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    Default Why did Shinji masturbate over Asuka in the movie?

    In "End of Evengelion" Shinji masturbates over Asuka's comatose body. Is there any meaning to this, why he does it?
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    Anno commenting on certain unhealthy aspects of Otaku Culture, and at the same time an insight into Shinji and Asuka's relationship from Shinji's point of view.
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    Oh, and here I thought it was about men only thinking with their wang.

    Just kidding though. Thats a deep anime that makes you think on so many levels. What just seems like a perverted act can have a much deeper feeling. Plus add in Shinji's repressed sex drive. He's so afraid of being rejected he'd never make an attempt to sleep with anyone. So when he sees Asuka, laying there, so beautiful, so pure, and no for him to be rejected...Its disgusting, but you have to feel sorry for the kid. He might die before he ever even sleeps with a girl.

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    Well... I HATE Shinji and when he does that... well... ^^U In my opinion it was, no a dramatic or filosofical scene, but a really disgusting moment where you see how weak and how stupid is Ikari Shinji!!!

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    You are right that he's weak. He seems to spend every second going "FATHER! I don't want to pilot. I don't want to be depended on. I'm worthless. FATHER!"

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    I think that it was his way of at least trying to broaden his emotional and physical horizons, during a time in his life where things were more than just a slight bit turbulent.

    That and the fact that like anyone on Earth (Eunuchs excluded), there comes a point where the body must utilize certain genetic predispositions in order to feel some kind of release, in order to feel at least on some level alive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ligno View Post
    and how stupid is Ikari Shinji!!!
    How does that make him stupid? Most males with access to pornography have done essentially the same deed, are they stupid too?
    For there nothing good or bad but thinking makes it so.

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    but dont you like shinji when he goes nut's and kill enemies like a bloody demon.

    there is one episode in which his eva. go berserk yet it seems to be controled by shinji's emotions in which his eva looses an arm but he cuts the angel and uses a part of it and connects it to himself as his arms and his eva eat the freakin angel. @_@

    (umm did i wrote everythin correctly it was so long ago when i watched it)


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    You had it right. But I'm not sure if it was his emotions that time, I thought he was unconscious and the angel that was inside the EVA was unleashed. Not really sure, been awhile for me too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saracin View Post
    and the angel that was inside the EVA was unleashed.
    Angel?? I'm sorry but did I miss an episode or something?
    For there nothing good or bad but thinking makes it so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El-ahrairah View Post
    Angel?? I'm sorry but did I miss an episode or something?
    Sorry, might be a little off. The Eva's were clones of the first angel, Adam, so in a sense they themselves are angels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saracin View Post
    Sorry, might be a little off. The Eva's were clones of the first angel, Adam, so in a sense they themselves are angels.
    I see where you're coming from, but following the same thought, humans would also be considered angels, as they were created from Lilith. And if everyone's an angel, doesn't it loose the value?
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    Quote Originally Posted by El-ahrairah View Post
    Angel?? I'm sorry but did I miss an episode or something?
    Unit 01 is made from the angel Lillith and Shinji's mother. Wikipedia says this is mentioned in the "deleted scenes" (Directors's Cut?) of Episode 23.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_%...lion%29#Lilith
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manhattan_Project_2000 View Post
    Unit 01 is made from the angel Lillith and Shinji's mother. Wikipedia says this is mentioned in the "deleted scenes" (Directors's Cut?) of Episode 23.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_%...lion%29#Lilith
    In the subbed version of one of the last episodes, Gendo calls unit 01 "Yui", also theres alot of hints in the series, such as in episode one, unit one saving Shinji. Yet another thing they say at some point in the series is that Yui was absorbed into unit 01.
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    I watched that episode several times just to understand it and I was still freaked out, especially when the arm turns out looking human and then Ritsuko refers to Unit 01 as if it was female.

    What would happen if I just sat here
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    This is a strange series that centers around both theological symbolism and psychological points. To try and make sense of them all is a chore and takes away from what is a series that seems to shift between the war with the Angels and the attempts by this boy to live a normal life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saracin View Post
    This is a strange series that centers around both theological and psychological points. To try and make sense of them all is a chore and takes away from what is a series that seems to shift between the war with the Angels and the attempts by this boy to live a normal life.
    Hint: There is no theological meaning in NGE. It has Jewish and Christian Symbolism, no doubt, by the staff admitted that it was used mostly because it looked cool. When the symbolism has meaning, it's a philosophical one.

    Moreover, it's completely possible to ignore the meaning behind NGE. Example: Most of the people in this thread.
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    Do you really need to find the meaning behind something though to enjoy it? Sometimes a story is just a story. The creator could say anything, he could make things up to give meaning to something that to him just looked cool so he used it.

    I bet it irks you to no end watching people discuss the why of something and you know all the answers and yet no one seems to learn. Or maybe the answer is that they would rather find their own motives out of a characters actions. Its not always about what the artist meant when he made something, its about what people gain from it.

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    Yes he did. He's 14. He's just entering manhood. Asuka is the only woman figure in his life. Rei is a motherly figure. There.
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    bottom line is Shinji is weak unit 01 eats the angel because he is a human and he gets crazy when the great Shinji is unconscious asuka is hot and he is a boy.

    I nail it.......


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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfenstain2k7 View Post
    bottom line is Shinji is weak unit 01 eats the angel because he is a human and he gets crazy when the great Shinji is unconscious asuka is hot and he is a boy.

    I nail it.......
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    Yeah remember all Eva's need a soul and Unit 1's is Shinji's mum.

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    Well back onto the topic, you could see it as the people here have previously mentioned. It could be a sign of his sexual repression, and of his fear of rejection. Though I wouldn't think of Shinji as being an otaku, I'm sure many other Japanese men would love to be in his place and do exactly what he did...

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    That is a REALLY good question! I remember the first time I saw that i was so disgusted and creeped out by it, but when you think about it he was a sexually repressed 14 year old. I mean everyone has sexual urges and whatnot and maybe he thought he was going to die and that the world was ending and said "hell with it!" or maybe since she was unconscious he took it as an opportunity to play out his fantasies that he didn't think would ever come true without actually having to involve her. Or maybe he's sadistic and her mangled body excited him so much that he couldn't contain it. It's hard to say really because he's such a troubled characters, they're all troubled really. But Shinji's REALLY got problems! Lol!
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    Bill Bandai: No, you ninny, they just SIT there. People will go nuts wondering WHEN they'll rise up and destroy them!

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