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    I'd prolly go to Heaven...I have a question...If you dont go to chruch are you going to hell?
    If so....YUS. :3 Hell might beh more interesting then heaven will be...Actually I just wonna float around as a ghost on earth...is that possible? =X
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritsu View Post
    I'd prolly go to Heaven...I have a question...If you dont go to chruch are you going to hell?
    If so....YUS. :3 Hell might beh more interesting then heaven will be...Actually I just wonna float around as a ghost on earth...is that possible? =X
    If you take the standard assortment of precepts believed by Modern Christianity a priori then all you need to do is Accept Jesus Christ As Your Personal Savior And Ask His Forgiveness™.
    Ehhh, I dunno if I'll stick around. We'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manhattan_Project_2000 View Post
    Don't forget all the people who died before Jesus came around to save them. Moses is rotting in hell because he didn't Accept Jesus Christ As His Personal Savior™.
    More importantly, Jesus must be roting in hell because he didn't Accept Himself As His Personal Savior™.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manhattan_Project_2000 View Post
    Don't forget all the people who died before Jesus came around to save them. Moses is rotting in hell because he didn't Accept Jesus Christ As His Personal Savior™.
    I seem to recall hearing something like: Jesus went to Hell and freed the people who didn't know about him but had been redeemed? I am not sure this is true, since I haven't read the bible completely, can someone lmk if I'm totally wrong?

    EDIT: I'm agnostic, so I haven't been to church since I was around 4 years old.
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    If you go to church, but you're not a Christian, then you will go to Hell.

    And before Jesus was born, you had to be a Jew to get to heaven, but then God decided there should be a better way. It's a bit complicated unless you have a background in it lol.

    Before Jesus: Jews go to heaven
    After Jesus: Christians go to heaven

    And... Jesus is not in Hell, because He NEVER sinned.

    Everyone sinned, except Him, so we needed someone perfect and sinless to take our place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manhattan_Project_2000 View Post
    If you take the standard assortment of precepts believed by Modern Christianity a priori then all you need to do is Accept Jesus Christ As Your Personal Savior And Ask His Forgiveness™.
    Oh I see.. Well I dont think I will beg for forgivness...Just to go to heaven..Unless its something that I want to do.
    But thx for your help xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by K.F View Post
    And before Jesus was born, you had to be a Jew to get to heaven, but then God decided there should be a better way. It's a bit complicated unless you have a background in it lol.

    Before Jesus: Jews go to heaven
    After Jesus: Christians go to heaven
    Jews don't have a afterlife. The "Jews go to Heaven" is an apologist retcon to explain why Yahweh sent 48,000 years worth of people to hell for not believing in a guy he had created yet. Even then, Jews came about in 6000 B.C, so even with that concept, he'd still send about 42,000 years worth of people to hell.
    Ehhh, I dunno if I'll stick around. We'll see.

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    The Earth is like 4,000 - 6,000 years old anyway. "Millions of years" has not been proven at all.
    Last edited by K.F; 01-26-2008 at 12:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K.F View Post
    If you go to church, but you're not a Christian, then you will go to Hell.

    And before Jesus was born, you had to be a Jew to get to heaven, but then God decided there should be a better way. It's a bit complicated unless you have a background in it lol.

    Before Jesus: Jews go to heaven
    After Jesus: Christians go to heaven

    And... Jesus is not in Hell, because He NEVER sinned.
    But all this is basically the word of John. And, if you ask me, John seems like a bit of a megalomaniac and not just a little bit fishy. Before John, Christianity was just a small cult-of-personality quitely minding their own beeswax. Nothing bad about that, probably merited. Really, look at the history of Christianity objectively. After John, stuff started going down the drain. He basically laid the groundwork of the whole corrupt church-thing we have today.

    Quote Originally Posted by K.F View Post
    The Earth is like 4,000 - 6,000 years old anyway
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    To go to Heaven or Hell...Well it depends what people do their WHOLE lives now what they have done so far...but me it's a hard choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K.F View Post
    lol... some people are just plain stupid

    Manhattan guy, I'm not a Bible expert, ask someone who is. I'm only 15 you know...
    So people are stupid if they don't have the same faith as you? Who was that directed at?
    Why should I believe in Christianity when Islam, Buddhism, and Hinduism are also offering "answers"?
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    You don't go to Heaven by being a "good" person you know... otherwise we would all go to Hell

    And they're stupid because they are not beliving what they have to belive if they don't want to burn for all eternity.

    Christianity is not a religion btw. A religion is based on "works".
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    Except that this is your belief! Just because you believe it is right does not make the rest of the world wrong. You may believe the rest of us are going to burn, but I see no proof. Repeating the same thing over and over does not make you right.
    If I wanted to start a flame war, I would do what Eris did at you K.F, because we have pretty good proof that the earth is older than 6,000 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by K.F View Post
    Christianity is not a religion btw. A religion is based on "works".
    Of course it isn't, it's a jewish sect.

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    Again... the Earth has not been proven to be over 6,000 years old... *Yawn*

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    Quote Originally Posted by K.F View Post
    Christianity is not a religion btw. A religion is based on "works".

    What?
    Also "The oldest rocks which have been found so far (on the Earth) date to about 3.8 to 3.9 billion years ago (by several radiometric dating methods). Some of these rocks are sedimentary, and include minerals which are themselves as old as 4.1 to 4.2 billion years. Rocks of this age are relatively rare, however rocks that are at least 3.5 billion years in age have been found on North America, Greenland, Australia, Africa, and Asia.




    Religion
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    1.a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

    2.a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.

    3.the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.

    4.the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.

    5.the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.

    6.something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by K.F View Post
    And they're stupid because they are not beliving what they have to belive if they don't want to burn for all eternity.
    I have to believe because you tell me I'll go to hell if I don't.

    You are good at this.

    Christianity is not a religion btw. A religion is based on "works".
    Main Entry: re·li·gion
    Pronunciation: \ri-ˈli-jən\
    Function: noun
    Etymology: Middle English religioun, from Anglo-French religiun, Latin religion-, religio supernatural constraint, sanction, religious practice, perhaps from religare to restrain, tie back — more at rely
    Date: 13th century
    1 a: the state of a religious <a nun in her 20th year of religion> b (1): the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2): commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
    2: a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices
    3archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness
    4: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith
    Ehhh, I dunno if I'll stick around. We'll see.

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    Do I care about your defenition? Christianity is not a religion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by K.F View Post
    Again... the Earth has not been proven to be over 6,000 years old... *Yawn*
    Neither has it been "proven" to be less that 6 million years old. Or more then a moment.
    Ehhh, I dunno if I'll stick around. We'll see.

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    ? You speak English yes? So what is your problem with those definitions K.F?
    It's not like we're going to be able to sway your opinion, but neither are you going to sway ours, so why are we arguing?
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    True... I'll try to find out for you though.


    Oh, I'm going out in a bit, so post whatever you like :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Future_Defense View Post
    ? You speak English yes? So what is your problem with those definitions K.F?
    It's not like we're going to be able to sway your opinion, but neither are you going to sway ours, so why are we arguing?
    Well, I am arguing because it is fun- it reinforces my personal philosophy win, lose, or draw.
    Ehhh, I dunno if I'll stick around. We'll see.

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    Yeah... this needs to get closed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K.F View Post
    Yeah... this needs to get closed.
    Because it's not going your way...?

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