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    In my state Newspaper, legislators said that they would pass a law saying that they should ban people for smoking in
    But people said that they shouldnt ban smoking in most enclosed, and partially enclosed places of employment, and public areas.

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    Do you think that's good? I think its good because well, you wont get second hand smoke.
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    Been done in Sweden, works really well. If you want to smoke, you can go outside. Simple as that.



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    I Am not too sure if it is good or bad. You may lose many people that go to bars to drink AND smoke. Then again, as you said no one wants second hand smoking. I guess it would have a positive effect, But I'm not to sure. It seems like a good idea, But until I see it in action, I can't decide.
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    Yes, I too know all too well how bad second smoke can be. It's terrible in smaller, confined spaces like restaurants. I'm not of age yet, so I can only assume it's the similar situation in bars. You can't breathe, things get all hazy, the place starts to smell terrible. I say if you want to smoke and drink, risk your life one way at a time buddy. Smoke outside, because I don't want to share your deathwish.

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    Wow. People with different opinions. I agree on all of you. But still, My gramps died form second hand smoke. And second hand smoke kills you even more.


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    Second hand smoking for the customers is one thing, what of the people working in the bars? That can't be healthy at all.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dieselmannen
    Second hand smoking for the customers is one thing, what of the people working in the bars? That can't be healthy at all.
    Thats right...and Im so glad that my dad quit smoking finally. But there are other people that wanted him to continue. They're Peer Presuring My Dad! OMG
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    My question: If you ban smoking in bars, smoking outdoors(as in California), and smoking in cars(tried to do that in Galveston), where can anybody smoke? Don't tell me they'll try to ban it in private homes next.

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    I dont think they're going to ban in homes are they?


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    Out by me the debate is that they're banning it from all indoor public places, but allowing it in casinos. So businesses (especially bars) are pissed about the loss of customers to the casinos.

    And...God...the secondhand smoke that will be found in those casinos >< I'd hate to work in one.

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    Oh yea...The casinos...
    I forgot about that.
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    They can't ban smoking, let alone make it illegal.
    People will just keep doing it anyways...
    Take the dilema on alcohol intake and smoking..they already made it illegal in Saudi Arabia..however people still drink and smoke..all they do is drive over to Bahrain (Somewhere in Saudi Arabia)..and secretly do it there...
    No matter what you do, people will just keep doing it.
    All we can do is try and keep it to a minimum by helping them quit, advertise how it's bad for you, and any other method I missed.

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    Well, smoking is indeed a disgusting habit, but hey, even I do it sometimes socially. And to be honest, smoking is something that goes along with being at a concert or a bar. You should expect it to be happening unless you are at a straight edge concert, honestly.

    I think it should be banned in public places, with the exception of bars and night clubs. A banning of smoking would kill business, and at a lot of places, at least clubs, they don't let you leave and then come back. If they do, you have to have a good reason, and proof of that reason, or you have to pay to get back in. And of course at places where concerts are held, because that is another type of place where once you leave, you usually can't get back in.

    As for people whom work in a smoke filled environment. I feel bad for them, but at the same time, when they applied for that job, they were aware that smoking was allowed in there. So it is on them in a way. We all have to make comprimises to make our money, don't we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Li Kishiro
    I think it should be banned in public places, with the exception of bars and night clubs. A banning of smoking would kill business, and at a lot of places, at least clubs, they don't let you leave and then come back. If they do, you have to have a good reason, and proof of that reason, or you have to pay to get back in. And of course at places where concerts are held, because that is another type of place where once you leave, you usually can't get back in.
    That hasn't happened here in Sweden, even though it's been banned for quite a while here. I mean, it's not like there is bars that do allow smoking that you can go to instead of the non-smoking bars.

    You don't go to a bar to smoke, you go there to drink. I mean, sure, you can invite all your friends over for drinks in your living room, but that is hardly the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dieselmannen
    That hasn't happened here in Sweden, even though it's been banned for quite a while here. I mean, it's not like there is bars that do allow smoking that you can go to instead of the non-smoking bars.

    You don't go to a bar to smoke, you go there to drink. I mean, sure, you can invite all your friends over for drinks in your living room, but that is hardly the same thing.
    I dunno bro. A lot of people go to the bar to smoke AND drink and have a good time. At least they do over here in the states. Usually smoking and drinking go hand in hand over here. Most people whom smoke drink around here. Although not all drinkers also smoke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Li Kishiro
    I dunno bro. A lot of people go to the bar to smoke AND drink and have a good time. At least they do over here in the states. Usually smoking and drinking go hand in hand over here. Most people whom smoke drink around here. Although not all drinkers also smoke.
    Used to be the same here.It's not like there's an alternative place you can go... Sure, you can invite your friends over for a beer in your living room, but that's a poor substitute for a real bar.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dieselmannen
    Used to be the same here.It's not like there's an alternative place you can go... Sure, you can invite your friends over for a beer in your living room, but that's a poor substitute for a real bar.
    Thats very true. You know, I just think that some people are trying to take certain things too far. I honestly don't think that anyone pushing for the banning of smoking in public places actually goes to bars. So they don't understand how things work for the business of a bar.

    There was a sports bar/grill here in the tristate area, and when it first opened, it did terribly for two months.

    It did not permit smoking.

    It closed down, and reopened and allowed smoking, and they've had booming business ever since.

    Politicians and soccer moms pushing for these kinds of things just don't understand the value and importance that smoking can have for an establishment. They'd be better off outlawing cigarrettes. Because then people wouldn't really have a choice period.

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    You are so Lucky Princess Ai...
    I dont want to choke...last time I was in a theater from going out, there are like choke people smoking outside. I breath in it too. I cant stand it so I ran. While running, I coughed up something I wasnt suposed to cough up. Then on that day, I have asthma again...
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    Let's put it this way; A law passed here in my city, that you may not smoke in resturants and bars. 3 Resturants, and 2 bars went out of business. ^_^; And I think it's very wrong, because there goes even MORE americans, unemployed. Sigh.



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    They've been discussing this over in the uk.

    Personaly, I think it's a good idea. If you want to smoke, go outside. As for areas in bars etc where you can smoke - having a smoking area in a bar is like having a toilet area in a swimming pool.
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    smoking should like be made illegal or somthing its just bad alltogeater
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter XXI
    smoking should like be made illegal or somthing its just bad alltogeater
    Smoking won't be made illegal. The tax on it in places is so much, that it makes up a large portion of government incomes. If governments ban smoking altogether, then all that money would be gone until they remove the ban.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dieselmannen
    Been done in Sweden, works really well. If you want to smoke, you can go outside. Simple as that.
    Same as Norway! My father believes it's the Government's conspiracy to get to him through his smoking, though. Even thoug he doesn't go to bars nor restaurants <3


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    I don't smoke and it'll be 3 more years until I can go into some bar, so I'm not going to worry about it.
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