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    I've heard very good things about this show and I want to see it pretty bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manhattan_Project_2000
    Yes, I do.
    Well, try the question of ethics as preceieved morality as apposed to practical reality.

    Or the order of the world. Where are things placed in retrospect to everything else.

    The value of knowledge. The origins of cognitive thought. Idealism. Postmortem subjects. The reasons why we do things. Myth. Scientific theory...yadda, yadda. I could probably keep going.

    These were not presented as subjects in NGE and are quite deep. One could start a whole six month college class discussion on merely one topic. NGE kept to a couple topics in and of itself, and true it did manage to touch basis with them-but the series itself I do not see as very deep. However, I will agree now, after reading some fairly well explained posts (not including your own) that it is 'great' in it's own messed up way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by かごめ
    Well, try the question of ethics as preceieved morality as apposed to practical reality.

    Or the order of the world. Where are things placed in retrospect to everything else.

    The value of knowledge. The origins of cognitive thought. Idealism. Postmortem subjects. The reasons why we do things. Myth. Scientific theory...yadda, yadda. I could probably keep going.

    These were not presented as subjects in NGE and are quite deep. One could start a whole six month college class discussion on merely one topic. NGE kept to a couple topics in and of itself, and true it did manage to touch basis with them-but the series itself I do not see as very deep. However, I will agree now, after reading some fairly well explained posts (not including your own) that it is 'great' in it's own messed up way.
    No, you must have misunderstood me. I didn't ask for you to explain why you don't think NGE is deep, I want you to list all the Anime that is SO MUCH DEEPER then NGE. Anime, as genre, is horribly shallow more often then not. There are a few anime that could be described as AS DEEP as NGE, but none to my knowledge that could be described as DEEPER. Seriously, blow me away here.

    Not to mention that half the themes you just listed were explored in great detail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manhattan_Project_2000
    No, you must have misunderstood me. I didn't ask for you to explain why you don't think NGE is deep, I want you to list all the Anime that is SO MUCH DEEPER then NGE. Anime, as genre, is horribly shallow more often then not. There are a few anime that could be described as AS DEEP as NGE, but none to my knowledge that could be described as DEEPER. Seriously, blow me away here.

    Not to mention that half the themes you just listed were explored in great detail.
    I figured you meant anime, but since you failed to elaborate, I chose to take the path less traveled. Next time be more specific in what your asking. In essence use the rule: "work for stupid" here, or else you probably won't get what your looking for.

    Anyway, I will admit hands down that there is probably not an anime out there that's as 'deep' as NGE, but I also never claimed there was an anime deeper, I just said "I hear people praising it like it's the deepest thing they've ever seen when really I don't think it is very deep." No where in that comment did I say there was a deeper anime. ::shrugs::
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    What turns many people on to shows like Neon Genesis, is that they can understand the characters, and the plots, and even relate to them in some way.

    With Neon Genesis, the protagonst, Shinji, is pretty much your ordinary outcast, except he pilots an Eva, to "save" mankind. The changes the main protagonist (Shinji) goes through, is something that many people can relate to. The other characters are also a medium in which many can relate to, and can often project a little of themselves upon.

    With all the Anime series I've ever watched, I can relate to Neon Genesis Evangelion, moreso than most.

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    Well, I liked NGE because of all of its psychological elements, as well as it being a mecha anime (mecha is my favorite genre XD). It's also an anime with a very complex and complicated plot, and you actually have to think to understand some parts..
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    ok, for one thing, eva is for people who like to watch anime that makes you think, if you don't like to think, or you watch television mindlessly, then you will not like it, however, i like the series. What was so good about it?

    very good character development
    they made a whole religion background
    it was ground breaking at the time, and still is
    very nice fight scenes (especially in the end of eva)
    it was just all around good...
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    yup. that's roughly everything summed up. I personally love Eva... To some, the last two episodes were crap, but i really liked it above the others. There isn't MUCH animes that go deeper into the storyline development more than Eva does.

    I don't think i can explain more than what as already been said... If you don't think when you watch anime, then you probably won't understand Eva. And if you don't understand it, you'll never grow to like it. There is much more to Eva than whats on the surface of it. It is not messed up, it's just that you don't see yourself in it and understand the characters deeply. If you do, it'll seem pretty normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manslayer101
    ok, for one thing, eva is for people who like to watch anime that makes you think, if you don't like to think, or you watch television mindlessly, then you will not like it, however, i like the series. What was so good about it?

    very good character development
    they made a whole religion background
    it was ground breaking at the time, and still is
    very nice fight scenes (especially in the end of eva)
    it was just all around good...
    Yeah, what manslayer said. If you like animes that you watch for fun, without having to think about the plot, the characters, and etc. too much, then you won't enjoy Evangelion (because in Eva, you have to think about the characters and what they're like, plus the plot). If you like to be mentally challenged and if you really like to think about what is actually going on in an anime, then Evangelion is great.
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    I liked the design of the Evas. They had some decent concepts for them. I actually liked the idea of them having to be plugged into the power source to remain operational. After all, you would think that it would take a massive amount of power in order to operate a giant "machine" like that.

    My problem with it was that I feel that they went overboard with the head trips. It did not seem at all realistic to me (granted this is anime). What are the chances that EVERYONE on the show has extremely deep emotional issues like that? It seems to be the trendy thing to have a bleak outlook on the world and Eva took that to a whole new level.

    It was an excellent concept, but it was not well planned. There were massive contradictions and they seemed to confuse themselves about halfway through the series. I can't agree with the statement about character developement though because none of the characters actually developed. One brief moment at the end when Shinji decides he wants to live is no character developement.
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    Great anime, but it was one that made the Japanese clamp down on censoring stuff, like they took out half of Cowboy Bebop actually!
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    Great anime, but it was one that made the Japanese clamp down on censoring stuff, like they took out half of Cowboy Bebop actually!
    There is no absolute right and wrong. People judge as right what they personally consider pleasant, and judge as wrong what they personally consider unpleasant. Convincing others of what is right cannot be equated with teaching the Truth. It is just teaching others to agree with you. It is not about putting an end to error, but putting an end to opinions contrary to your own perceptions.
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    Since most mecha anime I watched had huge clunky robots (e.g. Gundam, Daimos), Eva was a nice change. Also, the philosophical takes make for decent, thoughtful viewing. The TV series' ending was psychotic, but I liked it ^^

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    erm.. i think evangelion is an interesting anime bcos this anime discussed the reason of the existence of humans so heavily. plus it also combine teology as one of the element but the fighting scene is kind of short and it is damn psychotic!

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    It has a bit more emoitional and philosophical depth than most anime of the time and even now

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