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    Thumbs up what strengths beliefs or lack there of have..

    would you say this is a wrong generalization:
    1. religion - power of the masses
    2. agnostic - confused (i just want to keep living)
    3. atheist - power of the individual
    what is your opinion?


    and please give any suggestions


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    Religion = opium of the masses

    Use of religion = useful to rulers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sagat View Post
    Religion = opium of the masses

    Use of religion = useful to rulers

    yes that too
    sadly thats very true

    though you kind of have to think "what are the leaders then?"
    are they just fooling themselves
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    I think religion is believing in somthing because you cant believe in yourself.
    When someone is Atheist, its not that they dont believe in god really its that they are not religious.
    But its not really power

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grim Scythe View Post
    yes that too
    sadly thats very true

    though you kind of have to think "what are the leaders then?"
    are they just fooling themselves
    Nah, its useful cause it lets them use it as a tool to control the masses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sagat View Post
    Nah, its useful cause it lets them use it as a tool to control the masses.
    Because their morons
    That isnt a way to have Religion, people just warp it to suit their own needs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grim Scythe View Post
    yes that too
    sadly thats very true

    though you kind of have to think "what are the leaders then?"
    are they just fooling themselves
    yes along with everyone naiive enough to believe them
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaucyNinja View Post
    Because their morons
    That isnt a way to have Religion, people just warp it to suit their own needs
    actually that seems to be what all modern religions are about
    their are all sorts of leaders
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grim Scythe View Post
    would you say this is a wrong generalization:
    1. religion - power of the masses
    2. agnostic - confused (i just want to keep living)
    3. atheist - power of the individual
    what is your opinion?
    Sagat summarized religion pretty well.

    Your definition of agnostic is wrong. There's weak and strong agnosticism, weak agnosticism is "confused", whilst strong agnosticism is a statement. Science, for an example, is inherently ignostic, due to the unfalsifiability of god. That does not mean science is confused.

    Atheism as the power of the individual is true to an extent, though it is not to be taken as that atheists can't cooperate or function as a group.

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    Religion is in itself propaganda, and it is used heavily in that sense today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Of Shred View Post
    Religion is in itself propaganda, and it is used heavily in that sense today.
    All information is inherently propaganda.

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    Two prime examples of explanation, makes a whole lot of sense and I think you can see the workings of political propaganda at the very moment in the war and so on.

    "All propaganda has to be popular and has to adapt its spiritual level to the perception of the least intelligent of those towards whom it intends to direct itself. The great masses of the people will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one."
    —Adolf Hitler, President of the Reichstag and Reich Chancellor, Nazi Party

    "Naturally, the common people don't want war. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    Sagat summarized religion pretty well.

    Your definition of agnostic is wrong. There's weak and strong agnosticism, weak agnosticism is "confused", whilst strong agnosticism is a statement. Science, for an example, is inherently ignostic, due to the unfalsifiability of god. That does not mean science is confused.

    Atheism as the power of the individual is true to an extent, though it is not to be taken as that atheists can't cooperate or function as a group.
    yes i liked Sagats summariztion

    i apparently need to research agnosticism more because i have never heard of an ignostic( i see that statement was presumptious of me)
    science itself is not confused but the lead people of it are

    true about atheists but part of what i meant was that atheism is more of a personal choice
    best done through much thought and consideration

    and in general religion is forced onto people seeing as most people arent told at a young age that they can suddenly worship whatever they wish to
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