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    How come you can't dissolve powdered milk in cold water?? all the milk just end up in lumps!! i think its one of the great unsolved mysteries of the world. can somebody enlighten me??


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    I think this thread is stupid.
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    For milk...I would choose it for hot.




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    It's the temperature of course,milk can never be dissolved properly in cold water since the temp. is not enough to break the milk and blend it with the solvent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izumi Kaminari View Post
    How come you can't dissolve powdered milk in cold water?? all the milk just end up in lumps!! i think its one of the great unsolved mysteries of the world. can somebody enlighten me??
    I am not a chemist, but I somehow aced the chemistry course in high school, and I think I got vague recollections about what could cause this:

    Fat probably is the culprit. Put butter in cold water, and it will be solid. Put butter in warm water, and it will melt.

    But it won't mix, so you need an emulsifier. Put some egg yolk in the mix, and it will no longer be layered. When you cool it down, it shouldn't become solid. You could also try using milk, since it already contains water and fat, it should also contain an emulsifier.

    When you've got your blended fat and water, cool it down, et voila!, it (shouldn't be) isn't lumpy.
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    Cuz powdered milk sucks >__>;

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    I am not a chemist, but I somehow aced the chemistry course in high school, and I think I got vague recollections about what could cause this:

    Fat probably is the culprit. Put butter in cold water, and it will be solid. Put butter in warm water, and it will melt.

    But it won't mix, so you need an emulsifier. Put some egg yolk in the mix, and it will no longer be layered. When you cool it down, it shouldn't become solid. You could also try using milk, since it already contains water and fat, it should also contain an emulsifier.

    When you've got your blended fat and water, cool it down, et voila!, it (shouldn't be) isn't lumpy.
    Milk with eggyolk?!?! ooohh... are you some kind of a body builder??...
    Maybe i could try that for breakfast..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Izumi Kaminari View Post
    Milk with eggyolk?!?! ooohh... are you some kind of a body builder??...
    Maybe i could try that for breakfast..
    I just outlined an experiment to show what was going on. I didn't intend for anyone to actually drink the end product.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    I just outlined an experiment to show what was going on. I didn't intend for anyone to actually drink the end product.
    ahh.. well i wasn't kidding.. i know some people actually drink those kind of stuff.. they say its a protein builder.. hehe! wanna try??


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    Egg is crap for building muscle, the fact that there is a lot of protein in eggs is just a hopeful alternative for a protein shake. There is more protein in a chocolate bar than there is in 2 eggs.
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    Errrr..You seem to ask alot of Science questions~ =_="~ Easy answer....because powdered milk can dissolve in hot water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izumi Kaminari View Post
    i think its one of the great unsolved mysteries of the world. can somebody enlighten me??

    Not only is this statement quite hilarious, it doesn't make sense at the same time, how can someone enlighten you if it's an unsolved mystery?


    Also you can dissolve powdered milk in cold water, it's just not as easy.
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    uhm..this is just basic chemistry.or was it physics? (im not trying to look smart here.^^') u see, u have to look at the water as a huge collection of water molecules.H2O rite? then u have to remember that when its cold molecules tend to stick together.the opposite happens when its hot.kinda like people.^^' if they stick together then u only have little spaces between each water molecule.

    now u think about the milk molecules. (theoretically of course.i think the molecules in powdered milk arent called milk molecules.its probably sum scientific sounding thing.^^') u want to mix it wid the water rite?to do that it has to fit inside the spaces between the water molecules.since its cold and there's less spaces between the water molecules, only a little bit of the milk will get to mix wid the water and hence u get the lumps u talk about.^^

    if u want to mix the milk completely u have to heat the water first.if u want it cold then just pop it into the fridge after u heated it but not while its still reali hot otherwise ud ruin ur fridge.hehe.hope that helps.^^

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    Powdered milk is awful.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    I am not a chemist, but I somehow aced the chemistry course in high school, and I think I got vague recollections about what could cause this:

    Fat probably is the culprit. Put butter in cold water, and it will be solid. Put butter in warm water, and it will melt.

    But it won't mix, so you need an emulsifier. Put some egg yolk in the mix, and it will no longer be layered. When you cool it down, it shouldn't become solid. You could also try using milk, since it already contains water and fat, it should also contain an emulsifier.

    When you've got your blended fat and water, cool it down, et voila!, it (shouldn't be) isn't lumpy.
    Ditto~

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    haha.u know what,let's just forget my explanation.^^

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    I never knew powdered milk only dissolved in hot water.
    O_o


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizzy View Post
    Cuz powdered milk sucks >__>;
    Agreed, it doesn't taste right.

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    It's all about thermodynamics and solubility rules. A reaction is either spontaneous or non-spontaneous. Ice melting is a spontaneous reaction because you don't really need to do anything to it, just leave it at room temperature or whatever.

    The powdered milk dissolving in cold water is a non-spontaneous reaction. What this means is, the system lacks the energy required for the reaction to proceed and so energy must be put into the system. That's why the water has to be warm.

    The reason why energy is needed is where the solubility rules come into play, but we won't go into that because it means I have to explain functional groups and ions and whatever and I just can't be bothered right now lol. But hey if you want to waste heaps of time in a science class, ask the teacher to explain it to you =3


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    Stop making stupid topics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ichigo_Burossamu View Post
    Stop making stupid topics.
    i think its a fun topic... and it shows that there are lots of AF ppl who knows lots of scientific stuff along with their huge of anime knowledge base....^^ impressive! kudos! ...lol...XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    I just outlined an experiment to show what was going on. I didn't intend for anyone to actually drink the end product.
    yeah, i know someone too. the milk-egg shake has lots of protein in it (he takes out the yolk to lessen the cholesterol) that helps builds muscles and the guy i know who drinks it calls it his homemade protein shake^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blasphemous Feind View Post
    Egg is crap for building muscle, the fact that there is a lot of protein in eggs is just a hopeful alternative for a protein shake. There is more protein in a chocolate bar than there is in 2 eggs.
    there may be more protein in a chocolate bar--but also it contains lots more sugar and probably some additives besides the protein (unless its a special bar by joe wieder ...XD) . they probably take the eggs instead of the chocolate bar to isolate the protein they need^^

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