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    Santa wasn't made by the market, he was marketed. There's a difference. He's a bastardized creation wrought of Scandinavian and Christian mythology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    I hate to salt the sores, but it isn't the birth of Jesus. There is no historical record that Jesus was born on X-mas, -- the date was just chosen because the pagans celebrated winter solstice around X-mas.
    Yes, I agree, points for accuracy! It is probably true that Jesus was born in the fall - the actual reeason this time was chosen to celebrate the birth of Jesus was because the Christians wanted to stamp out the pagan religion, so they planted it right on their solstice celebration to overpower the pagans.

    Actually, a very smart idea, when you think about it...

    Saint Nicholas, who was the beginning of Santa Clause, was a long time after this, which began the legend/idea of Santa Clause.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brightsidelinkTS View Post
    I have a hard time believing that this forum is aimed at children
    Most of the members are under 18. Anime is marketed to children and teens. I was I think 12 or something when I first found this site. Looking for stuff on Sailor Moon. I find it hard to believe you're that dumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorian Grey View Post
    Most of the members are under 18. Anime is marketed to children and teens. I was I think 12 or something when I first found this site. Looking for stuff on Sailor Moon. I find it hard to believe you're that dumb.

    Still, I think a 12 year old should know there is no Santa. I found out when I was maybe 7 or 8, as did my brother. Man, I'm used to mods having to set a good example, and not flame people.


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    Santa does exist, he came through my checkout purchasing groceries. I had to ask him to lift his belly off the scales though so I could way the nectarines.
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    I believed in Santa until I was like, 10 so yeah. Some people just aren't told that he's not real. Though 15 is extreme, I'm surprised you never got curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blasphemous Feind View Post
    Santa does exist, he came through my checkout purchasing groceries. I had to ask him to lift his belly off the scales though so I could way the nectarines.
    He was flirting, you know.



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    @_@ tell you the truth parents are the santa of today, going out of their budget to make their children happy with gifts thats real kringle. =] I likey me santa claus parents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caelus View Post
    Man, I'm used to mods having to set a good example, and not flame people.

    Brother are YOU in the wrong place then.

    We have a mod with an avatar depicting a cartoon Hitler in a santa hat. That should tell you something.



    To remain on topic, this is a ridiculous topic. I agree with Dorian Grey that it's better suited for a blog post, but since it's here I have to say that the OP has been living a surprisingly sheltered life if this isn't all an act to get attention/"spoil" Christmas for children.
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    i learned that santa wasnt real when i was twelve. my parents told me and i didnt really care. so i help them with the presents when my little sisters go to bed. i am like a little elf. it is just something fun for the little ones tobelive in
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    I learned when I heard my parents playing pool one night, and we currently didn't have a pool table.


    Sure enough, the next morning I had one of those 10-in-1 pool tables. Even at like 9, wasn't that hard to put 2 and 2 together.


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    You're 15 and just found this out? How pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengin-san View Post
    Over-reactive much o_O;? You're 15, by now you should have realized that Christmas is more than some jolly man.
    Riight... too over- reactive i mean i found this out when i was like.....6 years old. And even then when i found out i was like, "Aw man..." But then since I knew my mom and dad were still getting me presents. Who cares if some jolly, fat, old, guy ((who's a stranger, and knows things about me whether I'm good or nice and crap...)) isn't giving me presents anymore!! I want presents from people i actually know and trust!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sagat View Post
    You're 15 and just found this out? How pathetic.
    Don't be so hasty, Sagat.
    Boy, what i wouldn't give to be 15 and still naive on this matter. It's something trully incredible. It could result in the cure for depression or something.
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    I remember being eight and sitting both my parents down, trying to get the answer out of them.
    It wasn't as bad as being seven and finding my mom putting candy into easter eggs the day before easter, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sagat View Post
    You're 15 and just found this out? How pathetic.
    Good god dont be too hard on them.I was never told that Santa was real..I never believed in him.I was taught the religious way I guess. (Jesus being born) ..Anyway.. well yeah now that the cats out of the bag.. you shouldnt feel like your parents were lying to you.. Its not that Santa isnt real..like others have said before. Hes a mythical legend. Who knows if he really exsisted at one point..I dont doubt that he did. Im sure theres a guy in history who went around giving gifts to children out of the goodness of his heart.. You shouldnt lose your sence of happiness and giving and love just because you found out Santa isnt real. Hes not the meaning of what Christmas is...^.^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanosuke23 View Post
    Brother are YOU in the wrong place then.

    We have a mod with an avatar depicting a cartoon Hitler in a santa hat. That should tell you something.
    Hitler was Christian. So it's safe to assume he celebrated Christmas. It's my personal hypothesis that Hitler so loved Christmas that he killed the Jews out of disgust over their celebration of Hanukkah. He only allied with japan after insisting they at least eat a cake or something on Christmas.
    Ehhh, I dunno if I'll stick around. We'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manhattan_Project_2000 View Post
    Hitler was Christian. So it's safe to assume he celebrated Christmas. It's my personal hypothesis that Hitler so loved Christmas that he killed the Jews out of disgust over their celebration of Hanukkah. He only allied with japan after insisting they at least eat a cake or something on Christmas.

    You have managed to twist it into a way where Hitler could have his own ABC Family special. You're good.


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    Santa is seen in many ways, legend, nonlegend, friend or foe, but it's however you see him in your own eyes, in my eyes i see someone who brings joy to little girls and boys from all over the world.basically it comes down to wheather you believe or not, i still believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manhattan_Project_2000 View Post
    Santa wasn't made by the market, he was marketed. There's a difference. He's a bastardized creation wrought of Scandinavian and Christian mythology.
    That's true. But if you looked at it another way, he was made by the market. Saint Nicholas was real and was renowned for "secret gift-giving, but is now commonly identified with Santa Claus." Santa is just the adaptation of Nicholas in the Western culture. You could blame political cartoonist Thomas Nast for shaping the bishop into that. -->http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ryOldSanta.jpg
    So we're both right in our own ways.
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    My siblings found out about the "real" Santa long ago. It's nothing disappointing, just get over it and move on. I just find it hard to believe that you're 15 and never found this out long ago. That is a pretty sheltered life if I ever saw one. But hey, not everyone is the same so meh.

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    Agreed that finding out Santa isn't real on this forum may be a threat to some readers, since judging by your post, there are those who still believe he exists. However, having said that I'll provide some opinions and maybe a little bright side on things.

    When I was young I used to believe in Santa too. My parents used to give me surprise presents after I left a list under my pillow a week before. But when I turned 6 I realized that I lived in an Asian country and we don't have chimneys, so err, yeah. Unfortunately, I can't really say I wasn't entirely devastated when I came to the conclusion. I did stay up during christmas that year and next to the christmas tree but it was past midnight and no one showed up.

    My mom came downstairs for a drink of water and she spotted me at the tree. She asked what I was doing and I told her I was waiting for Santa to come but added that he probably isn't real or doesn't come to our country cause we don't have houses with chimneys. My mom smiled and told me the St. Nick story. How a character was based on this kind man and his spirit of giving (which doesn't only mean presents). It was then that I realized that Santa was more than just the jolly red gift-giving man.

    Bottom line? Santa's image was created as a tangible embodiment of the meaning of christmas. Unfortunately, commercialization has kinda soiled his true image.

    Want another curve ball? I'm not a Christian and I don't exactly celebrate Xmas as a celebration of the birth of Christ. But I like the concept of giving and am always happy to help out in the many charities that go on during this time of year. This was what my parents taught me through using Santa. Now I'll leave it entirely up to you as to how you choose to react.

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    Ok. Lets explain to miss misery here how the world works.
    Holidays:

    1. Santa = parents
    2. Easter Bunny = parents
    3. Tooth Fairy = parents

    Does anyone see a pattern? Lets move on.
    Religon:

    4. Jesus = a pimp ( think about it.)
    5. Religon in general = a hoax used to keep old cultures alive.

    In conclusion,the only thing in life you can belive in is chocolate, teddy bears, and ninjas. Or chocolate ninja teddy bears.
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