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    ok, this is going to sound really retarded, but I just saw an episode of Bleach on YTV (I'm Canadian) and HATED the voice acting. So, simple question, does any one know where I can get the first 50 episodes?

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    Down ask for downloading sites and things of that nature. It's against the rules here. Also, since those episodes are licensed, it's illegal for them to be distributed outside of FUNimation's consent.

    As for the voice acting in the english version, it's not all that bad. It's been improving steadily.

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    Sorry, didn't read all that clearly, and no the voice acting sucks

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    Hmm, interesting new chapter that's up. I do got a question though: what the heck did Ishida use in order to attack Zaera-Pollo? I mean, I see a big pentacle, but I don't know if that's from the 8th Espada or from Ishida, because Zaera-Pollo says something about sealing Uryu's spiritual energy. Anybody have explanations?

    And it's also interesting to see Renji use a kido spell. Seems like Zaera-Pollo didn't anticipate that.
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    Well, the pentacle was definetly Ishida's, and that was one crazy looking attack...I just hope the next chapter gives it some kind of explanation.

    And, still no news of Sado, Ichigo, or Rukia.

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    Man these cliffhangers are killing me. The beauty of the manga is it's keeping me on my toes in terms of story elements. But there's so much that needs to be resolved in so many frames a week. Well, it's to be expected.

    Anyway, I was positive on Renji doing some form of crazy "What the hell was he thinking" approach to contrast with a fighter like Ishida. Still, it surprised me how effectively it stunned Pollo. That attack of Ishida's was definitely out of left field. Not much to go on besides knowing it's a Quincy original.

    And Xero's got a point. We can only wonder about those 3. I'm honestly ready for a main character to go down, but those three don't seem likely. Rukia...she isn't as vital as in SS, but I wouldn't say she's gone yet. Chad JUST got his powers evolved for god's sake. I don't see him dying. Ichigo goes without saying.

    Might be my connection to the characters, but I'm not seeing a clearcut death here. Opinions?

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    Well, with Bleach, I wouldn't even rule out Ichigo dying. But I don't see any of those characters dying, personally (though I wouldn't mind Rukia going down, never liked her much). I do wonder though how in the heck Ichigo can possibly defeat Ulquiorra, not to mention the additional Espada. By the way, do Aizen and co. count as Espada, or something else?

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    New chapter up. Kinda groddy to see Zaera/Szayel eat his own fracción in order to regain his strength, but I wasn't surprised that he would treat his subordinates like that. I just didn't think he'd actually consume them.

    Well anyways, I guessed we missed out on a chance to see his arrancar release, but at least Ishida and Renji have got time to think. That's pretty much what Uryu's best at doing, anyways. That's what's most disappointing in this chapter, at least to me. I was just so anxious to see another Espada release, but I didn't get one.

    And we get an update on Ichigo, though I don't know what Grimmjow intends to do.
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    Probably whatever lets him have another go at Ichigo, since their previous fight was not concluded. He is alot like Kenpachi after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhatIsAUserName View Post
    And we get an update on Ichigo, though I don't know what Grimmjow intends to do.
    I thought it was obvious (I called it a few chapters back), that he plans to use Orihime to heal Ichigo based on the "Only-I-Can-Defeat-You-Because-I-Want-Revenge" angle.

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    Sounds like what I had imagined happening. I somehow don't see Grimmjow switching sides and aiding Ichigo and crew.

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    In his mind hes not aiding Ichigo. He's just settling his score with him. Theres no doubt that he probably blames Ichigo for the humiliation he suffered (losing his arm, temporarily not being an Espada, getting all scared up from Ichigos attack) and wants to pay him back, with interest. He'll use Oro to heal him, then he will try to kill him himself. Besides, I don't think he likes the ideal of Ulquiorra being the one to kill Ichigo.

    I knew Ishida had more tricks up his sleeve. Apparently his knew bow has more additional applications than just the sword like function. I'm begining to really like Zaera. He's actually giving them a chance to come up with a plan to defeat him while he slips into something more comfortable lol. Can't get much more arrogant and cocky than that. And the blatant disregard for his comrades is such a nice trait for a bad guy. Really, I can't think of the last time I saw someone eat their subordinate.

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    Zaera reminds me way too much of Mayuri...the two would probably get along fairly well. Disregard for allies, scientist, crazy experiments, experiments on subordinates, experiments on self, out of his mind, thinks he knows everything about Ishida, thinks he knows everything about everything...yeah, I don't even know which of the two I'm describing any more...

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    So, basically they are both creeps? True statement, though. Any thoughts which of the two will end up dealing the final blow, assuming it is Renji or Ishida?

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    Zaera and Mayuri are ridiculously similar. I think they would be too busy trying to dissect each other to start much of a friendship lol. Maybe Aizens crew is meant to reflect the Gouten 13 in a way. (10 Espada plus Aizen, Tousen & Gin = 13)

    Zaera = Mayuri (Reasons described above)
    Grimmjow = Zaraki (Want to beat Ichigo with their own power)
    Ulquiorra = Byakuya (I'll probably catch hell for this comparison lol. Both powerful, skillful, intelligent, arrogant and have a decent fanbase)

    Just a random thought.

    I think Renji should be allowed to get the final blow. All this time he has been punked and toyed with despite the fact that he is one of the major characters. Ichida already got an impressive win against the former espada. Plus he has been somewhat impressive in this fight as well. So far Renji has had his bankai negated and we never even got to see HOW Zaera beat him up. I think his character kind of needs this. That way he can say that he beat both brothers.
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    Chapter 277...my inner Fanboy is extremely happy right now...Not quite sure what will happen in 278, but the way Kubo Tite likes to do things, he'll probably switch back to Renji and Ishida before coming back to Ichigo, Grimmjow, and Ulquiorra.

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    Sounds like the way it goes. Who you think has the upper hand, Grimmjow or Ulquiorra? Rank wise, Ulquiorra is the favorite, but the way Bleach is going, nothing is for certain. I hope that this one gets resolved before Renji/Ishida's battle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mugetsu View Post
    Zaera and Mayuri are ridiculously similar. I think they would be too busy trying to dissect each other to start much of a friendship lol. Maybe Aizens crew is meant to reflect the Gouten 13 in a way. (10 Espada plus Aizen, Tousen & Gin = 13)

    Zaera = Mayuri (Reasons described above)
    Grimmjow = Zaraki (Want to beat Ichigo with their own power)
    Ulquiorra = Byakuya (I'll probably catch hell for this comparison lol. Both powerful, skillful, intelligent, arrogant and have a decent fanbase)
    You forgot the similarities between Shunsui Kyouraku and Stark. Both seem like womanizers who have domineering aides working for them.

    Now, back on topic. To be honest, I was actually kinda disappointed with the new chapter. I've been tearing my hair out waiting for TK to finally show us another Espada release, but nooooo, we had to go back to Ichigo. But there's always the possibility of an Espada release shown in the battle between Ulquiorra and Grimmjow. Small consolation, but if TK goes back to the Renji/Ishida vs Grantz fight, without showing us anything new, then I think I'd explode.

    Well, at least there's a limiter of some sorts to Orihime's powers. That means she can't reject everything, though I'm assuming the reason is that she hasn't quite honed her abilities yet.
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    I have a huge feeling that either next chapter will be back to Ishida and Renji, or we will have a quick chapter of confrontation between Grimmjow and Ulquiorra and then back to Ishida and Renji. That's kind of how Tite has always done things with Bleach.

    As for who has the upper hand, I'd have to say Ulquiorra. In the Material World, when Ichigo and Grimmjow last fought, Ichigo was ahead both because of his Vaizard abilities and Grimmjow having only one arm. I believe that should Grimmjow have had both arms, the fight would have been just about equal. Considering Ulquiorra beat Ichigo fairly easily, and that even Grimmjow was afraid of Ulquiorra showing up, we know that Grimmjow at least finds Ulquiorra to be trouble for him, and assuming he's on the same level as Ichigo, he won't prove much of a challenge for Ulquiorra.

    Also remember that the gaps between espada power levels have been great. Rukia, who isn't even a seated officer, was able to defeat (be it at the cost of her own life) Aaroniero, the 9th Espada, and yet Ichigo, who is at least Captain level fought fairly equally with Grimmow, the 6th Espada...and lost miserable to Ulquiorra, the 4th Espada.

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    This last chapter leaves no doubt that Ulquiorra is superior to Grimmjow in strength. After their confrontation Grimmjow was injured while Ulquiorra did not appear to take any significant damage. The fact that a guy like Grimmjow had to kind of cheat just to get him out of the way shows that he didn't think he could really beat him.

    And I still don't think that Ichigo (hollow or not) is as strong as Grimmjow with 2 good arms. Fighting one handed is a significant handicap. Also, when they fought in the material world, Ichigos transformation took Grimmjow by surprise. Now he will be expecting it and prepared. But usually when a character get's their butt kicked and gets healed, they come back stronger. I think the same will hold true in Ichigos case now.

    I was also wondering why Aizen would give the Espada a device to punich their enemies. That thing reminds me of the Phantom Zone device from Superman. What happened to good old fashioned dismemberment???

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    So, I'm going to import the Bleach artbook that came out last December (see my last journal entry), and while doing some research on it, I came across what could be an interesting spoiler. I won't post the image here, just in case someone may not want to see it, but, me being a fan of the character, I figured I'd share. I'm not sure if it's actually in the artbook, but it does appear to be Kubo Tite's artwork...so, no guarantees...

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    Well i don't read the manga and it looks like i'm very behind in the story, i posted a question in another thread a few days ago and i'm not sure if it'll be answered so i thought i'd try in here.

    Can someone tell me why the title is "Bleach" to begin with? i love this show but can't for the life of me figure out the point of the title. I appreciate any help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pernan View Post
    Can someone tell me why the title is "Bleach" to begin with? i love this show but can't for the life of me figure out the point of the title. I appreciate any help.
    As far as I know, a specific reason has never been given by Kubo Tite, but I've posted my theory previously in this thread. Essentially, bleach is a chemical used to remove stains and dark spots and make them white/light. In the series, Ichigo is like bleach in that he removes darkness (Hollows, Arrancar), and makes it good (white being a color representative of purity). Thus, Bleach is just a metaphor for Ichigo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mugetsu View Post
    I was also wondering why Aizen would give the Espada a device to punich their enemies. That thing reminds me of the Phantom Zone device from Superman. What happened to good old fashioned dismemberment???
    The real question is why Aizen doesn't want Ichigo and Friends to be killed right off the bat. I believe he was expecting for the Espada to betray eachother with the device.

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    281 was epic. I can't wait for next week's chapter. Grimmjow's released form looks crazy...and kind of like Gamma Akutabi (from Kubo's Zombie Powder) for some reason.

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