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    i was thinking today. how can anime get respect othre places like it does in japan. not only is it an importnat influence on animation throughout the world but it also is an important cultral artform in its own right. i think it should be taught in schools as part of art like other types of modern art are. how can we help this to happen

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    Unfortunately, though there may be schools in Japan which have courses in manga and animation, the "anime" style is not recognised as a true art-form by the majority of art institutions in the United States. They see it as the mimicing of another's style, focusing only on the often enlarged eyes and the drawing of locks of hair which become spiked, as opposed to a more tradition style. But as we have seen in the past, the institution that is main stream art often does not recognise something as art at one point, and changes its mind in the future. Dispite the social view that art schools and artists are open-minded, this tends not to be the case when they actually look at art.
    The way I see it, manga is a sub-genre of cartoonist illustration and a more traditional realistic style. Though all manga shares certain attributes, the style through which it is drawn is dependant on the artist. The same concept could be applied to most genres of art.

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    it need to become more recognised in aus i cant even buy popular anime series
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    Its a cartoon as much as i love it, its something that has to catch on gradually.

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    Its slowly becoming bigger, but i doubt it would be taught in schools in America etc.

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    Yea i agree with Mikk, it is slowly getting recognized all over the world now ;P. But meh, Anime should be authentic to japan imo they are the creators of it after all. Besides, other countries do have their own form of "anime" US got Family Guy LOL. Oh and South Korean artists are doing mangas now too, right? And colleges offer animation/drawing courses i think, I'll find out next year XD

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    something tells me it won't get taught in schools in very many places.
    but it would be so cool if it did!

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    its how we can get it so it is then. if they teach andy warhol i cant see why anime should be out just because its amnimation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anime is art
    hi im new

    i was thinking today. how can anime get respect othre places like it does in japan. not only is it an importnat influence on animation throughout the world but it also is an important cultral artform in its own right. i think it should be taught in schools as part of art like other types of modern art are. how can we help this to happen
    now if you go around telling everyone in school about that it would make it less popular XD, I mean besides ppl who already likes it, but i would like find a person who is liked or popular to like it as like you know an advertiser. thats what i do i go around telling ppl to watch amv and stuff on youtube and stuff, but that would really be cool to have a class like that.. just sit there and read anime all day O.o' cough* manga"" sorry ^^'
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    Anime doesn't really deserve such recognition as an art style. When you think about it, why should it? It's already considered part of an artstyle. Cartoons. It's really nothing special, anime art is far from impressive. Disproportioned people with Duran Duran haircuts, bizarre hair colors, and large eyes. It's really kind of silly, such art is basically not worthy of that status. Just because it's a underground nerd fad from Japan, doesn't mean we should take it out of the "Cartoon" realm and give it it's own category.


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    I have to say, even though that's DBZ, which is by far not the finest example of anime art, the art style is still far better than the rough painted look. That's hardly impressive by today's standards anyway.

    Nonetheless, I don't believe anime should be held in any higher regard than other cartoons. But because of the following it has, people equate anime with "fat ugly nerds" and tend to shy away from it, which is just as stupid.


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    Meh. How long did it take for AMERICAN comic books to even be called an artform? 30, maybe 40 years? Think about it. It's 2006, and Anime/manga has only been in the country since...what, the mid to late 80's? And I don't think most people in the 80's even knew some older anime were from Japan (Like Transformers, Speed Racer, and Voltron) Really,When I was a kid most people didn't even know Dragonball Z and Sailor Moon were Japanese. We Never knew the word "Anime" untill the poke'mon craze hit the U.S. (at least my age group didn't). So really, anime has only truly been strong in the united states for about 10 years, much thanks to toonami for that.

    And when you come down to it, most art insituites frown upon anime for the reason that you don't have a style. My junior computer graphics teacher was like that. But not every art teacher or proffessor of art is like that. My senior art teacher thought they style was interesting. She had seen a few of my manga before, as well as artbooks that I would bring in to scan into the computer.
    The problem is, a lot of anime people fresh out of highschool draw tend to lack a lot of detail. Most kids who draw anime only draw rough doodles, and I see it myself. During the year I had done two art projects involving anime.
    The first of which was a large mosaic tile drawing of Gatsu from Berserk, it was for my drawing class of course.. A+.
    The next was an advertising asignment for computer graphics, I had used one of the girls from Shirow Masamunes third artbook Ballistics as the main focus. A-.

    When you come down to it, Anime is just as it sounds. Animation. Theres no special name for it. I'm pretty sure Japan calls Scooby Doo anime, and spiderman is a manga.
    Japanese Animation is Animation, as regex said it shouldn't hold any more or any less merit than American Animation.

    "But Redfield! THEY ARE VERY DIFFRENT! Anime is more realistic and is directed twords adults and teenagers. American cartoons are directed twords children and are unproportional ^__^;;;;"

    I've heard this a lot. And no.

    Reflect on examples of anime and american cartoons. Think of all of them, and not just the ones on nickolodean and toonami. Reflect on all of that and rethink that statement if you were thinking it.

    Do I see anime, and animation in general as an artform? Yes. Do I find it better than classical art peices, such as pacasio works? no. Do i find THOSE better than animation? No, not really.
    When it comes to art, I treat it all equilly. I keep in mind that famous art works, though normally better than animation peices, often take MANY hours to complete. If you were to spend hours upon hours on a single frame of animation, you'll be dead before you finish a standard 21 minute long anime or cartoon.

    Example, the image Masali posted by Monet. A respectable artist. That image may look better than most anime, however how long did it take monet to finish that painting? At LEAST 3 hours.
    If an anime artist spent 3 hours on a single frame, he would be fired.

    I respect all art forms in there own way, even certain types of music I otherwise hate (music is of course art) I still respect for what they are.

    So...Yeah, animation is art, and all animation regardless of origin should be respected equally. At least as long as the artist(s) had put effort into it.

    But thats just my whacky opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xero XIII
    Unfortunately, though there may be schools in Japan which have courses in manga and animation, the "anime" style is not recognised as a true art-form by the majority of art institutions in the United States. They see it as the mimicing of another's style, focusing only on the often enlarged eyes and the drawing of locks of hair which become spiked, as opposed to a more tradition style. But as we have seen in the past, the institution that is main stream art often does not recognise something as art at one point, and changes its mind in the future. Dispite the social view that art schools and artists are open-minded, this tends not to be the case when they actually look at art.
    The way I see it, manga is a sub-genre of cartoonist illustration and a more traditional realistic style. Though all manga shares certain attributes, the style through which it is drawn is dependant on the artist. The same concept could be applied to most genres of art.
    like he said if all other countries do the same as anouther country that would just mean they are mimicing them i mean yeah most of us do it everyday but stealing something from anouther country?yeah you may think its dumb what im saying but its just stupid to steal things off anouther country


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    they could make in better in my opinion by taking out all the nudity and ditsy chicks.......i mean come on did all the old animes need tht to be spectacular or popular no they didnt ....but i admit some animes today are awesome and that some dont have the adult crap

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    Anime is just anime. Like everyone says, it's just animation that comes from Japan. The only reason why it seems so amazing because unlike other cartoons that we see typically in Cartoon Network (Examples: Scooby Doo, The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy, and lots more), manga (and anime) have more detail. That is what makes anime (and manga) so significant. Other than that, it's just a drawing style that some people just admires. Also, I believe all types of art should be respected as well. I love abstract drawings, they make me think... and...

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    Yea i agree with Mikk, it is slowly getting recognized all over the world now ;P. But meh, Anime should be authentic to japan imo they are the creators of it after all. Besides, other countries do have their own form of "anime" US got Family Guy LOL. Oh and South Korean artists are doing mangas now too, right? And colleges offer animation/drawing courses i think, I'll find out next year XD
    Yes, South Koreans are making their own manga style kind of thing. It's actually called Manhwa. Oh well. I'm so proud of the Koreans.

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    Well alot of people I know who don't like or respect anime, is because they hate how everyone still has the speed racer look to them.The pointy noses and so on, but there animation is that way over there and it may not be as advanced as the animation in the U.S.But I watch anime because I like the action and stories, I have seen a few american made anime's and they were good but the japanese shows are something I like.To get more respect really, they would have to start making each charcter look a little more differen't and maybe fix that standing and talking stuff like in dbz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Wing Man
    it may not be as advanced as the animation in the U.S.
    Errr...If anything it's the same as the United States. Between both countries, there are 100's upon 100's of animated series and movies. It's impossible to determine who's animation is more "Advanced" Because every style of animation is diffrent. And not EVERY anime character has a pointy nose.
    Ghost in the shell, Fairly realistic noses (nostrials ,rounded out type, and such)
    Hellsing, slightly rounded type while still retaining flat brims
    Just two examples.
    Oh, and speed racer didn't have a pointy nose. His was rounded at the tip.

    To get more respect really, they would have to start making each charcter look a little more differen't and maybe fix that standing and talking stuff like in dbz.
    This is swaying a weeee bit off topic, but I just feel the need to say it.

    Heres the problem with this. DBZ is a bad example.
    And before anyone says "But they spend 20 episodes powering up lol".
    No, for the last time they don't. I think the longest powerup was Goku when he went super sayian 3 for the first time.
    I will admit that the spirit bomb against freeza took forever.
    As for the standing still and talking.
    This is a double edged sword.

    If Toriyama had made them do nothing but fight, then wheres the story? People are just flying around fighting eachother. You would have no idea why, or why they can shoot gigantic energy blasts from their hands.
    Now, since he had a lot (and perhaps a bit too much from the episode count) dialouge, people complain because they talk to much.
    Really, the only problem with DBZ is that it takes too long to explain things, or they re-explain things. Another problem, is that the series is just too damn long. But hey, I can still sit down and watch DBZ with no problem. I notice a lot of people suddenly hate it. Really now, is it truly THAT bad?
    Unlike most anime, a lot of people know Dragon Ball Z. If you go up to anyone under the age of 25 and say "Dragon Ball Z" A majority of people will have at least heard of it.
    Go up to someone and say "Fruits Basket" or "Gravitation" You'll get an odd look or a " "

    Really, even if you don't LIKE it, you still have to respect (Along with Poke'mon) it if you're a die hard anime fan. Dragonball Z introduced many kids of the 90's to anime, much like Voltron and Speed Racer did back in the 80's.

    Also, a lot of the talking crap in the American version wasn't even IN the original Japanese show. A lot of the material that was TOO violent or explicit for american audiences at the time were removed and replaced with talking. Much like the mutilation of Yugioh, The DBZ dub steered away from the original story to an extent and created it's own story to replace everything inappropriate for american TV.

    Just thought about bringing that up, as EVERYONE seems to hate DBZ, yet many kids (well, boys at least) Used to watch it themselves as children. I don't know, too me, abondoning DBZ as a cherished part of my childhood would be like abandoning DC!Discovery Zone, Freakazoid, Animaniacs, Crazy bones, Creepy Crawlers, the super nintendo, and Pogs.

    But yeah, like I said. Even if you dislike DBZ, You still have to Respect it if you're a fan of Japanese animation.

    Well my tangent is done. It doesn't fully relate, but the theme of respecting the show is still there I guess

    Oh, and one last thing about DBZ. If the general public can sit through 230 something episodes of friends, 200+ episodes of everybody loves raymond, and 350+ EPISODES OF THE SIMPSONS, don't complain about the length of the series. Really, it's a lame argument. A lot of TV sitcomes run close to the amount of time as DBZ did. I don't hear many complaints about long running sitcoms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alter dude2
    they could make in better in my opinion by taking out all the nudity and ditsy chicks.......i mean come on did all the old animes need tht to be spectacular or popular no they didnt ....but i admit some animes today are awesome and that some dont have the adult crap
    again a great explainig they can make it better if they cut out the adult stuff.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Redfield22
    This is swaying a weeee bit off topic, but I just feel the need to say it.

    Heres the problem with this. DBZ is a bad example.
    And before anyone says "But they spend 20 episodes powering up lol".
    No, for the last time they don't. I think the longest powerup was Goku when he went super sayian 3 for the first time.
    I will admit that the spirit bomb against freeza took forever.
    People exaggerate as a means of argument. The people who said that in the first place KNOW that they didn't spend literally 20 episodes to power up. But the big problem with it was how everything dragged. It took too long for anything to progress, stopping on them powering up, or just standing across a desolate plane taunting each other, or training on a long space ride. That is the point of what people say..

    Quote Originally Posted by Redfield22
    If Toriyama had made them do nothing but fight, then wheres the story? People are just flying around fighting eachother. You would have no idea why, or why they can shoot gigantic energy blasts from their hands.
    Now, since he had a lot (and perhaps a bit too much from the episode count) dialouge, people complain because they talk to muchReally, the only problem with DBZ is that it takes too long to explain things, or they re-explain things. Another problem, is that the series is just too damn long. But hey, I can still sit down and watch DBZ with no problem. I notice a lot of people suddenly hate it. Really now, is it truly THAT bad?.
    I understand the desire to defend the respected artist, but you really should accept the lemon for what it is. The story was weak, and they took too long to tell it, so people got bored with it, making it appear even weaker. It is that bad. I have sat down and watched DBZ, over several episodes, and I have no desire to do so again, for the reasons I stated before. The original Dragon Ball series did not have the problems that Dragon Ball Z did, and I actually enjoyed that one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redfield22
    Really, even if you don't LIKE it, you still have to respect (Along with Poke'mon) it if you're a die hard anime fan. Dragonball Z introduced many kids of the 90's to anime, much like Voltron and Speed Racer did back in the 80's.
    I suppose, if you're a die hard anime fan. But a fan who is not willing to accept that there are shows that are just plain no good.. He would appear to be a nutcase. You should respect things that you enjoy. And if a certain show has little to no redeeming qualities to it, why should you support it?
    Myself, I am actually unhappy with the sort of fans DBZ brought into the fold. Most folk who came in because of DBZ have no ability to comprehend complex stories. They just like the show because big strong guys fite lolz.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redfield22
    Just thought about bringing that up, as EVERYONE seems to hate DBZ, yet many kids (well, boys at least) Used to watch it themselves as children. I don't know, too me, abondoning DBZ as a cherished part of my childhood would be like abandoning DC!Discovery Zone, Freakazoid, Animaniacs, Crazy bones, Creepy Crawlers, the super nintendo, and Pogs.
    Something should be abandoned. Pogs and DBZ are some of them. Freakazoid, Animaniacs, and the SNES are fine examples of how things could be good for younger audiences, and still be respectable as you get older. Why couldn't more things be like that?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redfield22
    Oh, and one last thing about DBZ. If the general public can sit through 230 something episodes of friends, 200+ episodes of everybody loves raymond, and 350+ EPISODES OF THE SIMPSONS, don't complain about the length of the series. Really, it's a lame argument. A lot of TV sitcomes run close to the amount of time as DBZ did. I don't hear many complaints about long running sitcoms.
    The sit coms are satire of real life situations. That's why they could run so long. Friends lasted as long as it should have, and so did Raymond. They targetted very specific audiences, and did very well.
    But these are very different styles of shows. The Simpsons isn't meant to be a series of stories. It's meant to be a goofy show that makes you laugh, and it's succeeded. It's still making many people laugh, even if you don't enjoy it anymore (and I know you did. It's still the same as it ever was). Dragon Ball Z is trying to tell a story, and telling it very poorly. It makes a good video game, but a poor television series.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Regex
    People exaggerate as a means of argument. The people who said that in the first place KNOW that they didn't spend literally 20 episodes to power up. But the big problem with it was how everything dragged. It took too long for anything to progress, stopping on them powering up, or just standing across a desolate plane taunting each other, or training on a long space ride. That is the point of what people say..
    Oh, I can be the first to admit that it drags, a lot. If I watch DBZ, I tend to skip every 5-10 episodes or so. But DBZ isn't the only anime that drags on constantly. Naruto, Inuyasha, Bleach, Gundam...Any of these ring a bell?

    I understand the desire to defend the respected artist, but you really should accept the lemon for what it is. The story was weak, and they took too long to tell it, so people got bored with it, making it appear even weaker. It is that bad. I have sat down and watched DBZ, over several episodes, and I have no desire to do so again, for the reasons I stated before. The original Dragon Ball series did not have the problems that Dragon Ball Z did, and I actually enjoyed that one.
    Again, I said it before. The american dub suffers the same problem as the american yugioh dub. The original Japanese series was targeted towards a wide age range. Funimation decided to direct it towards children once it was in there hands, as anime wasn't popular enough at the time to try and focus it on multiple audiences (Similar situation to sailor moon). So, they cut out a lot of scenes, and replaced them with additional scenes. Said additional scenes where doppelgangers of other scenes created by american dubbers. Also, the dub storyline swayed away from the original. Added dialouge not in the original, poor translations of the original, ect. It was almost as if the Japanese version of the show and the American dub were spin-off series of one another.

    I suppose, if you're a die hard anime fan. But a fan who is not willing to accept that there are shows that are just plain no good.. He would appear to be a nutcase. You should respect things that you enjoy. And if a certain show has little to no redeeming qualities to it, why should you support it?
    Ha, the highlighted red...Couldn't help but chuckle. How many anime fans have been watching the ninja opera known as Naruto for the past year, just to watch a constant number of non-canon fillers with lower art quality than the actual story arcs. A majority of Naruto fans often go on about how they hate the fillers, but they still watch them.

    Myself, I am actually unhappy with the sort of fans DBZ brought into the fold. Most folk who came in because of DBZ have no ability to comprehend complex stories. They just like the show because big strong guys fite lolz.
    Most of the fans DBZ brought into the fold were between 8-14 when they first started watching. How many kids between that age comprehend or care about complex stories? Few. The dub was directed towards kids for a reason. But the point is, those said fans grew up just like everyone else does. They either didn't watch any more anime, or they started to watch more adult oriented ones. Hell, Myself and several close friends who are anime fans got into anime BECAUSE of DBZ, And i've meet several others who got into anime because of it as well.


    Something should be abandoned. Pogs and DBZ are some of them. Freakazoid, Animaniacs, and the SNES are fine examples of how things could be good for younger audiences, and still be respectable as you get older. Why couldn't more things be like that?
    The SNES wasn't directed towards younger audiences. It was directed towards gamers.
    Freakazoid wasn't directed towards younger auidences...Well, it was...But it was too mature for most young kids to understand. It was taken off the air because of that reason.
    Animaniacs...There we go, we have a winner.

    The sit coms are satire of real life situations. That's why they could run so long. Friends lasted as long as it should have, and so did Raymond. They targetted very specific audiences, and did very well.
    I can't really argue that...All I can give is my opinion. Sitcoms, are often as you said, based on real life situations. Thats why I personally can't stand watching them. If it's a real life situation, it may happen to me sooner or later. If I'm watching something, I prefer unblievable things. Things I could never see, do, or experience in real life.
    But thats just me.

    The Simpsons isn't meant to be a series of stories. It's meant to be a goofy show that makes you laugh, and it's succeeded. It's still making many people laugh, even if you don't enjoy it anymore (and I know you did. It's still the same as it ever was).
    That stupid "Simpsons or Family Guy?" Poll EVERY forum on the internet has at some point or another beg to differ. And I DID like the simpsons at a point, up untill it started to become like family guy. Random. At least the simpsons used to have...Mini stories if you will. Each episode a new story. Events taken place in previous episodes carry on to the next (When they got santa's little helper, Apu getting married, and things of that nature) without them being related to current stories at all.
    However, the simpsons just started to get too random like family guy.
    I can't stand either show now. I can watch some of the older episodes, but when it comes to the episodes made in the last 4-5 years...It's just random crap.

    Dragon Ball Z is trying to tell a story, and telling it very poorly. It makes a good video game, but a poor television series.
    Dubs. Diffrent. Yugioh similarity. Explained in previous post. Ect. And although it tells the story poorly, the point still gets across.
    I can understand why you dislike it, and they are valid reasons. This kind of subject is pure opinion, and you can't exactly debate it...More or less.

    and one more thing.

    Stop makin females weak and half naked and mayb have animefans suggest some anime stories and such
    They make females weak and half naked because Japan is a male dominated society...Then they wonder why the polls says Japan is the WORST country when it comes to sex

    But on a serious note. there are plenty of strong female characters. I don't care to name any, but they are there. Also...Animefans...suggest stories? Most japanese anime fans draw there own mangas to upload on the interbutts. And Japan doesn't care about american audiences, much like out animators don't care about them.

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    dude, anime HAS respect, just look around!
    OF COURSE it won't be as popular in America, Europe, or any other country as it is in Japan. Anime isn't just animation, it's a cultural tie and it should be viewed as such. Just because every teenie-bopper MTV loving bimbo isn't running to Borders to buy the latest Bleach dub, doesn't mean that it doesn't have respect. Respect and Popularity mean two different things. I respect Anime, and everyone on this forum obviously does, people who go to cons respect anime, all the toonamie addicted kids (and the toonamie addicted teens lol) who are the anime lovers of the future have respect for it, not to mention a TON of other groups of people who respect anime as it is. I think that Anime has A LOT of respect and A LOT of devoted fans, and that's enough for me ^.^
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    Someone has to explain the whole world that anime and cartoons aren`t the same.

    Well... My art-teacher knows anime ^.^ and it`s kind of respected on my school.
    I show that I love anime and they think I`m normal

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