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    I found this awesome website this morning! http://www.softlookup.com/download.asp?id=2333

    you can dowload a word translator program from this url and it will translate words and phrases for you! Its really awesome, the only bad part is that you can only have it for 30 days without buying it. Its still great though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfman View Post
    I was just wondering if anyone here will/can help me learn Japanese. I want to move to Japan once I am out of school and I love everything about Japan. I want to learn so bad. Please help! If you don't, I understand.
    If you go to a school that teaches Japanese....Like my highschool...take it. You actually learn pretty fast...if you pay attention.
    Another way is to buy the Japanese learning program at Best Buy or something....I never tried it before but it might be another good way to learn Japanese.

    Well anyways, I have Japanese midterm exam tomorrow...study study....tango o benkyoo shimasu (I might say that wrong ^^;;

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    Also, if you're desperate, you can always use this site: http://babelfish.altavista.com. Although it doesn't help you a lot in learning. Just translating into Japanese is all.

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    i think ( and i'm doing it too) that using kanji cards for learning kanji is still the best way. you can buy some from either a bookstore that sells tuttle but i prefer the 740 they sell on http://www.j-go.net

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    Meh, if you really want to learn. Please take a class that is pretty much the only way you will learn unless you try to do it your self... but beware you may get a stray from what the word might be and what it is...


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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonMoon View Post
    Also, if you're desperate, you can always use this site: http://babelfish.altavista.com. Although it doesn't help you a lot in learning. Just translating into Japanese is all.
    Machine translation is a bit bad. But still its worth a try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [unlimited] View Post
    Machine translation is a bit bad. But still its worth a try.
    Yes...it's better than nothing. ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil_Girl View Post
    Meh, if you really want to learn. Please take a class that is pretty much the only way you will learn unless you try to do it your self... but beware you may get a stray from what the word might be and what it is...
    if that was for me, meh, i'm only 13 and taking japanese as a subject at school for my exams in 2 years time

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    I wouldn't use babelfish. I've had it give odd translations even on simple sentences. I suppose it serves its purpose for some things, but I can't get it to work in French whose sentence structure and language elements are closer to English and when I've used it for Japanese...I just don't use it, but it's just my opinion. ^_^
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    i know one web site.. juz to learn a simple japanese n how to converse with it. try this http://www.japanese-online.com.







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    ehh well i guys can also try the www.japanese-online.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Mother View Post
    ehh well i guys can also try the www.japanese-online.com
    Already said.
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    I just so happen to almost speak the language. My neighbor is japanese, an imigrant one might say. Ok, tell me what ya wana know and I'll post it. Here are some simple phrases:

    Shiro- Colors
    Iro- White
    Kuro- Black
    Aka- Red
    Ao- Blue
    Yellow- Kiiro
    Purple- Mirasaki Iro
    Pink- Momo Iro/ Pinku
    Brown- Cha Iro
    What color is it? Nani iro desu ka

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    it's a difficult language bcuz a word can sound different each time u use it depending on the way u put it into a sentence. also i learned a couple of the small words first, arigato (are-e-got-o) means thank you. ect...

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    You've gotten that wrong - shiro is white, and iro means colour.

    Perhaps the only website I'd recommend is Jim Breen's WWWJDIC - http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/wwwjdic.html

    If you're intending on getting anywhere with Japanese, Babelfish will not help you. I repeat, Babelfish will not help you. The best way to learn Japanese is by taking classes, and doing plenty of self-study on the side.

    Self study ideas :-

    I recommend finding some kids novels (ones with the hiragana subtitles over the kanji) and transliterating the hiragana and kanji into romaji - this will help you recognise hiragana a lot faster, perhaps even pick up one or two kanji on the way.

    Next, find some more books without the hiragana subtitles and use the IME pad on your language bar to start drawing in the kanji. This will help with recognising kanji, and also getting the strokes right. Once you're doing it right, your success rate for finding kanji with the IME should improve.

    Try using the above dictionary to start translating the nouns and verbs; if you've been going to the classes diligently, you'll probably find you're picking up new words a lot quicker.

    I've been doing the above, and the number of kanji I can read has at least quadrupled, plus I can write better and recognise hiragana on sight. But I definitely recommend classes - you'll just make mistakes if you don't start at the bottom.

    Plus, I would leave translating spoken Japanese (i.e. fansubs) until you're more confident. Anime mostly uses very colloquial Japanese which is problematic when you don't have a good grasp of basic grammar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vAmPiRe_BlOoD View Post
    it's a difficult language bcuz a word can sound different each time u use it depending on the way u put it into a sentence. also i learned a couple of the small words first, arigato (are-e-got-o) means thank you. ect...
    Yep, that's true. It's really stricts as to how you say the word because it can mean a different word than the one you are trying to say.....seriously, it's more strict than my language. ^_^;;;

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    Yes, I must have miss typed it. I was in a rush so... sorry!
    Yes, if any of you need translations: please PM with the requests. Thanks!
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    Have you checked or asked at a school or university because i know that can be very helpful (not to mention free.) i am grasping the basics (i mean very basics) using internet sites, in preparation for next year when i go to university, where i will be taught properly.

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    Mhm, my classes at uni are free, which is great. You also get a proper qualification out of it. But honestly - anyone who reads this and is seriously interested in learning Japanese, please don't assume you can do it solely using your computer. You need to actually talk to Japanese people and learn properly otherwise you'll be just wasting your time.

    I also forgot to say - arigato is pronounced a-ri-ga-toh (ありがとう). not are-e-got-o.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MazzieEowyn View Post
    You've gotten that wrong - shiro is white, and iro means colour.

    Perhaps the only website I'd recommend is Jim Breen's WWWJDIC - http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/wwwjdic.html

    If you're intending on getting anywhere with Japanese, Babelfish will not help you. I repeat, Babelfish will not help you. The best way to learn Japanese is by taking classes, and doing plenty of self-study on the side.

    Self study ideas :-

    I recommend finding some kids novels (ones with the hiragana subtitles over the kanji) and transliterating the hiragana and kanji into romaji - this will help you recognise hiragana a lot faster, perhaps even pick up one or two kanji on the way.

    Next, find some more books without the hiragana subtitles and use the IME pad on your language bar to start drawing in the kanji. This will help with recognising kanji, and also getting the strokes right. Once you're doing it right, your success rate for finding kanji with the IME should improve.

    Try using the above dictionary to start translating the nouns and verbs; if you've been going to the classes diligently, you'll probably find you're picking up new words a lot quicker.

    I've been doing the above, and the number of kanji I can read has at least quadrupled, plus I can write better and recognise hiragana on sight. But I definitely recommend classes - you'll just make mistakes if you don't start at the bottom.

    Plus, I would leave translating spoken Japanese (i.e. fansubs) until you're more confident. Anime mostly uses very colloquial Japanese which is problematic when you don't have a good grasp of basic grammar.
    We all wish it were that simple lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by MazzieEowyn View Post
    I also forgot to say - arigato is pronounced a-ri-ga-toh (ありがとう). not are-e-got-o.
    How do you type in Hiragana??? plz plz plz tell me....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfman View Post
    I was just wondering if anyone here will/can help me learn Japanese. I want to move to Japan once I am out of school and I love everything about Japan. I want to learn so bad. Please help! If you don't, I understand.
    Um......Japanese is a hard language. So read closely to that they posted.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanzo View Post
    How do you type in Hiragana??? plz plz plz tell me....

    'Tis easy. I don't know how it works on Mac, but on XP go to Start -> Control Panel -> Regional and Language Options (under Classic View) -> Languages -> look around a bit for what you want. You'll know you've done it right when you get a little bar right beside the background program console in the bottom-right corner of your screen where you can select English or Japanese text.

    As for learning Japanese, and I'm not expert since I've only taken 1 class in it, but I would advise starting to learn by taking classes. Once you have a basic understanding of grammar, you can start picking up on random words in songs and anime. That's how I learned words like "Ai" (love) and "Hayaku" (vb. to run, adj. quickly), as well as some not-as tasteful phrases like "Kuso!" (equivalent to English "Dammit!"), "Baka" (equivalent to English "idiot"), and others which don't quite translate properly. It's also how I learned the casual pronouns "Boku", "Ore", and "Kimi" as well as a fair amount of the casual form of speaking (I've only learned formal form in class; casual form is next term). Then when you find a song you really like, pick up a Jap/Eng dictionary and look stuff up. That's how I learned words like "Imi" (meaning), "Itami" (pain), "Kotoba" (word/language), and "Subete" (equivalent to "everything", usually used as "Subete no N", meaning "all of N") (in case anyone is wondering, the song I looked these words up from is D-tecnolife by UVERworld).

    Eventually, you'll be able to pick up on silly jokes in Anime and realize why dubbed anime is so garbage. For example, there was a joke I saw in an episode of Full Moon wo Sagashite where a character mistook the word "人" (hito, people) for "ヒット" (hitto, "hit", like a hit song). Stuff like that doesn't translate properly. I still can't wait to see what happens when the 4th and 10th squads get introduced in Bleach on YTV and they have to translate "Shiro-chan" without killing the joke (the joke being that "Shiro-chan" is Hitsugaya Toushirou, who has white hair, hence the double-meaning, with the "shiro" in his name and the fact that "shiro" means "white", like his hair).
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