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    Default Anime insiders "top 50 anime"

    To celebrate the fiftieth issue of Anime Insider, the AI staff compiled a list of the top 50 anime ever. Though the list is compiled by AI, the contents of the list were selected by specialists of the industry, such as Crispin Freeman, Rob Bricken (former editor of Anime Insider), and Junichi Fujisaka (director of Blood +, which is not on this list). "We asked for the lists of the best anime- not the most influencial, not the most popular, but the best. The ones that made a lasting impact. The ones that told a solid story in an entertaining, well-rounded way. The literature of anime, if you will."


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    50. Vision of Escaflowne
    49. Saikano
    48. Beserk
    47. Kino's Journey
    46. Cardcaptor Sakura
    45. Fantastic Children
    44. Irresponsible Captain Tyler
    43. Giant Robo: The Animation
    42. Twelve Kingdoms
    41. Azumanga Daioh
    40. Urusei Yatsura
    39. Astro Boy
    38. Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust
    37. Fruits Basket
    36. Night on the Galactic Railroad
    35. Excel Saga
    34. Trigun
    33. Read or Die
    32. Princess Mononoke
    31. Gunbuster: Aim for the Top!
    30. Samurai X: Trust and Betryal
    29. The Place Promised in Our Early Days
    28. Planetes
    27. Samurai Champloo
    26. Mobile Suit Gundam 0080: War in the Pocket
    25. Princess Tutu
    24. Serial Experiments Lain
    23. Galaxy Express 999
    22. Patlabor: The Movie 2
    21. Tokyo Godfathers
    20. Gankutsuou
    19. My Neighbor Totoro
    18. Boogiepop Phantom
    17. Paranoia Agent
    16. Grave of the Fireflies
    15. Haibane Renmei
    14. Ghost in the Shell/Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
    13. Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind
    12. Now and Then, Here and There
    11. Fullmetal Alchemist
    10. Macross Plus
    9. Akira
    8. The Castle of Cagliostro
    7. Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigrade
    6. Neon Genesis Evangelion
    5. Revolutionary Girl Utena
    4. FLCL
    3. Milleniem Actress
    2. Porco Rosso
    1. Cowboy Bebop
    This is seriously the most bullcrap list I have ever seen! I know we should not take this seriously, but too much that is not listed in favor of these of most of these animes that should not even be listed just stands out way too much to me and does bother me for a source that's supposed to an "authority" on anime.

    The original Gundam and Macross are not on this list!!?? This is an outrage!!! At least have more than one Gundam series. 0080 is good, but should not be favored for others on a list like this. And where in God's name is Hokuto no Ken!!!?? Jojo's Bizarre Adventure!!?? Aura Battler Dunbine!!?? Yuu Yuu Hakushou!!!?? Slam Dunk!!?? Ashita no Joe!!?? Saint Seiya!!?? I know I'll get flamed for this but Dragon Ball Z needed a place as well!!! Not only they should be on all lists, but top 5 or top 10 alone! Not listing those animes on a list that should be considered influential and lasting is just criminal!!

    If any anime fits the so called criteria of "The ones that made a lasting impact. The ones that told a solid story in an entertaining, well-rounded way. The literature of anime, if you will," it was those animes!! I mean, where is Flying House? Where is Rose of Versaille? Gankotsuou?

    How is CCS favored over RG Veda or MKR!? CLAMP is known more that!!

    Have these people seen more than 50 anime!?

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    DRAGONBALL DID NOT MAKE THE LIST...
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    Well actually the mere idea of making such a list is pretty stupid if you ask me. Wich anime is better or as they say "made a lasting impact" is very much an individual thing. It also depends on how you judge what is and what is not "a lasting impact".
    But really it all comes down to that these people made a list of the ones they favour so i don't see why you should get so riled up about it.

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    How is Cowboy Bebop 1 and Fullmetal Alchemist 11? That doesn't make sense! What's more is that they put FLCL, Jin Roh, Utena, and Porco Rosso ahead of FMA! But the thing that I'm really surprised about is that Spirited Away...isn't even on the list!! What's that about!? Howl's Moving Castle is not even on the list and they put Princess Mononoke at 32! Speciallists of the industry you say? Yeah right. This list is whack!
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    *looks through the list*
    *does not see wolf's rain*
    *hates the list*

    these lists are always contraversial, people always want to see thier own list of favourite anime (or what ever the list is of) ordered for them. This list is mearly a selection of indeviduals thoughts on anime - but still no wolves - - well Mononoke is there

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    I believe with their "criteria," it is possible to make a list that is 75-90% objective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rubberbabybuggybumper View Post
    How is Cowboy Bebop 1 and Fullmetal Alchemist 11? That doesn't make sense! What's more is that they put FLCL, Jin Roh, Utena, and Porco Rosso ahead of FMA! But the thing that I'm really surprised about is that Spirited Away...isn't even on the list!! What's that about!? Howl's Moving Castle is not even on the list and they put Princess Mononoke at 32! Speciallists of the industry you say? Yeah right. This list is whack!
    The fact that FLCL is there at all disturbs me; maybe their views were distorted by halucinogenic substances.
    If someone calls FLCL great, I immediately wonder if they think "White Rabbit," "Tomorrow Never Knows," and "Revolution 9" were works of pure musical genius. If I have reason to feel they've kicked the mushroom habit, I then wonder if they're schizophrenic.
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    I didnt see Rozen Maiden, Elfen Lied nor Eureka Seven. T^T
    the list is corrupted. Meh. At least Fullmetal Alchemist is in.
    I do agree with Overwatch there.
    plus, almost 3/4 of the anime in the list were anime ive never heard of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [unlimited] View Post
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    plus, almost 3/4 of the anime in the list were anime ive never heard of.
    I suppose this last bit would be determind not only be the indevidual tastes in anime of those asked, but also the country they are in. Clearly those interviewed in the UK would give a very differnt list to those in Japan

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    One question, where is Bleach? >_> And why on earth is Princess Tutu higher on the list than CCS? A duck thingy about ballet is higher than a CLAMP production? Huh, I guess that's three questions.

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    You can ask all the questions but the person who wrote the article won't talk back. Besides I think "Great Teacher Onizuka" should be in the list as well.
    And like above mentioned , WHY IS FULL METAL ALCHEMIST BELOW COWBOY BEBOP. It just makes me angry that Full Metal is rated lower than Cowboy Bebop. Bebop is a good anime, but Full Metal Alchemist is better IMHO.

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    Okay, that list is a bit pants in my honest opinion seeing as Wolf's Rain, Bleach and .Hack// are all missing and exactly why is Spirited Away missing if My Neighbor Totoro and Princess Mononoke are there. And it disturbs me beyond belief that Azumanga Daioh and Astro Boy are in there 0.o I'm scarred ... oh well at least I see that Serial Experiment Lain is in there but why it got beaten by FLCL I'll never know *Shrugs*
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    Quote Originally Posted by ParaParaJMo View Post
    I believe with their "criteria," it is possible to make a list that is 75-90% objective.
    The only way such a list could be objective would be if it were based on revenue, run time, play time, length, or some other quantifiable variable. Polling would be closer to objective than is this list, but wouldn't be objective.

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    Where's Tenchi Muyo on this list?!
    And how'd the hell FLCL get number 4 on the list! In my opinion FLCL doesn't even deserve to be on the list, Tenchi Muyo is so much better than FLCL.
    At least there was a few good ones on there. And most of the anime on this list did not make an impact on me at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chappie1989 View Post
    You can ask all the questions but the person who wrote the article won't talk back. Besides I think "Great Teacher Onizuka" should be in the list as well.
    And like above mentioned , WHY IS FULL METAL ALCHEMIST BELOW COWBOY BEBOP. It just makes me angry that Full Metal is rated lower than Cowboy Bebop. Bebop is a good anime, but Full Metal Alchemist is better IMHO.
    I knew I forgot something. I can't believe I forgot about Great Teacher Onizuka. Definitely should have been on the list and in my opinion, above Cowboy Bebop.
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    This list is, uummm, terrible. What's the point of it anyway. Everyone has deferent opinions on what is good and what is bad. For example, I would agree that Cowboy Bebop is a good anime, but it's no were near as good as Read or Die was. Anyway, if you ask me, they should just take this list out, get the entire anime watching population to vote on the best anime that are out there, and make a "Need to Watch" list. And, of course, there shouldn't be any numbers because, as you all can see, they only aggravate people.
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    I haven't watched every single series on that list, so I can't really criticize it completely.

    I mean, if I were to say "in my opinion" it would defeat the purpose of that top 50 list. Then it would be my list, not a theirs. Seems like the list was chosen by respectable people, and I don't really have the right to say my favorites should knock anything off there.

    There can always be a difference between a popular, exposed anime, and a good one in my book.

    I knew NGE and Akira would be high up there, as well as the critically well received shows such as Samurai Champloo, and Paranoia Agent was indeed superb, though I didn't expect Cowboy Bebop to be number one. The newer shows didn't seem to be that shortchanged.

    Random, but this list gave me another reason to begin Gankutsuou. Hmm.

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    I know. But it's good to air things out.^^

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    The only way such a list could be objective would be if it were based on revenue, run time, play time, length, or some other quantifiable variable. Polling would be closer to objective than is this list, but wouldn't be objective.

    Now let me stew
    Exactly. I mean, it says they didn't judge based on "popularity or influence," but on "lasting impact." Isn't that way too counter intuitive?

    I mean Dragon Ball Z, love, hate it, say what you will had that. It's been over for such a long time but people still watch it and talk about it, and people compare some action animes to it.

    But I'll do my best to explain objectively why Macross/Robotech should be on this list
    "Even though Japanese animation had yet to be formally recognized as a totally separate genre of not just animation, but as film and media, we were amazed by rare works such as Robotech originally called Macross in its native country of Japan. In comparison to other cartoons we have watched, Robotech consisted of a story and not compressed in a single episode for the main characters to solve. It dealt with teenage issues such as relationships, which is difficult for young children to understand in a more mature and complicated point of view.

    In addition to this, there is a coming of age story for Rick Hunter (or Ichijo Hikaru) is fighting in a war despite his young age. Nobody knows exactly why there is this war and it can make you reflect on this in a more realistic approach. Such as why are their wars? Why is the current war happening? Can't we all just get along?"

    Robotech despite being vaguely recognized as something of a different country, had something ground breaking and distinctive with its story.

    The original Mobile Suit Gundam, like its American counter part, Star Trek, was not

    The fact that FLCL is there at all disturbs me; maybe their views were distorted by halucinogenic substances.
    If someone calls FLCL great, I immediately wonder if they think "White Rabbit," "Tomorrow Never Knows," and "Revolution 9" were works of pure musical genius. If I have reason to feel they've kicked the mushroom habit, I then wonder if they're schizophrenic.
    To me, FLCL is the Jamie Kennedy of anime. And I don't mean that as a compliment.

    Tenchi Muyo is so much better than FLCL.
    I was surprised Tenchi didn't make the list either. If you were going to make a list about what was truly the biggest animes to hit America, then you failed in indicating Tenchi.

    I don't think Berserk should be on that list because that anime doesn't speak for what Berserk truly offers in the manga. It only offers a 1/3 of what you can really get out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baka_black View Post
    I know. But it's good to air things out.^^
    True.

    Everyone has their own top50 anime. But c'mon, there are some anime that just should not be in the top50 at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baka_black View Post
    One question, where is Bleach? >_> And why on earth is Princess Tutu higher on the list than CCS? A duck thingy about ballet is higher than a CLAMP production? Huh, I guess that's three questions.
    Agreed. Where's Bleach and Dragonball!?
    And I also think that even Naruto should be on the list. [Mostly.. whenever we hear the word "ninja", Naruto comes next to it. I mean.. really. >_<]
    Oh well.. It's their top 50.

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    I think Cowboy Bebop was good, but it was too short to be excellent, or even number 2. But, it gets number one? And also, all these shows are some I've never even HEARD of.
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    This list seems pretty old. I mean... I agree that some of those titles should be there because it's an "all-time" list, but why didn't they put any of the new greats. Why did "Princess Tutu" make it? I mean, I bet not even half the people on this board even know what "Princess Tutu" is.

    Considering it's supposed to be a list of "the best" rather than the most influential or the most popular, it's strange that they haven't mentioned a single one of any anime shown in the last 3 seasons (Japan time), excluding the current one, which, in my opinion, has been creating a lot of hits.

    I have to disagree with a lot of the anime listed.

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    I personally wouldn't put Bleach and Naruto on this list considering they are too new. A lot of people in other places are accusing me of being biased towards more old school anime. Granted I do acknowledge that, but am I allowed to give my side of the store?

    I say they have yet to make their "lasting impact" granted we know it's going to turn out that way. I believe the ending has to really define the product as well. Especially in the cases of Cowboy Bebop and Ashita no Joe. Deathnote, I say will last for some time and for future generations.

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