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    Default good or evil? please be honest

    First reflect on what you know about yourself, look inward and be honest with yourself because in the grand scheme, you cant lie to you. if you were given an opportunity to have near ultimate power, longevity, intelligence, a secure afterlife etc. (think spawn i guess but without the makeover and responsibilty) would you willingly take up arms on the side of evil, keeping in mind all of evil generous seductions and promises?

    i honestly think offered anything i wanted namely loves return would be near impossible to turn down but knowing of ts forced nature i probably wouldnt accept it i prefer things to be genuine and free from force
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    I would use my powers for evil and cause much destruction.

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    wait, there's an evil side? when did that happen? In a relative moral environment, you can't have an absolute evil. It don't work! What's the definition of this "evil"? If I don't know which evil you're talking about, I can't make my decision.
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    and why cant you? consider all the worst things in just your imagination, keeping in mind thats only what youve thought of, then magnify all the pain, suffering, and loss and attribute it to nothing because evil needs no reason to destroy.
    hypothetically think of everything you have to lose, your family your friends your memories your soul...all because someone felt like it
    Quote Originally Posted by viewtyjoe
    wait, there's an evil side? when did that happen? In a relative moral environment, you can't have an absolute evil. It don't work! What's the definition of this "evil"? If I don't know which evil you're talking about, I can't make my decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alice_Fallen_Cloud
    and why cant you? consider all the worst things in just your imagination, keeping in mind thats only what youve thought of, then magnify all the pain, suffering, and loss and attribute it to nothing because evil needs no reason to destroy.
    hypothetically think of everything you have to lose, your family your friends your memories your soul...all because someone felt like it
    You have yet to answer my question, nor did you seem to understand what I was trying to say. I guess this time I'll be frank. Evil is relative, unless you're trying to push your beliefs onto me, which I don't take kindly to. What you see as evil, I can just as easily see as good.

    (If you are easily offended by 9/11, please stop reading now, as I'm going to take this where you don't want to go)

    Example: 9/11, Thousands dead. Evil act? If you believe that Islamic extremists are evil, yes. They killed thousands because they decided that the thousands deserved to die. This act can only be construed as evil if you believe that those who died didn't deserve to die. Now, for those who committed this act, it was best thing that they could do. They sent the people who committed atrocity after atrocity in their homelands the message that they were sick of these nonbelievers telling them what they had to do, and that they would respond in kind. Who's really evil in this case? There is no specific answer, as it depends on your beliefs.

    The goal of this rather over-the-top scenario is to try and get it through your heads that good and evil are not absolutes! Good is what you say is good. Evil is what you say is evil. If you look hard enough, there is no such thing as a causeless action.
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    I don't believe in good and evil. If I did I would say probably no. I am who I am, and I have tried to go against my nature in the past only to fail miserably. I think most of my nature would fall into what people consider good rather than evil. I can think of nothing to recieve that would tempt me to take such an offer.
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    your overcomplicating this, what i was refering to was evil by your own definition, i gave you my definition and you took it as force of belief, you can justify pointless carnage however you like, this has nothing to do with poltics, its merely perspective, you're looking at it as right and wrong not good and evil, evil is something morally bad by ones own definition, the choice to commit an evil act
    anyway this isnt a debate and if all you care to do is argue, im not really in the mood, you either understood me or you didnt, it wasnt up to me to prove anything to you
    Quote Originally Posted by viewtyjoe
    You have yet to answer my question, nor did you seem to understand what I was trying to say. I guess this time I'll be frank. Evil is relative, unless you're trying to push your beliefs onto me, which I don't take kindly to. What you see as evil, I can just as easily see as good.

    (If you are easily offended by 9/11, please stop reading now, as I'm going to take this where you don't want to go)

    Example: 9/11, Thousands dead. Evil act? If you believe that Islamic extremists are evil, yes. They killed thousands because they decided that the thousands deserved to die. This act can only be construed as evil if you believe that those who died didn't deserve to die. Now, for those who committed this act, it was best thing that they could do. They sent the people who committed atrocity after atrocity in their homelands the message that they were sick of these nonbelievers telling them what they had to do, and that they would respond in kind. Who's really evil in this case? There is no specific answer, as it depends on your beliefs.

    The goal of this rather over-the-top scenario is to try and get it through your heads that good and evil are not absolutes! Good is what you say is good. Evil is what you say is evil. If you look hard enough, there is no such thing as a causeless action.
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    Good and evil are just words based on perpective, what viewtyjoe is saying is absolutely true, but based on your perspective, I would choose evil, and then mass destruction and murder would soon be there.
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    Joe I completely agree with what you said .. but I think there is a possiblity of absolute evil and good.

    Take absolute evil... what about someone who hurts, torments and causes pain and suffering simply for the joy in doing such things? Someone who had no redeeming qualities, is so evil as to view things like lying, stealing, cheating etc. petty acts and instead relies on cold blooded and remorseless murder. Someone who would make an innocent mother beg for the life of her daughter only to kill the daughter and the mother soon after and take sheer pleasure in it. Someone who values power above all else and knows nothing but hatred.

    Would this person not be the embodiment of evil? They have no particular motives, no political agenda, nothing of the sort. They are fueled simply by hatred and a desire to destroy everything they see.

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    I think if you're talking about 2 sides, like the evil side is a being of sublime power who temps you with your desire in exchange for your soul and mindless destruction, and the good side is your mind/morals/reasons that tell you not to give into temptation then I'd say I'd resist it. I don't think I'm capable of mindless chaos or ultimate greed. Not only am I a good natured person, but I have sworn myself to a code also. I guess I'd be "good".


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    I don't now IF there really IS a good or evil side in this world....hmm*thinks of Bush*....seconds thought maybe there is evil...o_o...but I don't know if using that powers for my own self without sharing anything with other people is good though...>.>....if it is evil then Halleluya....<.<

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    I think having the powers of which you speak would get pretty boring pretty quickly. I'm quite alright without powers like that, thank you.

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    the point isnt the power its the moral dilemma. taking what you know about yourself and breaking it down completely, really it has nothing to do with me its about your own selfreflection, instead i get religious and political debate ARRRGGH!!!

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    If I was offered all of that...I would have to accept it. I already am evil enough and I want to rule the world and have ultimate power...so yea if I was offered all that stuff I would accept it
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    There is so much I want to say but won't because I told Minako I'd be good.

    Needless to say I strongly doubt anybody here has a true grasp on what it is to be actually evil.

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    Don't belive in good and evil, but in cause and effect

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    i would be evil so i could do anything i wanted
    I DIDNT DO It


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