doesn't. There are people who d go to church, but don't believe, and vice versa, if you don't believe you won't o to Heaven.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    More importantly, Jesus must be roting in hell because he didn't Accept Himself As His Personal Savior™.
    If that is supposed to be a joke....not funny

    Quote Originally Posted by K.F View Post
    And... Jesus is not in Hell, because He NEVER sinned.

    Everyone sinned, except Him, so we needed someone perfect and sinless to take our place.
    Exactly, theJes had to sacrifice te purest lamb that they had in order to be forgiven ofteir sins.Because Jesus was pure ad sinless, which is why we no longer need to sacrifice lambs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Assassin of Konoha View Post
    If that is supposed to be a joke....not funny
    Ha ha, I'm just being serious.

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    I actually find it interesting to read everyone's posts about this, so please carry on.

    As for me, I haven't read the Bible nor do I go to church. Do I believe in Jesus? To some point, but probably not to the extent in what Christians do.

    Am I going to hell? Maybe. Is there hell? Maybe. Guess I'll find out when I die. Maybe the afterlife is just like this life.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raidou Kuzunoha View Post

    Am I going to hell? Maybe. Is there hell? Maybe. Guess I'll find out when I die. Maybe the afterlife is just like this life.
    I agree with this sentiment. We cannot truly know until we die.
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    As my "Location" states in my profile, I'm already IN Hell.

    Sooo..I have a seat right next to Big Red (Satan) that has a "Reserved for the retard who flunked at life" sign on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaara's True Girlfriend View Post
    ok, let me just say first of all, I am going to Heaven and I have no doubt about that. I know this because I believe in the Lord Jesus Christ as my personal Savior. There is a Heaven and a Hell, and believe me my friends, you don't wanna go to Hell. If you think Earth is Hell, then Hell itself will be millions of times worse than this. The Bible says that it will be eternal suffering and that you will be tossed into a lake of fire for all eternity. Heaven, Hell, they are both VERY real.
    What if I don't believe in Jesus?
    There is a lot of people who don't, I'm one of them.
    If you speak the truth, and I highly doubt that!
    Then I'm bound to goto Hell and loop their indefinitely, or until a register overflows and I'm out of there

    Quote Originally Posted by Assassin of Konoha
    The Bible says (although I can't recall the exactverse at the moment, I wl ost it later) Jesus wnt into Hell and freed all of its prisoners,tat is what he was doing the three days before He rose from the dead.
    OMG a Zombie! And you expect us to believe the work of fiction aka the Bible!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Future_Defense View Post
    I agree with this sentiment. We cannot truly know until we die.
    But once your dead and dissolved back to basic atoms and molecules there is no chance that you'll find out!
    Last edited by Aizmov; 01-26-2008 at 02:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aizmov View Post
    But once your dead and dissolved back to basic atoms and molecules there is no chance that you'll find out!
    If the religions are correct, then we'll know we (the athiest/agnostic crowd) were wrong. If we're right, we won't know it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Future_Defense View Post
    If the religions are correct, then we'll know we (the athiest/agnostic crowd) were wrong. If we're right, we won't know it.
    Their are many reports of people that have been pronounced clinically dead and have come back to life. Some even fully recall their out of body experience after death, and it was proven that it wasn't just a creation of the mind because they could see the time, and describe things going on in other rooms of the hospital. But they do not recall anything like hell, heaven, or anything religion related. They just felt they were free to do anything they liked. Like they had ultimate freedom.
    "Truth, joy, and love. The three are interchangeable"

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    heheh hope it's hell. I like the the fact that they say it's hot n it's dark. (I think it'll be great). Still working on my sinns to get there. Go HELL!!!! ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Totsean View Post
    Their are many reports of people that have been pronounced clinically dead and have come back to life. Some even fully recall their out of body experience after death, and it was proven that it wasn't just a creation of the mind because they could see the time, and describe things going on in other rooms of the hospital. But they do not recall anything like hell, heaven, or anything religion related. They just felt they were free to do anything they liked. Like they had ultimate freedom.
    That mostly to them actually being still alive! Not coming back from death!

    If anything it shows us that medicine has a long way to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Totsean View Post
    Their are many reports of people that have been pronounced clinically dead and have come back to life. Some even fully recall their out of body experience after death, and it was proven that it wasn't just a creation of the mind because they could see the time, and describe things going on in other rooms of the hospital. But they do not recall anything like hell, heaven, or anything religion related. They just felt they were free to do anything they liked. Like they had ultimate freedom.
    To be pronounced dead doesn't mean we are totally dead. Our cells live for three days after we are 'clinicly' dead. It is possible that our "minds" (or souls, if you will) can live without the body.
    However, it isn't "proof" that they had an out of body experience, but it is interesting. Also, could they see other "dead" people, or were they alone? Doesn't seem like total freedom to me if you're alone for eternity.
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