Originally Posted by
menchia
Germany, Europe, the USA are democratic goverments(Europe is mostly if not all democratic)
Europe is mostly democratic? Heh, there are a lot of differing political views stirring over there.
and that gives people the right to govern themselves, meaning the goverment shouldn't control who people form relationships with.
The Government enforces the law. If the people don't like it, they can force a change, and the Government will enforce it.
What gives the goverment the right to control people, or their buisness.
In some way, I do feel for them, especially when I read what she said in a "barely audible voice" however, as earnest as their feelings may be however, they are brother and sister and certain societal norms and standards must be enforced lest a state collapse into utter indecency and moral decay. If they allow incest, what next? Sex with 12 year olds? How far must the line be continually pushed? The world has a whole is quickly eroding to the point where all viewpoints, all urges, all wants are being accepted. The line has to be drawn at certain points before we all end up some messed up dystopian future like society such as one from Brave New World.
Incest is morally unsettiling but the goverment shouldn't overstep their boundarys. Just because they're siblings doesn't make them an unfit parent, that is the goverment trying to control the way you think and act.
"The state must not become a servant of the masses, but their master"
Oh, if it's so wrong, why not stop the marriage or separate them? They can't cause they have done nothing wrong and it is society that can't cope with them, not them not coping with society.
No, it is precisely them going against society. They knew beforehand incest was highly frowned upon from a moral, ethical and most of all scientific standpoint yet persisted in doing it.
Marriage, relationships are about love, and they love eachother in... that way, so it's not up to us to make the decision and if you try to stop them just cause you don't like it(meaning it's not hurting anyone(forget the kids)) then you are the lowest type of human being on this planet.
If they have a problem with it, perhaps they should leave Germany, you know, as Australia suggested when you have a problem with its country, instead of trying to be yet another stupid minority of whatever trying to change the rules to suit themselves.
Hold your opinions, but don't critisize them for their beliefs, thats like revolting against Christianity or Judaism, or any religion.
That's a bad thing?
Their beliefs should not be controlled by the goverment or anyone but themselves. The reason we do this is because we can't cope or understand their feelings, so we attack them to make them fall inline. We won't accept anything except the norm of society.
Is this track skipping or did I not already read that part?
Here's a question I ask you: All creature go back to 2 creatures, 1 male, 1 female, so if that is so then aren't we all related at some point in time?
Yeah, hundreds and hundreds of millions of years ago, to the point now where our DNA is so scattered that it no longer matters, and your point of how everyone may be technically incestual is rendered completely moot.
Don't discriminate those who are different from you for whatever reason it may be: Race, Religion, beliefs. Also, if it's so bad to marry your sister then why can some people marry their cousins? Einstein married his cousin and we don't insult him, so why do people feel to treat people like this unfairly. Is it because their not important enough to be left alone?
In that aspect, I think Einstein was retarded.
All in all, this is a very controversial issue, but I feel that we won't even try to give it a chance. Even if the law ended, the number of incests would only increase slightly just because of morality's(and not many would want to marry their sister, I wouldn't) influence on people.
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