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    Default Realism or anime?

    I've been getting burned at school for drawing 'anime' :l And they're all going EEEEW JAPANISH WHY U DRAW THAT D8<

    It might be pointless, but I want some opinions, kay?
    Personally, I think it's MY choice on wheter I want to draw 'anime' or not. Heck, I might even make a million dollars off of it while those hypocrites are at home eating ice cream and watching Jay Leno :l

    So, can I get an amen? 8D;;
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    Amen. o-O

    It's all Art, I dun care what the prin-prissies at that fancy museum say, or the local drawing teacher says. Regardless of how they say it's simple to draw compared to otherwise, I must disagree.

    Whatever way you look at it, anime is art, and if you don't get that then think on it a bit.


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    Amen XD
    As Tetsanosuke said, anime is a form or art and they have no right to say "Thats not what we draw, so it is therefore wrong/stupid" A lot of the preps at my school think this:

    Is called a "good start on the way to being an artist" and yes, some people in my grade draw like that >.> While my art teacher yelled at me for drawing something like this:


    ..Which in my school is considered to be just some wierd scribbles... my art teacher chewed me out on not using "realistic drawing styles" last year >.<
    Yeah, I get pretty pissed when people are closed-minded and think that all that counts in art is for it to be "normal"

    And yeah, I may have exagerated a bit on the pictures, but you get the point nonetheless ^.^;

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    Ew..Amen. >Refuses to say.<

    Dun let others get in your way. If so smash them on the cheek for smiting yours. All I can say.

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    Manga art is not recognised as a form of illustration in most American art institutions. Nothing you can do about it really. The case has been made before, but it is seen as simply copying the illustration style of another person due to the various traits that are shared between most styles of manga artwork.

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    I like them both the same and i dont understand why anybody should get mad about anybody drawing anime

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast_as_Fire_ View Post
    So, can I get an amen? 8D;;
    Not from me.

    Heck, I might even make a million dollars off of it while those hypocrites are at home eating ice cream and watching Jay Leno :l
    Highly unlikely. And Jay Leno is making millions while you're scribbling.

    I've been getting burned at school for drawing 'anime' :l And they're all going EEEEW JAPANISH WHY U DRAW THAT D8<
    If you're in art class, why not try to develop in other areas of art? That's usually the point of art classes. I personally liked abstract and portraits. It's not healthy to be so absorbed in a different culture rather than exploring your inner self. Try being more creative, yeah?
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    I do not see how realism and anime are even in correlation unless you are one of these people

    Narutard 1: Not in episode 226! It was 301 and that wasn't even Shippuden!

    Narutard 2: THAT IS SO KAWAII! THAT BUNNY IS KAWAII! EVERYTHING'S KAWAII! BLOOD SPURTING ALL OVER THE GROUND THROUGH YOUR EXTERNAL ORGANS WHILE YOU HOWL IN AGONY SLOWLY DYING IS SO KAWII! YOUR PARENTS DIVORCE WHERE YOUR FATHER BEAT YOUR MOTHER OVER THE HEAD WITH A SLUDGE HAMMER WAS SO KAWII!

    Narutard 3: I watch Naruto, therefore, logically, I now have increased martial arts skills. I'm a regular Bruce Lee.

    Narutard 4: I have no sociable interactions with anyone in the outside world besides drawing anime and watching 300 episodes of Inuyasha (again) while I drown my sorrow out with chocolate chip ice cream or (insert snack food here)

    Narutard 5: Because I watch anime I don't have to justify my opinons rationally, my head will just float up into a balloon and a ten pound vain will emerge from my forehead.

    Narutard 6 (Similar to Narutard 3): I am a great swordsman and/or genius, and or/track runner and because I have level 67 agility on World of Warcraft, I can bounce off walls and disappear in a flash (because no one knows I exist except when I make a complete fool of myself)

    The list goes on and on...but the point is, anyone that says you have problems with perceiving reality, just because you like to sketch anime, is being a stereotypical, all anime fans live in their own little world, type of person (which can be far from the truth). Liking anime has nothing to do with your sense of rationale, maturity, integrity or anything else really, as long as you do not let it take over your judgement by thinking that since Naruto can break cement with his fist, so can you.
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    AMEN!
    There I gave it to you.

    I love drawing anime.
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    If you're scribbling for fun then there really shouldn't be any problem. Just draw what you want and don't mind the less than constructive criticisms. Art doesn't really have to be that realistic. Look at South Park, the little stick figure comics like XKCD and our very own Eris's pink death. To look at it another way, This is as much a dog as this one.

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    Dare to be Different.
    I always say that.
    Mabey they are jealous cuz they cant draw like that.
    You shouldnt care what others think if you enjoy doing it.
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    most art classes aren't for you to draw in the style you choose.
    they usually say, "draw something that would reflect/resemble ___'s work."
    so, i could see why a teacher would get upset for you reflecting a totally irrelevant artist's work.
    art is to be appreciated on different levels for everyone. i'm sure that you don't find another artist, such as salvador dali, as great as someone such as masashi kishimoto.

    & i really don't see why you had to throw out the "prep" card. there's other people out there who aren't preps that wouldn't consider anime, so don't just seclude it to one label.
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    Draw what you want and get good at it. I've been doodling around my pages since i could hold a pencil, i became better than alot of my fellow students...i never gave a crap about others opinions and you shouldnt either, if its what you like, do it. i'll give yeah an Amen!

    AMEN!

    and dont you have an Anime club at school???

    as for anime style art, it is slowly becoming excepted...It is art, that is my opinion, a drawing created by someone on paper or monitor...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast_as_Fire_ View Post
    I've been getting burned at school for drawing 'anime' :l And they're all going EEEEW JAPANISH WHY U DRAW THAT D8<

    It might be pointless, but I want some opinions, kay?
    Alright.

    Personally, I think it's MY choice on wheter I want to draw 'anime' or not.
    And it's their choice to taunt you for drawing in a style that's appropriated from another country you have no part of. That's what we call freedom.

    Heck, I might even make a million dollars off of it while those hypocrites are at home eating ice cream and watching Jay Leno :l
    Name one American copying manga styling that is rich. A best you'd make money on the level of the jerks that created Avatar: The Last Airbender.

    Also, I hardly see how they are hypocrites unless they are drawing in manga style too.

    So, can I get an amen? 8D;;
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    The anime style is rarely well respected in the western hemisphere, all this fanfare going on this forum is nothing compared to the reality of the rest of the western world. You're fighting a losing battle. And sure, you can draw it and they have a right to make fun of you just as you have a right to draw your anime doodles. It's, in all honesty, a uninspired style of illustration. There's rarely any individuality, they all have certain quirks but underneath it all it's the same. I doubt the idiots at your school realize this, so they're probably just making fun of you for drawing japanese stuff. However, if I was at your school I would be making fun of you for wasting your talents.
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    -is Narutard example number 4- LOOOOL. I love chocolate chip cookie dough. ^-^

    Point being, draw what you want, when you want and don't give a crap what anyone else thinks. As long as the drawing makes YOU happy. ^__^ And AMEN!

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    This seems like a blog entry to me.

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    To add to what Masali is saying about how no legitimate art authority respects Anime, there are roughly two Japanese artists I can respect as painters. Masami Teraoka and Yoshitaka Amano. Neither of which draw in anything approaching manga style. They both paint/illustrate in Ukiyo-e style with influences from western art.

    Manga/Anime style was appropriated from early Disney animated features, and is a classic example of commercial art (which is a highly offensive term in the art world). Very little of it is made with any object other then moving product. Part of this is a consequence of needing funding, but to be fair I could count the number of Anime I have seen that qualify as art on one hand (although I have seen a great many that exhibit the pretension of being art).
    Ehhh, I dunno if I'll stick around. We'll see.

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    AMEN. When I was in high school, people did the same thing to me. Don't let it bother you, because the main people that talk about how much "they" think that you should not keep drawing anime, are the main people who can not draw themselves. Art is art, if you like to draw anime, I say more power to you. I draw anime all the time. And in high school, just to make people mad, when I got done drawing an anime picture I would yell, "I just finished another anime picture!" Point: Don't care what anyone says.


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    Well, you should just continue to draw anime. If you like it, then there is no point of stopping. Manhattan_Project_2000, I have to very much disagree with you. I find looking into a simple picture is great and all, but it can't keep me entertained for long. However, in the case of manga, there is an entire story told through pictures. That really keeps me entertained. Then again, everyone is deferent, so everyone has deferent likings. In the end though, I don't think an art teacher has the right to say that a drawing is bad because they don't like it. I believe that a drawing should be graded by how good it is, not by wither someone likes the style or not. I guess this world is just full of close minded people and others have to suffer because of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bug View Post
    Well, you should just continue to draw anime. If you like it, then there is no point of stopping. Manhattan_Project_2000, I have to very much disagree with you. I find looking into a simple picture is great and all, but it can't keep me entertained for long. However, in the case of manga, there is an entire story told through pictures. That really keeps me entertained.
    That's called ADHD. There are effective treatments available, or so I am told.

    OK, now that the obvious zing is out of the way, you missed my point. I was stating that Teraoka's work has artistic merit, while Trigun (for example) does not. Artistic merit is at no point based on how long something occupies you.

    I believe that a drawing should be graded by how good it is, not by wither someone likes the style or not. I guess this world is just full of close minded people and others have to suffer because of them.
    Assuming you didn't mean good in a technical sense, "Good" is subjective. Ergo, your sentience would read "I believe that a drawing should be graded by how much you like it based on your tastes, not by wither someone likes the style or not." Which is stupid.

    If you meant good in a technical sense, then M.C. Escher or Salvador Dali are much better then any anime you will ever find. Hell, most architects are better.
    Ehhh, I dunno if I'll stick around. We'll see.

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    ok if you want to draw manga you need to get an idea of how your environment is going to react around you
    if you feel that any negative consequences are going to come up you need to accept them
    if you can't, why draw manga if you feel that the negativity is going to bug you?

    don't blame other people or other sterotypical groups of people for your choice of actions in the first place
    you chose to draw the manga drawing for your art class
    and what happened?
    the art teacher got mad
    did you have a feeling she was going to react that way?
    who knows, but you can't control how someone is going to react
    so don't get frustrated about this situation
    don't get mad at her for it was your choice to draw it in the 1st place
    the situation is her problem now
    out of respect you should listen to her if you want to pass your art class
    ask her if you can do an extra credit, redo the project, or do something else to make up for it
    if there is nothing you can get for her or that you cannot arrange and your not satisfied, talk to the principal or a a school administrator about your problem to see what they can do to help you

    staying openminded in bad situations is the key factor to getting by in life
    if you don't like how the "preps" are treating you because you are drawing anime, recommend them a show you think they'd maybe like, show them some manga or anime, compare a manga drawing to another piece of artwork, tell them an episode, talk about an anime show thats similar to a non-anime show, etc.
    this will maybe get them interested or become more openminded to anime
    if they are still narrowminded then just leave it be, theres nothing more you can do about it

    if you like drawing anime, don't let people's comments bug you about it, and try to find motivation in their comments instead of negativity
    i can't give you an omen since your blaming people your your choices of actions, when it was there choice to react the way they did
    im giving myself an omen since i feel that i have helped you ^^
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    Like everyone else said, why should you care about the opinions of others when you enjoy what you do?
    Its become more of a stereotype to criticize people and what they draw...if that even made sense.
    But enjoy what you're doing and dont take mind to whatever people say...you wont know them forever.
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    Amen brotha. Draw whatever you want.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Azel View Post
    I do not see how realism and anime are even in correlation unless you are one of these people

    Narutard 1: Not in episode 226! It was 301 and that wasn't even Shippuden!

    Narutard 2: THAT IS SO KAWAII! THAT BUNNY IS KAWAII! EVERYTHING'S KAWAII! BLOOD SPURTING ALL OVER THE GROUND THROUGH YOUR EXTERNAL ORGANS WHILE YOU HOWL IN AGONY SLOWLY DYING IS SO KAWII! YOUR PARENTS DIVORCE WHERE YOUR FATHER BEAT YOUR MOTHER OVER THE HEAD WITH A SLUDGE HAMMER WAS SO KAWII!

    Narutard 3: I watch Naruto, therefore, logically, I now have increased martial arts skills. I'm a regular Bruce Lee.

    Narutard 4: I have no sociable interactions with anyone in the outside world besides drawing anime and watching 300 episodes of Inuyasha (again) while I drown my sorrow out with chocolate chip ice cream or (insert snack food here)

    Narutard 5: Because I watch anime I don't have to justify my opinons rationally, my head will just float up into a balloon and a ten pound vain will emerge from my forehead.

    Narutard 6 (Similar to Narutard 3): I am a great swordsman and/or genius, and or/track runner and because I have level 67 agility on World of Warcraft, I can bounce off walls and disappear in a flash (because no one knows I exist except when I make a complete fool of myself)

    The list goes on and on...but the point is, anyone that says you have problems with perceiving reality, just because you like to sketch anime, is being a stereotypical, all anime fans live in their own little world, type of person (which can be far from the truth). Liking anime has nothing to do with your sense of rationale, maturity, integrity or anything else really, as long as you do not let it take over your judgement by thinking that since Naruto can break cement with his fist, so can you.
    LMAO man you just described a whole bunch of people I know

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