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    how do you guys feel about american animes like kappa mikey, w.i.t.c.h avatar: the last air bender and mangas like peach fuzz (well i think was made in the us but im not sure. the characters have names like 'amanda' which is english.) personaly i do not mind them, some people think there posers but anime is really a art style in my opinion. some of them like w.i.t.c.h i think are really stupid.

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    I really don't have a strong opinion on american anime. I think it can suck or it can be good just like Japanese anime.

    The thing I do have a problem with however is Canadian anime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Gentleman View Post
    The thing I do have a problem with however is Canadian anime.
    Canadia has anime...strange

    I love Avatar but i cant stand Kappa Mikey for my life(they're making fun of anime i just know it!!)
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    The only "American" anime I've ever found interesting in it's own right is Avatar: The Last Airbender (really, that's such a good show). Other than that, I have a bit of distaste for anything that's branded "anime" when it's not really anime.

    While I do agree it is an artstyle, shows like W.I.T.C.H. and Totally Spies don't really need the anime artstyle to tell the story. To me, it seems like they're just using that kind of animation as something "cool". And tacking "anime" on those types of shows make me sort of angry - it's like they're degrading what anime really is. If the storyline is appropriate enough for anime-esque art, I can accept it. But girls being spies while omg luvin dat 1 guy hes soooo hot i luv clothes im just a typcial grl!!1 ? No. Just...no. It's insulting.

    I've read that Kappa Mikey is sort of a tribute to anime. But I've never seen the show, so I can't really say much on that one.

    Teen Titans is another anime-like show. I don't really get why they decided to use anime expressions for a show with characters from American comic books. o.O Though, the show is alright. It's not bad or anything. I don't know. -__-;

    I never read Peach Fuzz, but wasn't that made from a person winning some kind of manga contest?

    I just don't like the idea of imitating anime when it's not. Someone convince me otherwise.
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    the only american anime I like... (not even sure if its american) it's Teen Titans. all others are "meh"
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    i really don't care one way or another if it's american or japanese or chinese or canadian or whatever...if it's to my liking i'll watch it, if it's not i won't...the same as regualar anime...

    as for avatar i love this series and watch it whenever a new episode plays or when i'm bored and i know it's playing...i just think that katara really needs a new hairdo...

    as for american manga why not read it...i love shutterbox and that's american made...theres korean and japanese manga's why not american? just like anime as long as i like it i'll read it...
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    I HATE Kappa Mikey! They're making fun of anime! XP

    I really love Avatar Airbender. It's probably one of my favorite shows! I really love it. I mean, it started out kind of boring, but it got REALLY good. The characters and plot are awesome!

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    i love avatar. and when you say 'kappa mikey is making fun of anime' it really helps if post are detailed..

    and yes, the creators of peach fuzz did win a manga contest, but its a real manga now and you can buy it in stores.

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    Okay, now I can clarify this: Kappa Mikey isn't 'making fun of anime'. In an interview with Anime Insider, the creators specifically say that they are not making fun of it; Rather, it is a homage to anime. The concept for the show is basically to juxtapose both the anime and American cartoon styles. Apparently, the directors and animators are big anime fans.

    I've never seen the show, so I can't say anything for or against it personally. Just thought you'd like to know, for all of you screaming out there that it's making fun of it.

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    japon anime is beter then amercan anime

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abstract Me View Post
    Okay, now I can clarify this: Kappa Mikey isn't 'making fun of anime'. In an interview with Anime Insider, the creators specifically say that they are not making fun of it; Rather, it is a homage to anime. The concept for the show is basically to juxtapose both the anime and American cartoon styles. Apparently, the directors and animators are big anime fans.
    I totally agree with Abstract Me on this topic, that Kappa Mikey is not making fun of Anime. For me it all depends, I like both types of anime, if it be Japanese, or in American format. In some cases, and in other cases, I do, and do not like a series for their formats. However, I didn't mind Kappa Mikey. I don't really see it as making fun of Anime, I see it more as working side by side with anime, just with a different format.

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    I hate it when American animation studieos make anime anime style cartoons because it's always amied at kids and the plots are similar. If you have someone who does'nt watch anime then watchs one of these cartoons they may think that it is an anime because of the similarities with REAL anime. The Japanese anime is the real thing and it is aimed at all ages.

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    True, true, so very true

    America has butchered some very well known and like Japanese animes. Not that I'm pointing fingers *cough 4kids cough* but they've seriously killed some. Frickin voice dubs and lack of subtitles. They maimed Tokyo Mew Mew (Mew Mew Power?!?) and plenty of others.

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    There is no such thing as american anime. Anime is japanese cartoons, This topic is rediculous.
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    originaly posted by Hardcore
    There is no such thing as american anime. Anime is japanese cartoons, This topic is rediculous.
    I agree...You cannot call american cartoons anime,it's just wrong,as for w.i.t.c.h. it is ridiculous,that stuff is trying to be anime,but it's imposible...
    Anyway,I don't like american cartoons...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamashimura View Post
    I agree...You cannot call american cartoons anime,it's just wrong,as for w.i.t.c.h. it is ridiculous,that stuff is trying to be anime,but it's imposible...
    Anyway,I don't like american cartoons...

    I agree as well
    American "anime" are really just cartoons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardcore View Post
    There is no such thing as american anime. Anime is japanese cartoons, This topic is rediculous.
    American, Japanese, Canadian, European, Chinese, Korean...

    They're all the same thing. Moving drawings, or in some cases, moving computer generated images.

    Cartoons
    Or animation if you want to try and make it sound more mature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardcore View Post
    There is no such thing as american anime. Anime is japanese cartoons, This topic is rediculous.
    Anime style is an art form originating from Japan. That doesn't necessarily mean that an artist drawing in the anime style has to be in Japan for his/her art style to be considered anime art. I would like to think that my art style would be considered anime style, and that where I'm living is irrelevant.

    However I am in agreement that this Americanized anime style in the shows you're mentioning is a slight misrepresentation of how anime is "supposed" to be done, therefore it cannot accurately be considered anime art. I do agree with those of you that said this particular "americanized" anime style is a mixture of traditional cartoons and the anime style. Which is all well and good, I think it has a nice effect. But it's not quite achieved the title of anime.

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    I would have to agree, anime doesn't mean it's FROM Japan. We have a word for things that are from Japan. That's Japanese.


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    OH geez not this old sementic question again --

    Anime itself has a multitude of animation style, to claim there is such a thing as an 'anime style' is ridiculous. To me Anime is not about the artstyle, it's about the writing.

    An 'anime' is a cartoon written by someone who is influenced by Japanese culture. Plain and simple.

    'manga' on the other hand is slightly different has it has it's own set of publishing rules that when applied to an occidental work can make it an 'american' or 'french' manga (the French have some already sucessful title in that domain BTW).

    Anyway I'm a fan of ALL animation and I will watch it when it's good. Plain and simple. Complaining about the style of the animation being a 'rip off' or a 'mockery' is just moot.

    What Canadian Anime? You mean Di-Gata Defenders? Di-Gata Defenders is awesome...what are you complaining about? Or maybe you didn't like Cybersix?

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    OMG!Come on,Anime are japanese!
    For the others exist word animated cartoons,and animated movies...
    I read about it,and anime is name for japanese,there's no such thing as japanese anime - that's anime,and there's no such thing as american,canadian not even arabian anime - it's all animated movies and series,NOT ANIME!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamashimura View Post
    OMG!Come on,Anime are japanese!
    For the others exist word animated cartoons,and animated movies...
    I read about it,and anime is name for japanese,there's no such thing as japanese anime - that's anime,and there's no such thing as american,canadian not even arabian anime - it's all animated movies and series,NOT ANIME!
    Where did you read that at?? For your information, the Japanese themselves call all forms of animation "anime", not just productions in their own country.

    In fact, allow me to do the proper research for you:

    Quote Originally Posted by Taken from: Wikipedia
    In Japan, the term does not specify an animation's nation of origin or style; it is used as a blanket term to refer to all forms of animation from around the world. In English, main dictionary sources define anime as "a Japanese style of motion-picture animation" or "a style of animation developed in Japan". Thus, non-Japanese works are sometimes called anime if they borrow stylistically from Japanese animation.
    Like I said, the japanese call all forms of animation "anime". Even in English, anime is not defined as having to "come from Japan". It is simply referred to as a style derived from Japan. Because something had "developed" there does not necessarily mean it is resticted to that country alone either, so don't bother throwing that in my face. And, I believe that last sentence speaks for itself, thank you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Taken from: Wikipedia
    Since anime or animēshon is used to describe all forms of animation, Japanimation is used to distinguish Japanese work from that of the rest of the world.
    Quote Originally Posted by Taken from: Wikipedia
    However, some anime are co-productions with non-Japanese companies like the Cartoon Network. Thus, anime is no longer specific to the Japanese market.
    To further emphasize my point up there ^

    I still stand by what I have said in my previous post.
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    Woops...my bad...
    But still I think that jap is anime,and everything else are cartoons...
    Live with it,my opinion will not change,since you cannot call anime a cartoon(I mean,it is cartoon,but it has deep story,and it's way more different than any other cartoon)...
    In anime you can sometimes recognize your dreams and hopes;anime are telling universal story about humans,about their growing up,about love,pain and sorrow,about human life...
    They are showing us that world isn't full of superheroes(unlike american cartoons<cough,superman,cough>),they are showing us spirituality of japanese ppl,and most important-every anime has deep seeded story in itself,and there are not many ppl who really cares about it so they cannot see it...
    And finally,anime are showing us that everything has it's end,and that end may not always be positive...
    These facts I haven't seen in any american cartoon(except some disney's),so that's why I believe that you cannot compare anime with american cartoons,and this may sound really weird,but that's wy I respect anime,and I believe that every anime(no matter how much someones says it suks)is good on it's own way...
    There...this was of off theme,but nevermind,I just said what I feel...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamashimura View Post
    But still I think that jap is anime,and everything else are cartoons...
    Live with it,my opinion will not change,since you cannot call anime a cartoon(I mean,it is cartoon,but it has deep story,and it's way more different than any other cartoon)...
    If you ask me, fact should come before opinion. The fact is, the definition of "cartoon" encompasses anime, and anime is not some magical special creation that surpasses all of human language to completely defy the known definitions for things.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamashimura View Post
    In anime you can sometimes recognize your dreams and hopes;anime are telling universal story about humans,about their growing up,about love,pain and sorrow,about human life...
    They are showing us that world isn't full of superheroes(unlike american cartoons<cough,superman,cough>),they are showing us spirituality of japanese ppl,and most important-every anime has deep seeded story in itself,and there are not many ppl who really cares about it so they cannot see it...
    And finally,anime are showing us that everything has it's end,and that end may not always be positive...
    Yeah? Not full of superheroes? You don't watch much anime do you? Look at shows like Pokemon and Yugioh. They're considered anime, and they're just as much "superhero" style as Superman is.

    Ever watched the older Batman animated series? That had a much more dark feel than any American series you seem to ever have seen.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hamashimura View Post
    These facts I haven't seen in any american cartoon(except some disney's),so that's why I believe that you cannot compare anime with american cartoons,and this may sound really weird,but that's wy I respect anime,and I believe that every anime(no matter how much someones says it suks)is good on it's own way...
    There...this was of off theme,but nevermind,I just said what I feel...
    So you respect the art of all animation from Japan, because some things from Japan have sad endings?
    Do you realize the racist and stereotypical ramblings that you're spewing here?
    Not all anime is sad and deep and ridiculous. Not all American shows are shallow and heroic.

    Drop your need to apply importance to something there is not. Enjoy anime for the art that it is, and don't be some ridiculous elitist, just because it comes from a country whose culture you clearly don't understand at all.


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    originally posted by Regex
    You don't watch much anime do you?
    Hm...I watch anime since I was 4,that's mean I watch anime for 15 years...
    I'm not telling that every anime is sad and deep and ridiculous,I'm telling that every anime shows us that everything has it's end that MAY NOT always be positive...
    And I study japanese history and culture for 6 years,it's imposible that I don't understand it...
    Yes,Pokemon and YGO are full of superheroes,but still they can teach us something,don't you agree,just like Dragon ball?And just where's in pokemon superhero?Ash and pikachu?Come on,that's true,but it just isn't the same way as superman...
    And it's true,I havent wathced batman animation,just batman vs. dracula...
    Anyway,I don't respect all animation from Japan cuz of sad endings,I respect it because they have that something in themselves...
    You got me all wrong,I'm not a racist or anything like that,and I do understand jap culture,the fact is that anime surpasses american cartoons in many ways...
    Now no offense,but do you understand japanese culture?You told me that I don't understand their culture,so do you study japanese culture?Do you study their history?Do you have japanese friends that told you about their own culture?I do...
    Well,I might have wrote in unappropriate way,but I'm not best at english( i dont know every single word),but still there's no point in attacking my thought's that you have clearly missunderstood...even though you were right,cuz when you read that you really can think that way,but still...
    And I havent said that every american show is shallow and heroic,I never said that,infact there are some cartoons I find really good!And I never said that I don't respect american shows...
    And I havent said either that every anime show is deep,I said that every anime has that deep seeded message in themselves,and not many ppl can realize it and learn from them...And it seems you're one of them...
    I know I'm doing wrong arguing with mod here,but you have missunderstood my thoughts...
    I hope you're not mad now...
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