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    2chanは楽しい日本のフォルムですが、2chanべんはめちゃめちゃ面白い。違うかんじとか、ひげんと か。。。

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    Quote Originally Posted by MistressPookyChan
    Looks machine translated to me!

    Anywho, check out http://www.mlcjapanese.co.jp/Download.htm It has information for everyone from beginners to advanced. You would be in level 4.
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    "Level Check"というページはここにあります http://www.mlcjapanese.co.jp/LevelCheck/01E.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xazy
    "Level Check"というページはここにあります http://www.mlcjapanese.co.jp/LevelCheck/01E.htm

    どうぞ~ w
    有難うございます!  このぺージはロマンジで書きました...ロマンジは読みにくいです。   0_0 (ひらがなとかたかなのページを見ます。  er, found)
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    完全な日本語を話すこの糸はよい考えである! 私の大学の私の告ャに私達が実際に日本語を学ぶことができるJ 文化事がある、!

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    ok so since my western mind sux i'll lay it out i began to read this and felt i knew what i was doing then got lost so can u just number out what i should learn and in what order just to speak casual japanese not so much "proper"? please?

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    do you have any programs that will let me see the Japanese characters instead of them being in ???? form?

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    i have been using the Japanese <-> Dictionary Server for years. i find it helpful, usually. i use it on my homework.

    This is a website with all the kana, kanji and vocabulary from the Genki text book series. It's the one that my school and many others.

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    Naetsu, which OS are you using? If you are on windows, check out IME. I think I posted some info on pg 1.

    TriForce, if you only want to speak it, then you may want to get one of those "learn Japanese in your car" type of things. However, I highly recommend a study book with kana (not romanji after the beginning!) and a CD.

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    余りに悪い状態は多くの人々できない私達の言うことがわかるには 日本語はそれらのために時々とても困難である場合もある。 オハイオ州すべてのthesitesおよび他の原料の主婦へのええおよび感謝。 私はたくさん感謝している。
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistressPookyChan View Post
    2chanは楽しい日本のフォルムですが、2chanべんはめちゃめちゃ面白い。違うかんじとか、ひげんと か。。。
    個人的には2chanにいくと頭が変になりそうです。人の悪口とか怪しいことしか書いてない気が... - _-;; ちなみに、「電車男」って聞いたことありますか?

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    I find the Windows IME/Language Bar is a pain. It randomly stops responding, switches languages, moves around etc.

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    IME can be a bit annoying, but it's really not that bad. I used it for a few years and, as with anything/one, you get used to its quirks.

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    始めまして!
    私はコンフォミストと申します。シンガポール人でーす!(笑)日本語の勉強を三年しました。どぞよろしくお 願いします!

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    はじめまして、みんなさん!

    I've been learning Japanese for a while now, and I love it! Anyone who is interested, I recommend you definitly commit to it and work hard. The resources I've seen on this forum are excellent for beginners.

    To reiterate with those who already suggested how to start with the writing systems, I agree with the ひらがな (Hiragana) > カタカナ (Katakana) > 漢字 (Kanji) order. Hiragana will be essential for proper pronunciation when reading. Katakana is indeed used more than people give it credit. Any anime/manga fan should atleast know that.

    Kanji...oh Kanji...the mother of all obstacles in Japanese. You'd be surprised to learn that once you really get into Kanji, they really arn't that hard. It's practice, just plain old practice, that will really help in the end.

    For those struggling with Kanji, my suggestion is to study by Grades, not JLPT levels. I say this because when you start off with Grade 1 Kanji, they are the simplest (as far as shape) and easiest to remember. With JLPT 4, however, they are the most common, not the simplest.

    Writing Japanese is tons of fun! It really it. But one thing you might not realize is the importance of stroke order. Stroke order can be a real pain sometimes, but believe me, your writing looks waaay better when you follow the right stroke order.

    So yea, that's my little contribution to all of you who really want to learn the beautiful Japanese language. I'm sorry I wrote it all in English, but as MistressPookyChan said, some simply can't read Japanese yet. I wish all of you luck in your studies!
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    It's ok to write in English, especially if it is going to be helpful to people.

    The other day, I went shopping for a new game for my DS. Lo and behold I found a game that is dedicated to studying for the kanji test. I have a feeling that they don't sell outside of Japan. However, it may be possible to get it over Amazon Japan or on ebay.

    It is a fantastic game! Good for beginners to advanced students of Kanji [both myself (intermediate kanji level) and my fiance (kanji obsessive and pro interpreter) love this]. What I really like is that it works on all things of Kanji: readings, writing, kana, meaning, stoke order, and radicals. It also have a training schedule to help you study, practice tests, and games. I highly recommend it if you are serious about studying kanji. It may not be good for true beginners, but a minimal study of kanji is fine.

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    Wow, that sounds awesome.

    Radicals are another thing people don't take into account when they first start learning kanji, but they are so freakin helpful when you're trying to memorize the meaning.

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    alrighty! well, i've been studying japanese for two years. I get the jist of it, but it's just that i need to improve mai vocab. Besides that, i'm set. If anybody wants to know about any words, i'll assist u in any way! n_n

    1. Konnichiwa isn't sumethin u say all the time to say hi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kendoka7 View Post
    Wow, that sounds awesome.

    Radicals are another thing people don't take into account when they first start learning kanji, but they are so freakin helpful when you're trying to memorize the meaning.
    exactly! When you know the radical, you can atleast figure out its theme. For example, you can tell if it is water-based, or a bird, or a plant.

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    Cool

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    HI!!! everybody, i just wanted to say, that i love anime manga,
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    We could spend hours talking about the ins and outs of kanji, but for those just starting, the best way to begin is by becoming masters of hiragana and katakana first.

    Someone should start a thread on just kanji. I think I will.

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    There are some good links here, although I'm surprised a few good ones are missing. Allow me to add a few more:


    http://www.animelab.com/anime.manga/dictionary/
    This is another Japanese dictionary. (Is it me or does everyone seem to use a different one?) I like this one the best because numerous simular words come up (with kanji) when I type something in.

    http://www.yellowbridge.com/language...dictionary.php
    The best Chinese character dictionary I've found. It also has the Korean and Japanese readings amoung others, etymology, stroke order, and lists of related characters/words. Even if you're not even curious about the Chinese language, you can still copy paste japanese characters there for useful information on word origin. I've been using the IME handwriting tool to draw characters and check for them on both of these websites.


    http://www.sf.airnet.ne.jp/ts/japanese/color.html
    A website that teaches you Japanese. Personally I like the later chapters better, especially the lesson on colors.


    On another note, online dictionaries specific to one language seem better than ones with multiple languages. Even so, I still heavilly rely on good 'ole babelfish for quick machine translations.

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    I have been studding Japanese for 1 year, and I started studding Kanji 3 months ago I already know 120 Kanji.
    To be honest I thought that Kanji would be a lot harder but it seems it's not too hard, the only problem I had was mixing up the signs.

    Seeing how not everyone here knows Japanese here, here are a few sites that might be helpful for learning (sorry if there are site that have already been posted):

    http://linear.mv.com/cgi-bin/j-e/jis/dict
    Dictionary.

    http://www.freelang.net/dictionary/index.html
    Dictionary download that can work offline.

    http://www.omoshiroigame.com/
    Simple games in which one can learn hiragana, katakana and Kanji.
    Like the name says interesting game.

    http://www.nhk.or.jp/lesson/english/index.html
    A great site that has audio lessons as well.

    http://momo.jpf.go.jp/sushi/index.php?LangFlag=e
    Japanese simple tests
    <Registration required>

    http://www.freejapaneselessons.com/
    Teaches grammar.

    http://www.simulationstyle.com/touhoutypingreverie.html
    Teaches to type Japanese.
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    http://lrnj.com/
    Ok I tried the last one, its a rpg in English that teaches the player how to write in Japanese.
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    Ano... is it easier to learn Japanese with a Chinese base? Because I've known Chinese for about all my life already, but I really want to understand Japanese as well. I think I know some kanji, but when it comes to hiragana and katakana I'm completely clueless!

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    I took 4 years of Japanese and still don't really feel very good at it... my major problem is that I took high school classes for two years that went way to slow and then I took two years of community college classes that were at the right speed but because I'd already taken Japanese I decided to skip the intro Japanese class which left me actually missing a whole bunch of knowledge I really needed to know (stuff like verb conjugation which I basically just kinda learned by seeing it done so many times and then finally looked up how to do it) plus I was taking a lot of high school classes at the same time and playing sports which didn't leave me tons of time to focus on the Japanese class.

    Now that I'm in college I've studied a bunch of languages... programming languages that is (stuff like C, C++, C#, Lua, assembly, DirectX, OpenGL, etc.) and near as I can tell the correlation between learning a language making you better at learning other languages hasn't carried over from programing languages to foreign languages (but it does work from programing language to programing language).

    I'm still interested in learning Japanese... but I have a hard time of it because my school schedule is pure chaos (and my college is hyper specialized so it doesn't offer any foreign languages). So I was wondering, because I don't have a lot of knowledge of studying Japanese on my own, if anyone could make a suggestion as to the best way to learn Japanese when you have very little time (Note: I already know hiragana, katakana, and around 100 Kanji)... should I focus on just doing short learning sessions (like maybe 15 minutes) every so often to give my self a break from programming... or would you say that focusing a larger block of time (say like an hour+) all in one shot would be more effective? Also what should I be using to learn from (I basically know how to handle learning Kanji) but should I just try to read and dissect simple Japanese from somewhere or is there some other way someone who is at an intermediate level like me should further their knowledge of Japanese? Any suggestions would be much appreciated!

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