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Favorite character: Kiba
Kiba is a nice guy who who same attude as Naruto but unlike Naruto, he doesn't mess up a mission and the fact he is dog person just adds on why I love him.
Least favorite characters: Ino and Sakura
Both are annoying, for now I can't find the words to discribe them both...
Last edited by Sansukou; 12-20-2006 at 05:41 PM.
What I mean is that Sasuke is a never-ending growth of pessimism. Instead of getting any good things from his friends. He's becoming even worse. He's not happy to see Naruto improving and worry instead that he'll be surpassed. Wtf! is that! an influence of the bloodshed that he saw in his past and his helplessness at that time. Emotional effect? mental? or maybe all aspects. Hatred and Pride and other arousing negative one's are behind that attitude of him. Well, Neiji has pride and hatred, but he isn't that bad to go far that he would become evil and involve a mass of people and seek revenge.Originally Posted by Mugetsu
Now, regarding how cruel his past was, yes, the inhuman killing of the Uchicha Clan by his brother is just terrible and would cause trauma to Sasuke being the only witness. He's like an enduring victim that had become twisted. While I pity him on that, his constant showing of negative attitudes in spite of how his friends and the people of Konoha helped and took care of him; he's gone too far. For a second thought, Neiji's past(effects 'til present) would match those of Sasuke since other than the loss of a father, he was like deceived by the real cause of his fathers death(though it was for a greater purpose) for he was never told about the real thing. Plus he's ought to obey a sort of responsiblity that the clan laid on him even if it's against his will.
And while I'm not sure how he sees his father when he found out about the truth, he somehow managed to let go of the past and move on. And lets look at Neiji now... But then, Neiji's case was already resolved. He's good now, while yeah, Sasuke is currently a bad guy.
Peace.. ^^
Last edited by Uno_Caste; 12-20-2006 at 07:10 PM.
Thanks for the cool set, Thornwillow.
dude... no... Sasuke is not a never-ending growth of pessimism. He starts out actually getting BETTER... he sacrifices himself to save naruto (vs Haku... i think thats the name) then he pushes himself beyond his limits and activates the cursed seal to try and save sakura (vs Gaara) in fact until AFTER the battle with Gaara he's on the track to be a good guy. Its not until after that battle that things go down hill.
He's afraid of being in the same position with naruto as he was with itachi that why his postion as the best is so important to him. He's afraid to be the one playing catch up again. It is a subconcious association with being second best to causing/being unable to stop the death of his entire clan. This gives him a paranoia of not being no. 1. He associates being number 2 with Itachi.
So he does learn from his friends but its just that he then has a number of incidents that conflict with this (him getting the crap beaten out of him by itachi all while itachi isn't interested in him among others). Its sort of like, if i may make a horrible comparision to an awesome book which shouldn't be compared to something as trivial as Naruto, but it is sort of like Candide. Horrible things happen to a person, but Candide is blindly optimistic through out saying "this is the best of all possible worlds". Sasuke has many bad things happen to him both in his childhood and after. Truth be told he does have friends but its like scratching a rash. It feels good for a moment but the itch just comes back and this time worse then before.
P.S. Candide by Voltaire is an amazing book of French literature and absurdism. All should read.
The tragedy of life comes not from pain, despair, sorrow, or even death; but the constant annihilating amnesia that begs us to forget we live.
Not never-ending but inconsistent yet increasing pessimism. I think that'd be a fair and the right term. xD
Then again the main reason why I don't seem to like her, is his usual propensity to evoke and adopt negative attributes from one to another negative attribute. Thats is normal in his case though. It's part of his character development...only that I can't seem to appreciate it in that manner.
Thanks for the cool set, Thornwillow.
Not really. Because before he came to that revealation he believed that he had indeed killed naruto, what with the whole neck snap and all? Only after he got his bootay handed to him did he realise he was in the wrong.Don't forget that he realizes he's being a hypocrite and doesn't kill Naruto at the end of the arc because it be like his brother and says "I will gain power my own way." Because itachi is manipulating him.
I dunno, you said he recognized him as an "equal". Well, "I left you alive on a whim" is not something you say to your equal half. Yes, he's a flawed character which makes him more human. Every character has character flaws, subtle as they may be. But sasuke flat out contradicts himself. And is just...an annoying person, and though I can respect that he is the most human character I also can't STAND his personality.Look at his actions more and you'll see someone determined to do to mutually exclusive things and trying to walk a fine line between while they tear him apart.
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Sasuke's past is his foundation of his negativity. He was not strong enough to let it go and live his own life. He can still fight his brother if they ever crossed paths. Sasuke's tough but he is not tough enough.
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Indeed he did try to kill Naruto but it was more an act in the heat of emotion then one of cold intent. Ever one does things they later regret when their blood is hot. And sasuke did not get "his bootay handed to him". If you remember he was the on that was still conscious. He kept pace with naruto, loosing when naruto drew on his demon chakra then regain his edge by drawing on the cursed seal (I mention this to stave off anyone saying sasuke only won because of the cursed seal which i know someone (not necessarily you) will say, Naruto has a demon Sasuke has a seal even ground). You can't call what happened in the valley of the Ends a beat up by any means.
Again keep in mind the relationship he and Naruto had. They are rivals. For better or for worse neither one of them is going to verbally give the other credit by any means. And of course I will never claim that Sasuke has social skills, because he doesn't.
The tragedy of life comes not from pain, despair, sorrow, or even death; but the constant annihilating amnesia that begs us to forget we live.
But if we compare it with his actions, he tried to stab Naruto through the heart, which was only prevented by Naruto himself. He would have killed Naruto then. If we compare that to Sasuke's words 'I left you alive on a whim' it makes a lot of sense.
Oh, and he is not using the back of his hand during the final strike. Observe:
That is not the back of a hand, its a Chidori enhanced fist. In other words: Sasuke didn't stop trying to kill Naruto until after the clash. Now Sasuke's 'on a whim' makes a lot more sense.
Heat of the emotion? I think cold intent descibes it a lot more acurate.
Last edited by red storm; 12-21-2006 at 12:20 PM.
No... Look at the way he strikes. Chidori, as far as i have ever seen, is done with the tips of the fingers, you'll notice that in frame two he is indeed thrusting with the tips of his fingers. Then later at the strike he had pull his finger into a half curled position. Chidori is no longer being used as a thrusting attack and its main power is being negated.But if we compare it with his actions, he tried to stab Naruto through the heart, which was only prevented by Naruto himself. He would have killed Naruto then. If we compare that to Sasuke's words 'I left you alive on a whim' it makes a lot of sense.
Oh, and he is not using the back of his hand during the final strike. Observe:
That is not the back of a hand, its a Chidori enhanced fist. In other words: Sasuke didn't stop trying to kill Naruto until after the clash. Now Sasuke's 'on a whim' makes a lot more sense.
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Also, your link is wrong in the second one and it shows the first page again. Can you redo that so i can read what that page says.
Last edited by Luzifer; 12-21-2006 at 11:16 AM.
The tragedy of life comes not from pain, despair, sorrow, or even death; but the constant annihilating amnesia that begs us to forget we live.
*blink* Oookay, what manga have you been reading? Jyuuken used the tips of the fingers at times. Chidori, however, focuses chakra in the palm of your hand, turning the entire hand into one giant knife. Wether you use your tips or your knuckles matters little. In fact, in every case a Chidori has been used, the user has his fingers curved.
Examples galore:
Whoops, first time that ever hapened. Fixed.Also, your link is wrong in the second one and it shows the first page again. Can you redo that so i can read what that page says.
I'm not sure if I've posted in here before or not, but, here we go.
Favorite:
Sabaku No Gaara, because he's just plain cool. He's completely insane when he's first introduced but he seems to be one of the only characters on the show who doesn't seem to have anything that annoys me about him. He's also an awsome fighter.
Runners-Up: Uchiha Itachi and Hyuuga Neji.
Least Favorite:
Uzumaki Naruto. He's just plain annoying. He has his moments but so do pretty much all the characters in the series. He gets stronger but never seems to lose his childish attitude and sometimes he seems to only be there for comic relief. He's one of the most pathetic attempts at a hero I've ever seen.
Runners-Up: Haruno Sakura, Yamanaka Ino, Hyuuga Hinata
YOU KILLED CAPTAIN CRUNCH!!!
heheh...whoops my bad. Its been a while and i forgot about that (never paid a whole ton of attention to the fighting mechanics anyway)... anyway I then took sometime and both looked at the Anime Version and the Manga you showed me and here is my conclusion. In the Anime Version he clearlys closes his fist when he strikes, not impacting with the chakra, in fact he hits naruto square in the chest. Had he actually impacted with the chakra Naruto would be very very dead. But he closes his fist and hits only with his skin thus sparing naruto's life. In the manga picute its a bit more subtle but he doesn't seem to be strikeing with the actual chakra. Rather, instead of the using the chakra located in the palm, has curled his fingers in more then is normaly for the Chidori and is instead stricking with the outside oh is fingers. Besides that had he actually struck with the Chidori Naruto would not have live. Ergo, he couldn't have struck with the Chidori. We all saw what it Chidori did to Gaara's various shields (the Sheild and Armor of Sand).*blink* Oookay, what manga have you been reading? Jyuuken used the tips of the fingers at times. Chidori, however, focuses chakra in the palm of your hand, turning the entire hand into one giant knife. Wether you use your tips or your knuckles matters little. In fact, in every case a Chidori has been used, the user has his fingers curved.
Examples galore:
Whoops, first time that ever hapened. Fixed.
The tragedy of life comes not from pain, despair, sorrow, or even death; but the constant annihilating amnesia that begs us to forget we live.
Well I always find that male charectures are better then the female ones probuly because I am a woman. Itachi Uchiha is hot and powerful.
Naruto is funny and works really hard so he not he's not lazy.
Gaara, Neji, Kakashi and Sasuke are so cool and they look handsome (yes I know that Gaara, Neji and Sasuke are like 15 but they are still good looking for how young they are).
The lest faveroute ones are like the women, some of the pretty ones are like a shoe in to get the cute boy while the less atractive ones don't. Tsunade is all pretty and gambles a lot (I hate gambling it's a waste of money) while Ino is really inoying sometimes and why do they have to be atractive looking to men I don't know probuly to get more atention.
Last edited by Black Pony; 12-22-2006 at 11:39 AM. Reason: sorting out
He did impact with the chakra. that is the point of the chidori. That is what allowed Sasuke to impale Naruto through the chest. If it had not been for the chidori, Sasuke's arm would not have been able to go straight through Naruto. Also, Sasuke was aiming to impale Naruto in the heart with the chidori. The only reason he missed was because Naruto managed to narrowly avoid it at the last instant.
And for further reference, don't go by the anime. The anime is based off the manga, and as such, some things have been changed from the way Masashi Kishimoto had originally intended them to be.
But he closes his fist and hits only with his skin thus sparing naruto's life.Regardless of what the his hand is doing, the fact of the matter is that the Chidori is like a knife. The chakra is made more dense, and sharped, hence why it is nicknamed the "Lightening Edge". The chakra is the blade regardless of what his hand is doing. The hand itself does not make the actual impact or wound, that is the result of the chakra. The hand is just the part of the body through which the chakra is released, and nothing more.
Again, keep in mind that the Chidori is like a knife. It makes a direct, linear impact. The impact is great enough to pierce through Gaara's armor, but all that shows is that it is able to pierce something as soft as skin. Consider the case of the water tower on top of the hospital. The Chidori simply made a straight hole of equal width to Sasuke's arm, showing that the Chidori is nothing more then a very hard stab. At that point, no matter how hard Sasuke hit Naruto with it, it could only do a limited amount of damage. Imagine being stabbed once with a knife. The knife, no matter how hard it is stabbed into you, will only go in as far as the blade, and will only create a wound as wide as the blade. Sasuke did use the Chidori, and struck Naruto with it. But because of the mechanics of the Chidori itself, it could not have killed him unless it hit a vital point, which it did not as a result or Naruto moving slightly to the right. If the Chidori made an explosion or a burst, things would have been different, but it does not.
Here is my craptastic diagram:
Now, if we were talking about the Rasengan, it would be a different situation entirely, and an impact like that to the chest of Sasuke would definately killed, if not having severely maimed him. The Rasengan does release a burst. Again, review the water tower hit by Naruto on top of the hospital.
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ok..why is every one bashing sakura and sasuke? yeah sasuke can be a cold hearted jerk and sakura is annoying but there not that bad..
oh and my fav character is Kiba..i think hes soo cool..but my least is..no one..i like them all!
I realize that but in the case we are talking about, during the black orb incident at the Valley of the Ends in the finale of their battle, it did not pierce Naruto's skin. Naruto was left unconcious at the end. Indeed the chakra is a knife however, the blade actually has to touch the person it is impacting to be effective. Thus if the hand closes and shuts off the chakra from the the point of impact or if the chakra is move so that it doesn't impact the person its effect is nil. Thus what the hand that holds the chakra does, has an effect in the same way a hand holding a knife has an effect (if i may use your metaphor) sure it is the knife that does the cutting but it is the hand that has control and it is the hand, not the knife, that chooses whether the impact will be lethal or not. Thus had sasuke intended, he could have killed naruto, but in fact made a conscious decision not to because he did not want to be like his brother and be hypocrite in the process (sorry about that had to remind everyone what we originally argueing about lest this spirial into no where).
Again, keep in mind that the Chidori is like a knife. It makes a direct, linear impact. The impact is great enough to pierce through Gaara's armor, but all that shows is that it is able to pierce something as soft as skin. Consider the case of the water tower on top of the hospital. The Chidori simply made a straight hole of equal width to Sasuke's arm, showing that the Chidori is nothing more then a very hard stab. At that point, no matter how hard Sasuke hit Naruto with it, it could only do a limited amount of damage. Imagine being stabbed once with a knife. The knife, no matter how hard it is stabbed into you, will only go in as far as the blade, and will only create a wound as wide as the blade. Sasuke did use the Chidori, and struck Naruto with it. But because of the mechanics of the Chidori itself, it could not have killed him unless it hit a vital point, which it did not as a result or Naruto moving slightly to the right. If the Chidori made an explosion or a burst, things would have been different, but it does not.
Here is my craptastic diagram:
Now, if we were talking about the Rasengan, it would be a different situation entirely, and an impact like that to the chest of Sasuke would definately killed, if not having severely maimed him. The Rasengan does release a burst. Again, review the water tower hit by Naruto on top of the hospital.
The tragedy of life comes not from pain, despair, sorrow, or even death; but the constant annihilating amnesia that begs us to forget we live.
Sasuke had every intention of killing Naruto during their fight. He tried to do so several times. Not only with chidori, but if I remember correctly he actually tied him to a rock and tried to burn him. He only changed his mind when the fight was pretty much over.
And while most will say that Naruto won the fight because he was not trying to kill Sasuke, it also seemed like Sasuke was toying with him for the vast majority of the fight.
And as was mentioned Sasuke was actually getting better. The reason that he was upset wasn't because Naruto was getting so strong. It was because he was comparing his progress to Narutos and felt that he was not doing enough. His entire purpose was supposed to be "get stronger, kill Itachi". But considering that he was supposed to be "genius" and Naruto was supposed to be a "loser", the fact that Naruto had improved so much and he hadn't made him feel like he was not doing his best to avenge his clan. So when the sound 4 came saying they could give him more power quickly, he agreed to go.
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"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness, that most frightens us."
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My Favorite Would be Kakashi, Least favorite would be Orochimaru.
Kakashi's a perv but he's good.
I just hate Orochimaru.
I like all the good people of Naruto's universe.
However, I have a soft spot for cuteness. Hyuuga Hinata is adorable!
I seriously dislike Uchiha Sasuke.
Indeed.
Don't forget the way he looked at Naruto after they hit the water towers in the anime.
A boy putting others down so he can feel better about himself.
Sounds like your typical school bully.
Last edited by GreenVI; 12-23-2006 at 02:12 PM.
Its been awhile since my lats post...oh well
Most favorite: Sasuke Uchiha and Naruto Uzamaki. (No not as pairings)
Uchiha: He is the only surviving person in his clan(technically not but you get the idea). he carries the burden of the Uchiha clan and he will do anything to stay the clan alive
Uzamaki: At first he struggles to get the attention of the village people, then he foun Konohamaru, and then he found team 7. His goal to be Hokage is what drives him to his limits and he will do anything to reach that goal (GO Naurto!)
Neutral:Sakura Haruno
Haruno: I dont have any reason to not hate or like her,seriously i dont.
Most hated: Orochimaru
Oro: Dudes and dudettes, I say that he is the "micheal jackson" of this anime show.
Fave character: Haruno Sakura
Although her role in the beginning of the series was incredibly small and annoying, she has show much character developement deeper into the series.
Least liked: No one.
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He was just angry that Narutos attack seemed much more powerful than his. Thats when he started to realize that Naruto (a loser) wasn't just getting better, but he was on the verge of surpassing him overall. That was not supposed to happen since Sasuke was a genuis whose only thought was supposed to be "get stronger, kill Itachi". If Naruto got that much stronger in the time they were a team, Sasuke felt that he should have gotten much stronger than he did.
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"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness, that most frightens us."
- Timo Cruz in "Coach Carter" (2005)
My favorite charaters are Ino, Neji, Jiraiya, Haku and Rock Lee. To me, I think Ino could kick Sakura's butt. Neji's just really cool and strong, Jiraiya's funnier than heck, and Rock Lee tries his hardest when he's already very powerful. :3 Rock Lee's my idol. And why Haku? Because I can relate to him.
My least favorite charaters are Baki, Sakura, and Naruto. Ugh, Baki needs to die after killing Gekko. Sakura's too "blinded by love" to notice that she needs to get in the real life before she dies. And Naruto's soo annoying!!I can't stand his attitude!! I mean, beliving in yourself is good, but repeating that you are is increadibly annoying. Plus, he hurt Kiba.
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i personally dont have a fav. character but the least would be: Ino & Sakura ('cept Sakura's inner self ^^)
fav.charaters:Gaara and neji.Ok i like Gaara because i gess i just like evilish people who like to kill.I like Neji just because i just do.
least fav. charater: Sasuke .ok i just dont like him.
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