The 10 Espada vs Akatsuki

[Manhattan_Project_2000]

Well, I haven't bothered to read up to date in Bleach, but this topic is pretty stupid. Half of the members of Akatsuki haven't even had their abilities described in any detail.

Tobi- He's fast and has earth jutsu and a sharingan. Otherwise, ???
Pein- ???
That One Chick- ???
Claw-head guy- He's fast and has earth jutsu. Otherwise, ???
Itachi- All he has done is mind-screw people with the sharingan. Otherwise, ???
Sharky the Shark Head Man- Uh, he's got water jutsu, and a sword that eats chakara. Otherwise, ???

The others (e.g. the dead ones) we know the most of the powers of. But saying that Espada would win (or lose) is silly when you don't even know half the information. This might be a good discussion when both of the series (or arcs, doesn't matter) end, but not now.

I doubt reiatsu & chakra are the same thing.

First, They're shinigamis, and what makes you believe that Akatsuki can actually see shinigamis? Maybe Itachi with his sharingan...

Second, The Espadas are more than the akatsuki members, since they lost Hidan, Kakuzu and Sasori.

When you do this sort of crossover mumbo-jumbo, you have to make a few concessions. First, Naruto and Bleach's sprit energy have to be equivalent, or at least interchangeable. Second, all of Akatsuki ends up being to see spirits and stuff. Third, anyone dead on either team gets rezzed.

Either way all of he Espada have abilities that far surpass those that a normal human can match.

Who on Akatsuki is a normal human being? If you throw out Pein and That One Chick- both of who we know almost nothing about- they all have extensive body modifications, are a "True Uchiha", or both. A “True Uchiha” might as well be Superman for all the plot armor.

[hokiboshi]

well if both of the teams (akatsuki and espada) were placed in an even battlefield, using the same kind of force (lets stick with spirit force), and is able to see each other, like any other warring clan. it would be a tough fight, a riot maybe. but then again, the espada would have the upper hand. reasons are...

-they all have a natural tough defense (aka steel skin) which may protect them from ordinary weapons like swords or kunais. meaning they can always block any weapons thrown to them and maybe this should be sufficient enough to shield them from elemental jutsus or explosive traps

-when the going gets tough, they could still amplify their powers by going to release level 2. they may also use this to overpower Itachi's mangekyo sharingan (if it can be overpowered)

-though they may move with the same speed, the espada are more adept at short distance combat, but they still have the cero for mid and long distance bouts

however, i think they would have a difficult time with the akatsuki, why?

-their "steel skin" is made from tempering their bodies with spirit force, and against kisame's samehada which drains power, it would be rendered useless

-since Aizen, Ichimaru and Tousen are pure death gods, that means they are excluded from the bout, since it only mentions the 10 espadas which are arrancars. so the leadership of the espada would fall in the hands of espada #1 (sorry dont know his name nor his abilities). without Aizen's hypnosis or Tousen's sense voiding bankai, the akatsuki would have the upper hand via Itachi's Mangekyo sharingan

-the akatsuki have different fields of speciality, making them a very good all around team (if we include deidara and sasori in the mix). this can be used to their advantage since one can just stick to being a long distance fighter (like deidara) while his melee buddies take the front line, besides sasori also has a private army of puppets, adding up to the numbers game in favor of the akatsuki

[Bragi]

i object! akatsuki!

Espada! Grimmjow rockz! it suck though i still have no idea on his release form! *dang!*

[Katsu]

well if both of the teams (akatsuki and espada) were placed in an even battlefield, using the same kind of force (lets stick with spirit force), and is able to see each other, like any other warring clan. it would be a tough fight, a riot maybe. but then again, the espada would have the upper hand. reasons are...

-they all have a natural tough defense (aka steel skin) which may protect them from ordinary weapons like swords or kunais. meaning they can always block any weapons thrown to them and maybe this should be sufficient enough to shield them from elemental jutsus or explosive traps

-when the going gets tough, they could still amplify their powers by going to release level 2. they may also use this to overpower Itachi's mangekyo sharingan (if it can be overpowered)

-though they may move with the same speed, the espada are more adept at short distance combat, but they still have the cero for mid and long distance bouts

however, i think they would have a difficult time with the akatsuki, why?

-their "steel skin" is made from tempering their bodies with spirit force, and against kisame's samehada which drains power, it would be rendered useless

-since Aizen, Ichimaru and Tousen are pure death gods, that means they are excluded from the bout, since it only mentions the 10 espadas which are arrancars. so the leadership of the espada would fall in the hands of espada #1 (sorry dont know his name nor his abilities). without Aizen's hypnosis or Tousen's sense voiding bankai, the akatsuki would have the upper hand via Itachi's Mangekyo sharingan

-the akatsuki have different fields of speciality, making them a very good all around team (if we include deidara and sasori in the mix). this can be used to their advantage since one can just stick to being a long distance fighter (like deidara) while his melee buddies take the front line, besides sasori also has a private army of puppets, adding up to the numbers game in favor of the akatsuki

I agree, therefore I think Espada's and the Akatsuki are even.

=]

[Tenchi Masaki]

Posting this in the Bleach discussion forum doesn't help Akatsuki's popularity in this battle either.

But on a serious note, you can't compare the two groups if they ever to clash with one another. There's too many rules and regulations that would prevent them from even having an amusing fight as stated by some of you already. Assuming that the Akatsuki members can see and deal physical harm to the Espada aside, the fighting systems in both animes are completely different.

Bleach has over the top explosions and city to country (even possibly planetary) destroying techniques while in the land of Naruto the skills and fights consider a great deal of deception and outsmarting your opponent (although there are some fights that are just raw power against raw power, but those are few compared to the mind games everyone has to play with one another).

Since we do not know each sides full potential we can't give a fair assessment of the outcome to this duel of evil organizations. While some dispute the Akatsuki will gain Godly powers from the jinchuriki(sp?), how about the Espada when the Hougyoku is completed? There are also the mystery members of both teams with Akatsuki and Espadas yet to reveal themselves to the fanbase.

Basically it's impossible to give these two teams a proper fight analysis because of too many unknown variables. Without all the information none of us can give this a fair breakdown.

I know that Versus threads don't have to make sense to a point so for the sheer sake of answering this posts question:

The Espada would win based on sheer power. Although the Akatsuki have the intellect and cunning to rule the world, the Espada have the power to destroy it. Bleach's universe has a fighting system that rivals Dragonball Z in which each character has the potential to level an entire planet. Naruto is the thinking man's anime in which fights are carefully laid out and planned. There's a surprise every panel because everyone has some sort of trick up their sleeve. While this may give the denizens of Naruto an edge, Bleach can simply overwhelm them destroying any hope of "thinking through" the situation.

So although I can see Akatsuki putting up a fight at the very least, the Espada are just not even on the same page as Akatsuki. Seriously, they're not even in the same book or even in the same library.

End rant here.

[dark wrath]

definetly the espada becaus they are awsome

[Memento Mori]

Akatsuki all the way! YAY!

[Colonel Roy Mustang]

Dude, I think the Espada would completely pwn Naruto's little Akatsuki in no less than 10 seconds. I mean, think about it. What kind of defense would they have against a Cero blast? Not only that, but their rieatsu would be enough to kill all Akatsuki in a ten mile ratios. Putting the Espada against the Akatsuki is like putting DBZ's Majin Buu against FullMetal Alchemist's Edward Elric. Lol.

[Vampiric-Daemon]

The espada are all way stronger than the akatsuki, there's no question about that, but the actuall fight itself would be interesting because the akatsuki have other skills, the espada are just way faster and stronger. And they have swords, and they can basically fly as well

[The Blue Baron]

Espada would win simply cause the akatsuiki or whatever..arent all that great =/

[Loveless_Broken]

This one is very easy. The espada would win.
Cause the akatsuki cant see Death gods or hollows.
Thats would mean they have low raijutsu(sp?).
So the espada could eat there souls with no problem.
So that means who powerfull the akatsuki will get in charka and stuff.
They will never even be able to see them.

[Marshmallow Fluff]

I think the Espada. 8D

[-Destiny-]

I agree with you guys. The most likely last standing extremely dangerous group would be the Bleach's Espada.


You cant fight wat u cant see so the akatsuki will be a sitting duck.....Unless there is an akatsuki member similar to Zaraki Kenpachi xD..(i highly doubt that) (sharingan doesnt let u see dead people...lol) xD


Speed: Espada wins
Power:Espada wins
Strategy: Akatsuki win (espadas dont need to think....find and kill, ESPADA method)
Fighting skills: Espada win
Strenght: Espada win
Charka/Rietsu: Espada win
Ability: Akatsuki win
Armor: Espada win

You can never hide from the espada due to their ability 'Pesque'.
Ninjas usually need to hide. They will get caught for sure.

Cero can obliterate a town in a quick flash...

Ichigo couldnt even get past the espadas armour in Bankai form....ninjas stars, kunais will never ever scratch them espadas...let alone touch them (they will dodge it with ease)

While doing hand seals......it will leave u vulerable......a quick shunpo and a slash from behind will finish u off while ur making hand seals....usually the more powerful the techniques is, the longer it require to finish the bunch of hand seals in order to make the ninjutsu work..

Espada's can finish the akatsuki without using their Zanpaktou easily...THey have insane strenght.

Usually ninjas require to assess the situation and take the best available action....whilst the espadas dont give a dam about planning and attack with full force....

I have yet to witness the release form of a espada yet.(except for luppi...man he was quite weak).....i believe tat in tat form they can own anybody...

The Akatsuki probably cant even beat the bounto or captains........

So in a fair fight (if the akatsuki can see the espada) the Espada will win....