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    There are so many different gundam series it makes me wonder which was the first one. Was it g gundam??? I've seen gundam wing, endless walts, parts of gundam seed and currently following the new Gundam 00 (double 0) which is going pretty good so far...

    So about my question???

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    Quote Originally Posted by hiddenwater View Post
    There are so many different gundam series it makes me wonder which was the first one. Was it g gundam??? I've seen gundam wing, endless walts, parts of gundam seed and currently following the new Gundam 00 (double 0) which is going pretty good so far...

    So about my question???
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Suit_Gundam
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    Quote Originally Posted by hiddenwater View Post
    There are so many different gundam series it makes me wonder which was the first one. Was it g gundam??? I've seen gundam wing, endless walts, parts of gundam seed and currently following the new Gundam 00 (double 0) which is going pretty good so far...

    So about my question???
    Gundam has lots of different universes that have less to nothing in plot relation with eachother while within the same timeline, the series form a sort of "history".

    Original Timeline: Universal Century (UC)
    The UC is the largest, 1st and original timeline, it has the most series and sidestories and probably makes most sense. A large deal of UC serie are targetted towards a mature audience and is always kept track of by old school fans.

    -Mobile Suit Gundam (1st Gundam)
    -Z Gundam
    -ZZ Gundam
    -Char's Counterattack
    -Victory Gundam
    -Guyndam F91
    -0080: War in the Pocket
    -0083: Stardust Memories
    -The 8th MS Team
    -Z Gundam: A New Translation
    -MS IgLoo (The Hidden One Year War/Apocalypse 0079)

    The UC also holds a truckload of mangas with sidestories as well as novels.


    The other stuff: Alternate Universes (AU)
    AUs are all the other universes people made up for Gundam, they mostly live a hype for a few years and then get dropped. Nonetheless, the AU holds a lot of popular series, as it got into cartoon network and all. Most people and beginners have started with an AU.

    Future Century:

    -Mobile Fighter G Gundam

    After Colony:

    -New Mobile Report Gundam Wing
    -Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz

    After War:

    -Gundam X

    Cosmic Era:

    -Mobile Suit Gundam SEED
    -Gundam SEED Destiny

    Anno Domini:

    -Gundam 00


    Correct Century:
    The Correct Century is kind of special, Turn A Gundam is supposed to have the essence of all Gundams, some timelines note it to happen thousands of years after the Universal Century (being the only AU connected with it in some way), well, see for yourself.

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    wooow....well i don't think i got as much info in wikipedia...

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    yea go figure and i thought i knew every thing about gundams and the machines. seems i need to study once again, but i have so many specs and every thing don't know if i can remember them all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hiddenwater View Post
    There are so many different gundam series it makes me wonder which was the first one. Was it g gundam??? I've seen gundam wing, endless walts, parts of gundam seed and currently following the new Gundam 00 (double 0) which is going pretty good so far...

    So about my question???
    I think you cant put all gundam series into the linear timelines like UC(original gundam timeline) into AD (Gundam 00 timeline). I mean UC is happened after AD. uhh i forgot when but im sure AD in Gundam 00 is more future then the last UC series yet it seems more primitive since we cant find any collony and space travleing just active around atmosfer.

    I mean look at glorious time UC, Collony scater around space and human can go to Jupiter (Jupiteris space ship wich led by paptipus shirocco (Uhh i hope i didnt missspell his name) in Z gundam)
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    I'm not trying to discredit Red Phantoms or something because the background of his thoughts is correct, but U.C. doesn't necessarily happen after AD.

    In fact, old UC timelines say that UC started at the year 2045/46 as the first space colony is constructed, in that manner UC 0079 (~1st Gundam) would be ~AD 2175. On the other hand, 00 seems rather far behind on technology, even though its AD 2307 Beam weapons count as new technology and in the beginning GN dispersion is something unsuspected, whereas in U.C. 0079 Minovsky dispersion already belongs to everyday life.

    This again shows that two different Gundam timelines should not be considered linking to eachother and possibly that very old UC timelines trying to link it to AD shouldn't be trusted, ESPECIALLY not as attempt to link it to Gundam 00
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    Honestly, I'm purist in terms of timeline. I dislike the idea of linking two series with different timeline just for the sake of it has Gundam in it. Unless the series production clearer state it it has connection (official news material/statement), I can accept it.

    In other note, the 2nd Season of Gundam 00 is already aired in Japan. My first impression of the first episode of the 2nd Season? Uncertain.

    Looks like they using Zeta Gundam formula, A-LAW is like Titans reincarnation in AD timeline and Kataron is sort like AEUG minus the Gundam. We don't know where Celestial Beings stands; either upholding principles of Aeolia Schenberg (I see Neo-Zeon here) or siding with either one of the faction
     
    most probably with Kataron
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    The ending credits animation just almost killed the whole suspense and thrill of the series, since it giving hint of what's to come. Well, thank you, Mr. Director. Also, they burrowed the idea of a dead character on end of the last season of being miraculously survived and alive in the next season from previous Gundam. Sort like every Gundam series must have one of such character
     
    I guessing there two groups who love this; one who support Feldt Grace X Lockon Stratos pairing and Lockon fangirls (boys)
    . However, it good to learn what had happen to all the characters in the last season. One of the of surprise is justify the connection between Saji and Louise in first Season into the 2nd.

    I've a mixed feeling of how the 2nd Season plot will flow. I hope it have the enough Gundam politics and intrigue also more character development to keep me entertain. Mecha brawl and romance just the side show that includes in the whole package.
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    What's actually the diffrence between Gundam Wing/Seed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterDream View Post
    What's actually the diffrence between Gundam Wing/Seed?
    the names

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    And the characters,is my guess?

    Relina is annoying..

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    Is there anyone but me who actually liked G Gundam? Despite the sorry storyline, tournaments can be fun.

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    OMG G-Gundam is da best lol
    its funny and interesting to watch
    Gundam Wing sux, I don't know about SEED, but I hope its better than Wing...
    I haven't saw all Gundam series, but I think Zeta and G are best from what I saw. And maybe this new 00(Zero?) haven't seen it, right now finishing Wing(sux hard omg...) and watching 0083 next.
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    Wing was acutally one of my favorite series, i thought it had a VERY unique cast of gundams and weapons, and the plot line was just fine.

    0083 is good too, youll enjoy that i think

    SEED is a good one, but not so much SEED Destiny, abunch of the main characters really pissed me off

    00 is probably my new favorite gundam series, it really has a unique plot line as well and the tactics and plot turns are fantastic, great set of characters as well



    What's actually the diffrence between Gundam Wing/Seed?
    ALOT

    wing is based on the fight between the earth and some opposing colonies, the colonist sent gundams to potentially protect them and take over the earth, but plans change and the gundams end up fighting for the good of the universe as a whole more so. Also they were called gundams because they were built from a material called Gundamiam Alloy which was a very strong metal created in space far away so it was very rare.

    seed and seed destiny are about the war between regular humans or "naturals" (the earth alliance), and coordinators (superior "test tube" humans, who are naturally better in almost every way.)(ZAFT) one of the coordinators accidentally joins up the the human side in order to protect his friends (because he has no bias) and in the proccess end up fighting a very good friend of his from his childhood. the term gundam in this series is based on the operating system used to control the mobile suits which generally stands for General Unilateral Neuro - Link Dispersive Autonomic Maneuver

    theres alot of info i missed that you can easily look up on wikipedia if your really interested to know
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    A question, my brother told me that Gundam Seed Destiny will have a continuation and it's Gundam Seed Genesis. He also told me that Athrun and Luna Maria's sister (I forgot her name) will have children. I got a copy of that picture where Athrun had children with Luna's sister. Is GS Genesis real? Because I just found a forum named Gundam Seed Genesis.

    I'd really like Athrun and Cagalli together but it seems not possible. T-T


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    hey there's going to be another gundam 00 next year and i think they might take the fight to jupiter or something, probably against aliens

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackrosetwilight View Post
    hey there's going to be another gundam 00 next year and i think they might take the fight to jupiter or something, probably against aliens
    That would be the death of Gundam.

    It's already had to deal with the horrible G, Wing, SEED, SEED Destiny, and now 00, further and further pushing itself away from Real Mecha as Gundam practically defined it. If aliens were thrown into the mix, it just wouldn't be Gundam anymore.

    What I'd like to see out of Gundam is for it to go back to it's roots, and maybe expand upon the UC timeline.

    No more unnecessarily whiny(Seed), emo(Wing), or hyper-homoerotic(00) characters. I'd love to see it go back to being the epic military drama that it was, not a drama with a bit of military here and there.

    He'll I'd even stand for a Kidou Senshi Gundam remake(in terms of animation and effects. I think producers would be cruxified if they altered the story), since they already re-made Casshern and the Mazinger remake is about to begin airing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xero XIII View Post
    That would be the death of Gundam.

    It's already had to deal with the horrible G, Wing, SEED, SEED Destiny, and now 00, further and further pushing itself away from Real Mecha as Gundam practically defined it. If aliens were thrown into the mix, it just wouldn't be Gundam anymore.

    What I'd like to see out of Gundam is for it to go back to it's roots, and maybe expand upon the UC timeline.

    No more unnecessarily whiny(Seed), emo(Wing), or hyper-homoerotic(00) characters. I'd love to see it go back to being the epic military drama that it was, not a drama with a bit of military here and there.

    He'll I'd even stand for a Kidou Senshi Gundam remake(in terms of animation and effects. I think producers would be cruxified if they altered the story), since they already re-made Casshern and the Mazinger remake is about to begin airing.
    whoops never mind had the translation wrong a movie will be made 2010 not another series

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xero XIII View Post

    No more unnecessarily whiny(Seed), emo(Wing), or hyper-homoerotic(00) characters. I'd love to see it go back to being the epic military drama that it was, not a drama with a bit of military here and there.
    Yes, seed was whiny. Yes, wing was emo. But then again all freakin Gundam have their emo whiny moments, even in the older one.
    You always know what Gundam will bring you men in weird mask and strange moments. Even uncomfortable ones.

    I disagree, however, on Gundam 00 being homoerotic. I always saw it as the Meisters as brothers.
    And because they were brothers they cared for one another. And eh hum Allelejuah and Lyle had girlfriends.
    Setsuna was dating a Gundam, and Teira Veda.
    I'm joking but in one episode they say:
     
    Aleljuah says Marie, Lyle says Anew, Teira says Veda, and Setsuna says Gundam...in a sense they are comparing Gundam and Veda to the two people lovers. I thought it was hilarious.


    Personally, I think Gundam 00 was the better of any Gundam series. Gundam 00 was the best.


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    I disagree, however, on Gundam 00 being homoerotic. I always saw it as the Meisters as brothers.
    And because they were brothers they cared for one another. And eh hum Allelejuah and Lyle had girlfriends.
    You have no idea how scary fangirls can be. Being brothers only makes it more worth for them to ship it up.

    Setsuna says Gundam
    While you were finding it amusing that Setsuna said it, the japanese already made an internet meme out of that.

    This is a Japanese wedding certificate.




    Name: Setsuna F. - Seiei / Ex - ia

    How you met/fell in love: ORE GA GANDAMU DA! (I am the gundam!)

    Occupation: Groom: Gundam / Bride: Gundam

    Other notes: EXIA! ANNIHILATE THE TARGET!

    Signatures: Setuna F. Seiei / Exia

    (All handwritings are from the same person, being Setsuna, though usually both have to fill the form)
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    sparkly periwinkle you are awesome :3

    i disagree on the miesters being brothers

    i saw them more as best friend types with (first lockon) being a sort of emotional crutch for everyone giving advice

    hey 2nd lockon did too XD


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    Hey! Why aren't Haros included into this discussion!?

    I love wafers!




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    because lockon sadly pwns haro's XD


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    Don't listen to him, he black devil Haro is corrupting his mind. His exposure to renegade Haros of Gundam 00 are confusing him.

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    Fortunately it is not all lost. For those are no threat compared to the vile Haro-bugs of Turn A Gundam. If he met one of those he wouldn't be living as of now.
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    Haros own everything!

    Oh yeah, I got this from a friend:

    so i herd you liek mudkipz.

    I love wafers!




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