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    EGM interviewed Square Enix director Yoshinori Kita, regarding to the possibility of a PS3 remake of Final Fantasy VII; He said it would take a team of 300 people to develop the remake in the quality of PS3, and the development would last 5 years. He has so many other projects in the pipeline and a FFVII remake would be a heavy task. He commented if the timing is right, it is a very interesting perspective. It seems Square Enix's first PS3 project is presumably Final Fantasy XIII, instead of the FFVII remake.

    This is clearly just a pale faced lie, if what they said was true no games would be comming out for the ps3. Basicly this is just an attempt to get all the final fantasy seven fany boys (IE you) to shut up and move on wth your lifes.

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    i haerd rumors of a ff7 movie...hooray..(can you feel the sarcasm?)

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    wow. i dont like ff but...dang...interesting...

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    interesting but y remake something that is already popular
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    The IE you thing clearly doesn't apply to every one, but there is no denying the fact that this forum is brimming with ff7 fan boys and girls.
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    There have already been some threads about this subject... But yeah... Square is full of surprises so I'm not really going to assume anything or get my hopes up for anything about all this remake stuff.


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    Ive already said this a dozen times in this forum *sigh*

    anyways, it might happen in some years, but i strongly doubt it will.
    and its a fact that they're making ff XIII for the ps3, and most probably it will also come out for the 360 in some time.
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    Umm... Okay and your point is???

    Who cares about an FFVII remake for the PS3 when there is going to be like a freakin butt load of FFVII sequels??

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    Ring any bells?? Lol... Not to mention the Last Order anime short and much mroe crap to come that they prolly haven't announced yet... Lol...

    And just so that everyone know's the real quote and not your... unfinished crap.

    "If the team decided to make (FFVII) for PS3 with that kind of quality (tech demo), it would take 5 years and a team of 300 people. Characters models would be incredibily detailed, where you can change equipment and clothes and have them carried onto battles, fields and cinema scenes."

    As you can see... he's talking about an extremely detailed version where you can see each weapon, accesory and alot of other details clearly... He also said, it carries ontot he battles and cinemas... As in... The weapons and clothes you equip will be shown on the movie parts too....

    OF COURSE ITS GONNA TAKE THAT LONG... With the details explained there... OMG, that would be the freakin best RPG ever... Lol... And just to point out... FFVII was THREE years int he making... and of course with PS3 graphics... it would be way longer than that...

    If you're going to say something, say it in detail... Don't just say the parts you wanna to make it look the way you want it seen... Lol...

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    Sorry some of us don't know every final fantasy game coming out, what are the ladder 3?
    And just so that everyone know's the real quote and not your... unfinished crap.
    Everything important is in there.
    As you can see... he's talking about an extremely detailed version where you can see each weapon, accesory and alot of other details clearly
    I find that a hard pill to swallow since they managed to make it so all your weapons were diffrent in x, how big a jump would a few pieces of clothing really be?
    OF COURSE ITS GONNA TAKE THAT LONG
    If it would really take that long to make a ps3 game there would be no games coming out for the ps3. He's pretty much saying this "we can't re-make a game without a gigantic staff and years to do it but we can make a whole new game with half the staff and time." It makes no sense!

    and of course with PS3 graphics... it would be way longer than that...
    That's funny killzone 2 looks better than ff7 demo and i don't think it took them 5 years and 300 guys.

    FFVII was THREE years int he making
    But it wouldn't be a new game this time around it would be a re-make. I can't see why a re-make would take them 5 years. Come on use your head!
    If you're going to say something, say it in detail... Don't just say the parts you wanna to make it look the way you want it seen... Lol...
    Yeah i left out SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much some tiny details hardly makes the 5 year development time seem any less absurd.

    If you really believe this crap i have a bridge to sell you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Tyranus
    Sorry some of us don't know every final fantasy game coming out, what are the ladder 3?

    Everything important is in there.

    I find that a hard pill to swallow since they managed to make it so all your weapons were diffrent in x, how big a jump would a few pieces of clothing really be?

    If it would really take that long to make a ps3 game there would be no games coming out for the ps3. He's pretty much saying this "we can't re-make a game without a gigantic staff and years to do it but we can make a whole new game with half the staff and time." It makes no sense!


    That's funny killzone 2 looks better than ff7 demo and i don't think it took them 5 years and 300 guys.


    But it wouldn't be a new game this time around it would be a re-make. I can't see why a re-make would take them 5 years. Come on use your head!

    Yeah i left out SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much some tiny details hardly makes the 5 year development time seem any less absurd.

    If you really believe this crap i have a bridge to sell you.
    have you ever played through the whole game looking at all its details?
    it will take a freaking long time to rebuild a game of that scale on the ps3 engine. and really, five years aint that long for that kind of a project.

    However, the new games coming out isnt really remakes, so they dont have to remember all this and that and play the game hundreds of times to get the details right. If you look at the detail level of everything in the tech demo and look at the detailed and the massivly huge game the original is, i doubt it will take any less than at least five years to make.

    They even used four years at Heart of Darkness for the psx, cant really say that was a looong and detailed, good game.
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    Sorry some of us don't know every final fantasy game coming out, what are the ladder 3?
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    And they haven't said anything about that being all there is...


    I find that a hard pill to swallow since they managed to make it so all your weapons were diffrent in x, how big a jump would a few pieces of clothing really be?
    Uhhh... did you not listen? Highly detailed.... So detailed that everything would look basically look like an FMV from FFX... You change clothes and it'll still look like an FMV... You wear a freaking ribbon and you can see it... You see the details in the wepoans... -_- If you still don't understand after that... I don't know what to tell you... You really think making tons of detailed clothes and weapons and accessories can be made and synched into the game over night?

    If it would really take that long to make a ps3 game there would be no games coming out for the ps3. He's pretty much saying this "we can't re-make a game without a gigantic staff and years to do it but we can make a whole new game with half the staff and time." It makes no sense!
    Well... He said IF THEY make it all that detailed... Take out some of those cool things he said, and it wouldn't take as long... I believe he was just explaining the potential of the PS3...


    That's funny killzone 2 looks better than ff7 demo and i don't think it took them 5 years and 300 guys.
    The FFVII demo was made in 1 and a half months... And it didn't use the full potential of the PS3... Lol...

    But it wouldn't be a new game this time around it would be a re-make. I can't see why a re-make would take them 5 years. Come on use your head!
    No dude... Use your head... They have to create nothing into something... They have to plan for a long period of time... They have to design... They have to make all these things... Time things... All this stuff takes up a considerable amount of time... And YOU think it can all be done with a snap of a finger? HaH!

    Yeah i left out SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much some tiny details hardly makes the 5 year development time seem any less absurd.
    The fact is you did... Lol... Any other person would quote directly... Copy and paste... but you didn't...

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    I can't believe how gullible you people are! Did you see the new racing game coming to the 360? The one where they map actual land down to the finest details for miles and miles? Did that take the 5 years and hundreds of programerrs NO! Give it up this is just a lie, deal with it.

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    ohhh. so it would take a team of 300 guys and 3 years to make ffVII for Ps3... Where the hell did you read that dude???


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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Tyranus
    I can't believe how gullible you people are! Did you see the new racing game coming to the 360? The one where they map actual land down to the finest details for miles and miles? Did that take the 5 years and hundreds of programerrs NO! Give it up this is just a lie, deal with it.
    a new racing game is something other than completly rewritten, rebuild, redesigned rpg for a new platform. and still make it true to its fans.
    this is afterall one of the biggest rpgs of all times.
    and you dont need just programmers in a dev. team, please dont give me that.

    And yes, i dont believe that the time frame and amount of people could be said aloud like that, even though this IS a company that has been around for a long long time.
    I live in Switzerland!

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    Lol... Yeah, you know it would easier to take pictues and photoshop them... Lol... Its harder to create something from nothing... You try to create ONE sword using graphics and make the metal look real... Then try to make an animation where the metal really glares off of sunlight... Now think about this... Making it so that its in a game... Now think of a huge variety of swords... But not just swords... gloves, guns, shurikens, spears, staffs, and accesories...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MistaCloudStrife
    Lol... Yeah, you know it would easier to take pictues and photoshop them... Lol... Its harder to create something from nothing... You try to create ONE sword using graphics and make the metal look real... Then try to make an animation where the metal really glares off of sunlight... Now think about this... Making it so that its in a game... Now think of a huge variety of swords... But not just swords... gloves, guns, shurikens, spears, staffs, and accesories...

    -_-
    mhm, and as you said, this has to be done from the ground off! you cant take any of the existing ff7 material and put it into a game for the ps3.
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    Yeah i agree ff7 is huge, it's almost as big as FF 8 9 and x. And they aren't photoshopping trees, there doing the same thing any other developer would do. Makeing polygon models and giving them extremely high detail. And what the frell do you think a re make is? All they will do is re-use everything and make it really pretty. All games are started from the ground up only this time they have a template. But most games don't take 5 years and 300 people do they? Killzone has massive amounts of detail as does the racing game i mentioned. So "It has a huge amount of detail" is no excuse for the game to take 5 years and need 300 people.
    Where the hell did you read that dude???
    EGM you know that huge magazine?

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    Sigh.... You really should read up on graphics and how they make video games and stuff.... They can't re-ue any of the coding from the playstation because PS3 will have a much different coding system as the PS.... So they have to start form scratch there...

    Not only will they have to start from scratch, but they have to make WAAAAYYYY more codes to fit in the extra stuff... And this needs to go into detail as to not cause a glitch in the game...

    And about "Having a template" or whatever... Lol... Seriously this shows how much you really know about this stuff... Almost nothing... Just because it's a remake doesn't mean you can use everything form the original FFVII... the ONLY thing that would really be used is the story... Everything else is from scratch...

    It took how long to make Final Fantasy VII Advent Children... MANY MANY years... And thats just an animation... To make something with graphics similar to that BUT TO MAKE IT so its controllable... You know how much work taht is? AND AGAIN I MUST MENTION... you can change the clothes, weapons, and accesories.... Sigh...

    I really don't know how much I have to pound it into your head before you realize how big a task it would be... You even quoted from "Yoshinori Kita" and still don't believe it... Lol.... You think he's lying to the world... HAHAHAHA...


    And I see you must like Star Wars....

    Now SW3 took 3 years to make... Lol... DOES IT REALLY TAKE A WHOLE 3 YEARS TO CREATE A MOVIE WITH 1/10th THE CG AS A VIDEO GAME AND JUST ACTING??

    Yeah... You know it took forever just to make THAT much CG... How much more for a whole video game... AND AGAIN I mention... you can move the graphics around and they still look like an FMV movie...

    Did I pound that into your head enough?? Or do you still want more??
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    Copied some info about the 'remake'

    Quote Originally Posted by IGN
    May 16, 2005 - At the Sony E3 2005 press conference Square-Enix just showed a Final Fantasy VII trailer running on PS3.

    The demo depicted the introduction sequence to the original Final Fantasy VII, but was titled "Technical Demo for PS3." This means that it may or may not turn into an actual game. The PS3 can finally deliver Final Fantasy the way it was meant to be delivered -- just like the CG cutscenes. The demonstration was a complete recreation of the beginning to Final Fantasy VII using some "awesome, awesome" graphics. It's an exact duplicate of the original game. It could even be a full recreation.

    UPDATE: There will not be a Final Fantasy VII remake for PS3. Repeat, there will not be a remake. But, there will be a new Final Fantasy game. We'll have info on that as it happens.
    And from EGM


    Quote Originally Posted by EGM
    At first, Square Enix confused Sony conference attendees with a cinematic video from their upcoming series sequel, Final Fantasy VII, as a demonstration of PlayStation 3's backwards compatibility, only to turn around and blow away audience members with a real-time version of one of Final Fantasy VII's most memorable cinematics.

    Fan-favorite character Final Fantasy character Aeris was shown in the depths of polluted Midgar, only to have the camera draw out and show a fully-polygonal, detailed, real-time version of Final Fantasy VII's cherished city. After the pan out, however, the camera zoomed to another area of Midgar, where Cloud leaps off a train to show his gigantic sword to the invisible camera.

    When the video finished, rabid audience response prompted Square Enix president Yoichi Wada to announce the company had no intentions of developing a remake of Final Fantasy VII for the PlayStation 3, but reiterated plans to bring the popular series to the PlayStation 3 eventually.
    Sorry to all FF fans, I would love to see this myself, but there's more then one source saying it.

    There will be no FFVII remake on the PS3 for now.
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    Red Storm... Uhhh... yeah, we already know about that... o.O;;

    The interview with Yoshinori Kita took place after all that... Here's what he said...

    "If the team decided to make (FFVII) for PS3 with that kind of quality (tech demo), it would take 5 years and a team of 300 people. Characters models would be incredibily detailed, where you can change equipment and clothes and have them carried onto battles, fields and cinema scenes."

    I believe the remake is still in the discussion phase... o.O;;

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    I thought EGM was known to give out false information 40% of the time. o_O

    That's just what I heard, don't attack me. +_+
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistaCloudStrife
    Red Storm... Uhhh... yeah, we already know about that... o.O;;

    The interview with Yoshinori Kita took place after all that... Here's what he said...

    "If the team decided to make (FFVII) for PS3 with that kind of quality (tech demo), it would take 5 years and a team of 300 people. Characters models would be incredibily detailed, where you can change equipment and clothes and have them carried onto battles, fields and cinema scenes."

    I believe the remake is still in the discussion phase... o.O;;
    Whoops, ah well, lets hope it gets trough then.

    Quote Originally Posted by MsAeris
    I thought EGM was known to give out false information 40% of the time. o_O

    That's just what I heard, don't attack me. +_+
    *shrug* the rumour mill earns more then the facts, so it wouldn't surprise me.

    Did you know that when GTA 3 came out, the developpers demanded a cover, at least 6 pages of review and a minimum score of 90 to get an early review?

    As far as I know, there are only a few magazines which declined. (My own being one of them, fortunatley.) so that means that most game magazines in the world are biased as hell.
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    The magazine that's with 1up.com sukks butt... 1up is the site that started those COMPLETELY FALSE release dates for Advent Children... -_- So whatever mag had those rumors... I don't like it. =P

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    My point is even though the graphics would be from sctratch, the game wouldn't the story and events are already finished that's what i meant by template. Yes they would have to make new every thing else but have you seen how amazing elder scroll 4 looks? And it does everything you're talking about showing clothing and such. So it's possible to do and it wouldn't take 5 years and 300 people. Turn your fan boy chip off and look at the facts, if you did it would be really easy to see what a lie this whole thing is.
    Now SW3 took 3 years to make... Lol... DOES IT REALLY TAKE A WHOLE 3 YEARS TO CREATE A MOVIE WITH 1/10th THE CG AS A VIDEO GAME AND JUST ACTING??
    Yeah it takes 3 years to make a movie or star wars any way, first you have to write a script and plan how every scene is going to play out visally. Well really even before that all the actors and writers need a few months of down time. The acting portion should only take a few months, the CG would take a little longer but I'm sure they would do both at the same time to cut down on time. Then comes editing. And lastly you have to create build up from when it's finished so you get roughly three years. Not every movie takes 3 years, most don't but star wars was larger than most movies.

    And comparing movie FX to video games just isn't fair because they are very different. With movies you need to make sure the FX match what will be going on in that shot. But with games you have graphics engine and make a world with it. You can make a small or large world but still they are not the same thing. And movies tend to have higher quality more life like FX than games do. Also you seem to think the whole game will eb one big movie which take forever to make, but it would really just be one graphics engine. Videos are being used less and less because well for one thing they take forever. And for another graphics are getting to a point where the videos only look a little bit better. I mean the original ff7 had few videos in it any way.
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    I think it is very possible for a FFVII remake to take that long. The story may be finished but its not like they would take the same exact game and just make it prettier. I'm pretty sure they would make changes to several if not all of the diffenent lanscapes. They may change the way certain characters look. I doubt they would use the same turn-based system. They would use a different game engine.
    Plus when you talk about seeing the different equipment, clothes & weapons in the CG scenes....thats a heck of a lot of programming. Especially when you consider all of the different combinations of items for each character in each scene. The would make all of this extremely detailed too, so that would take a lot of time & planning.
    Plus they would probably add weapons, characters, items, and even new places to go. They would probably put more side quests as well. After all, why do a remake if your just gonna use all the same old stuff? Might as well just re-release the original.

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