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    Default Why did Shinji masturbate over Asuka in the movie?

    In "End of Evengelion" Shinji masturbates over Asuka's comatose body. Is there any meaning to this, why he does it?
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    Anno commenting on certain unhealthy aspects of Otaku Culture, and at the same time an insight into Shinji and Asuka's relationship from Shinji's point of view.
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    Oh, and here I thought it was about men only thinking with their wang.

    Just kidding though. Thats a deep anime that makes you think on so many levels. What just seems like a perverted act can have a much deeper feeling. Plus add in Shinji's repressed sex drive. He's so afraid of being rejected he'd never make an attempt to sleep with anyone. So when he sees Asuka, laying there, so beautiful, so pure, and no for him to be rejected...Its disgusting, but you have to feel sorry for the kid. He might die before he ever even sleeps with a girl.

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    Well... I HATE Shinji and when he does that... well... ^^U In my opinion it was, no a dramatic or filosofical scene, but a really disgusting moment where you see how weak and how stupid is Ikari Shinji!!!

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    You are right that he's weak. He seems to spend every second going "FATHER! I don't want to pilot. I don't want to be depended on. I'm worthless. FATHER!"

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    but dont you like shinji when he goes nut's and kill enemies like a bloody demon.

    there is one episode in which his eva. go berserk yet it seems to be controled by shinji's emotions in which his eva looses an arm but he cuts the angel and uses a part of it and connects it to himself as his arms and his eva eat the freakin angel. @_@

    (umm did i wrote everythin correctly it was so long ago when i watched it)


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    You had it right. But I'm not sure if it was his emotions that time, I thought he was unconscious and the angel that was inside the EVA was unleashed. Not really sure, been awhile for me too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saracin View Post
    and the angel that was inside the EVA was unleashed.
    Angel?? I'm sorry but did I miss an episode or something?
    For there nothing good or bad but thinking makes it so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ligno View Post
    and how stupid is Ikari Shinji!!!
    How does that make him stupid? Most males with access to pornography have done essentially the same deed, are they stupid too?
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    Yes he did. He's 14. He's just entering manhood. Asuka is the only woman figure in his life. Rei is a motherly figure. There.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El-ahrairah View Post
    Angel?? I'm sorry but did I miss an episode or something?
    Sorry, might be a little off. The Eva's were clones of the first angel, Adam, so in a sense they themselves are angels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El-ahrairah View Post
    Angel?? I'm sorry but did I miss an episode or something?
    Unit 01 is made from the angel Lillith and Shinji's mother. Wikipedia says this is mentioned in the "deleted scenes" (Directors's Cut?) of Episode 23.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_%...lion%29#Lilith
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    bottom line is Shinji is weak unit 01 eats the angel because he is a human and he gets crazy when the great Shinji is unconscious asuka is hot and he is a boy.

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    Yeah remember all Eva's need a soul and Unit 1's is Shinji's mum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saracin View Post
    Sorry, might be a little off. The Eva's were clones of the first angel, Adam, so in a sense they themselves are angels.
    I see where you're coming from, but following the same thought, humans would also be considered angels, as they were created from Lilith. And if everyone's an angel, doesn't it loose the value?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manhattan_Project_2000 View Post
    Unit 01 is made from the angel Lillith and Shinji's mother. Wikipedia says this is mentioned in the "deleted scenes" (Directors's Cut?) of Episode 23.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_%...lion%29#Lilith
    In the subbed version of one of the last episodes, Gendo calls unit 01 "Yui", also theres alot of hints in the series, such as in episode one, unit one saving Shinji. Yet another thing they say at some point in the series is that Yui was absorbed into unit 01.
    For there nothing good or bad but thinking makes it so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfenstain2k7 View Post
    bottom line is Shinji is weak unit 01 eats the angel because he is a human and he gets crazy when the great Shinji is unconscious asuka is hot and he is a boy.

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    Well back onto the topic, you could see it as the people here have previously mentioned. It could be a sign of his sexual repression, and of his fear of rejection. Though I wouldn't think of Shinji as being an otaku, I'm sure many other Japanese men would love to be in his place and do exactly what he did...

    I mean, it's Asuka!

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    That is a REALLY good question! I remember the first time I saw that i was so disgusted and creeped out by it, but when you think about it he was a sexually repressed 14 year old. I mean everyone has sexual urges and whatnot and maybe he thought he was going to die and that the world was ending and said "hell with it!" or maybe since she was unconscious he took it as an opportunity to play out his fantasies that he didn't think would ever come true without actually having to involve her. Or maybe he's sadistic and her mangled body excited him so much that he couldn't contain it. It's hard to say really because he's such a troubled characters, they're all troubled really. But Shinji's REALLY got problems! Lol!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stenchgirl View Post
    That is a REALLY good question! I remember the first time I saw that i was so disgusted and creeped out by it, but when you think about it he was a sexually repressed 14 year old. I mean everyone has sexual urges and whatnot and maybe he thought he was going to die and that the world was ending and said "hell with it!" or maybe since she was unconscious he took it as an opportunity to play out his fantasies that he didn't think would ever come true without actually having to involve her. Or maybe he's sadistic and her mangled body excited him so much that he couldn't contain it. It's hard to say really because he's such a troubled characters, they're all troubled really. But Shinji's REALLY got problems! Lol!
    Evangelion was a certificate 15, so it's not such a big deal. I agree with you on the sexual repression part, but it was more to do with his personality disorder and how his father brought him up to be.

    I wouldn't think that he "knew" that the world was going to end, all he seemed to care about was everything staying the same, and obviously being with Asuka. I don't think it was a fantasy to masturbate over Asuka, though certainly many Otakus and American Anime fans masturbate over figures, if anything, I think he just wanted to have sex with her. He just wanted her, both emotionally and physically.

    And I wouldn't say he was sadistic, otherwise he would have loved being in the Eva, killing Angels by tearing them up and all. But obviously he doesn't look like he wants to fight in the Eva at all.

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    I guess shinji knew the end was coming right? So he got to to have a lil happy time before his pathatic wussy life comes to an end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackrosetwilight View Post
    I guess shinji knew the end was coming right? So he got to to have a lil happy time before his pathatic wussy life comes to an end.
    LOL...sad, true, and simply put. Good job!
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    Um....I'd say Shinji did it for quite an obvious reason: Seeing Asuka half-naked turned him on.


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    Dear "Let's not analyze a postmodern film and take all the imagery at face value instead" People,


    You are wrong and unqualified to watch this film. But mostly, you are stupid. Go back to bed.

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