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    Default ... Which is stronger: Newtypes or Coordinators?

    Gundam SEED or Universal Century:



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    Sorry but I don't get what you're saying. Oh yeah and what's Universal Century? Is that an anime?

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    Coordinators, I say. Only because I dunno what a NewType is... yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanzo
    Sorry but I don't get what you're saying. Oh yeah and what's Universal Century? Is that an anime?
    Universal Century is the era of Gundam shows (Moble Suit Gundam 0079, Stardust Memory 0083, War in the Pocket 0080, Zeta Gundam, Chars Counter Attack. 8th MS Team, Gundam F91) - These are the series that follow the concept of a Newtype.

    <c> A newtype is A type of human gifted with amazing powers of insight. Newtypes have an unusual ability to transmit and receive the thoughtwaves, or psycho waves, generated by human mental activity. This enables Newtypes to communicate with machines via thought alone, and their sensitivity to the thoughtwaves of other humans allows them to react to the hostile intentions of enemy pilots with superhuman speed. These abilities make Newtypes lethally effective in combat. <c>

    I hope this clears up any Gray Spots. I'm guessing that mostly everyone knows what a coordinator is due to the recent showings of Gundam SEED.



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    Well... In the Cosmic Era I know someone whos' both a Coordinator and a Newtype... so I seriously Pick SEED but I state that I also like Universal Century. Unlike that boring Boyband show named Gundam Wing, they're realistic. Where even Kira/Amuro can't do everything unlike your stupid GENERIC BOYBAND WHO WEAR SPANDEX. They're lucky the Grunt Quality in that show is ....meh. I seriously think that A GM or a Zaku would destroy them. Heck, Even Quess or Fa would give them a spanking...



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    I say coordinators are stronger
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    Um... I guess I am the only one so far who think Newtypes are stronger that coordinators... I dunno... Maybe I am just sold on Kamile, Amuro, Char, and Seabook as better piolts than Kira or Athrun.

    And you must also note that SEED has had more destructive weapons than the Universal Century... Well... I don't know about Zeta or F91... They might be on the same level as the Regular Strike... But Char did Amazing things in a Gelgoog which faoils in compairson to any Gundam,... I dunno. Maybe I am just old school.



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    Well, I intend to reserve such a judgement until I see a Coordinator fight a Newtype. This may or may not ever happen however, so my call based off of current known facts would be Coordinator victory. Newtypes are heavly psychic-based, whereas Coordinators, are mostly physically enchanced. It is a tough call to make, and one really should consider environmental, psychological, and geographical factors into the equation.
    The most important thing to keep in mind, however, is that Kira Yamato, Athrun Zala, and Shinn Asuka can not be considered you average Coordinators.
    I think that the question should be, which is stronger out of Coordinators, Newtypes, and SEEDs...
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    Well Kira is BOTH a Newtype and SEED Bearer



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    Now I know I am old school if everyone is picking SEED. Lol.



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    Quote Originally Posted by clowtrigger
    Well Kira is BOTH a Newtype and SEED Bearer
    And what proof have you of that? At this point, we can only speculate that he may be a Newtype.

    Star Alchemist, it is no fault of your own that many of these people are unaware of what a Newtype is. Be proud you are old school! You who know more of Gundam than Wing, SEED, and SEED Destiny. Even if SEED/Destiny are the best...
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    There's more to consider than just newtype/coordinator status.

    Newtypes are basically psycics, so obviously they are gonna have the upper hand when it comes to reading and stradegizing.

    However coordinators, depending on how they were altered, will have quicker dexterity so to speak, they can actually move the controls faster and adjust their machines to what the situation needs. A strong enough coordinator would be able to simply overwhelm and wear out a newtype who is an inexperianced pilot.

    Also it would be kinda unfair to assume that they have similar skills since a coordinator should generally have much greater skill due to the genetic enhancements.

    I think that in a prolonged battle a coordinator would win, but in just a general skirmish between the 2 I'd have to go with a Newtype.



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    I don't care much so I'll go ahead and go with newtypes or rather.......Metal Gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Mana
    And what proof have you of that? At this point, we can only speculate that he may be a Newtype.

    Star Alchemist, it is no fault of your own that many of these people are unaware of what a Newtype is. Be proud you are old school! You who know more of Gundam than Wing, SEED, and SEED Destiny. Even if SEED/Destiny are the best...
    Well, You seem to misunderstand me, I'm just Stating That Kira is the First Coordinator that Evolved to a Newtype. My basic philosophy in Gundam is that:
    Amuro>>>Kira>>>>>>>Heero

    and also, The Newtypes in Gundam X relate to the more Psychic Properties of a Newtype. Tiffa actually can talk to Dolphins! Kira has been developing NT powers right now, It has been blatantly displayed even at the last few episodes of SEED. Remember the Fllay scene, or even stranger, the Newtype Flashes of Raww caused by Kira??


    Another thing, Amuro while I say is one of the best Pilots, He still is outgunned by Kamille and Judau in terms of NT Power.



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    Well... I know that Gundam Piloting is more than Strength. The key to being a great pilot would be mentally intune with your mobile suit. Maybe Kamile and Seabook might not be the way. But Amuro and Char are very mentally intouch with their mobile suits. Thats why I think if given the same destructive Gundam, they could defeat a SEED. Simply Coordinators do not have the osychic-mental connections with the Gundams that Amuro or Char would have. Though Altered Genetics can make you more skillfull. But only though Human Evolution could you obtain psychic powers both mentally and physically.



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    Well, I don't argue with you... Newtypes essentially are a more complex race than Coordinators. The SEEDTypes are rare, there are only SIX of them (one of them does not even Pilot) but Kira is really as SEEDType and a Newtype Coordinator. While SEED bridges the Gap of Oldtype-Newtype in CosmicEra. Newtypes in X and in Universal Century are Really powerful, I believe that A single Ple would be able to pwn heero and co all at the same time.

    Another note on Kira's Newtype Powers: Kira was essentially designed to evolve. That's whe he's known as the Ultimate Coordinator, His rapid development has turned him into a somewhat Newtype/SEEDtype Coordinator. Another fact i would like to That I hope people would stop Worshipping incompetent series like Wing, for Wings Pilots would not last a bit in UC's and CE's battles
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    It's good to know someone still somewhat agrees with me out there. ^_^



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    I agree that I consider Amuro to be one of the all time best Pilots, along with Athrun,Shinn and Kira, from CE and Kamille, Char(CCA), Judau, and Usso to be the best pilots(Male) Instead of those boyband in SPANDEX...

    For the Females, I would consider Ple, Ple Two, Haman, Emma, Reccoa from UC and Cagalli, and Stellar from CE...
    @Bakakame: What do you know about NT's? Aside from practically saying you don't give any about UC and its animation, and Your constant it's because of the Genes concept which does not add up since alot of coordinators die in Destiny. The main point to what you're saying is that its because of the skill of the pilot regardless of the genetic state they are in. And you say It's unfair, LET ME REMIND YOU THAT AMURO LEARNED FROM JUST A MANUAL. And after that, he owns the whole ZEON army
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    [QUOTE=clowtrigger]Well, You seem to misunderstand me, I'm just Stating That Kira is the First Coordinator that Evolved to a Newtype. My basic philosophy in Gundam is that:
    Amuro>>>Kira>>>>>>>Heero[QUOTE]

    Actually, those were three different story lines....all are completely unrelated to each other, they are basically different Universes

    I'm a huge can of the Universal Century Gundam series, and the NewTypes are far better than the coordinators....also there was no superhuman-pilots in Gundam Wing, they used complex computer systems that inceased the capacity of the human mind, such as the Zero System.......
    i actually find it annoying when people do not know what the Universal Century is.....Its the start of all Gundam series, its been around since the 1970's when Kiyuki Tomino(aka Yoshiyuki Tomino) first thought of Mobile Suit Gundam.....Not many people know the history of the Gundam series, only what they see on Cartoon Network......
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    I think Newtypes are much stronger than coordinators.

    I mean coordinators were falling to naturals at almost 1-1 ratio when they got mobile suits.

    As for what just took up about half of this thread, what does SEEDtype have to do with this topic? And why are you bringing Heero/Gundam Wing into it? There were no Newtypes or coordinators in Gundam Wing, what relevance does that have to this thread?

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    [QUOTE=DarkTwilight][QUOTE=clowtrigger]Well, You seem to misunderstand me, I'm just Stating That Kira is the First Coordinator that Evolved to a Newtype. My basic philosophy in Gundam is that:
    Amuro>>>Kira>>>>>>>Heero

    Actually, those were three different story lines....all are completely unrelated to each other, they are basically different Universes

    I'm a huge can of the Universal Century Gundam series, and the NewTypes are far better than the coordinators....also there was no superhuman-pilots in Gundam Wing, they used complex computer systems that inceased the capacity of the human mind, such as the Zero System.......
    i actually find it annoying when people do not know what the Universal Century is.....Its the start of all Gundam series, its been around since the 1970's when Kiyuki Tomino(aka Yoshiyuki Tomino) first thought of Mobile Suit Gundam.....Not many people know the history of the Gundam series, only what they see on Cartoon Network......
    You and me alike, I am just saying that there are instances that Coordinators evolve to Newtypes, Kira is a Coordinator-Newtype ans SEEDType



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    Quote Originally Posted by Starkwynd
    I think Newtypes are much stronger than coordinators.

    I mean coordinators were falling to naturals at almost 1-1 ratio when they got mobile suits.

    As for what just took up about half of this thread, what does SEEDtype have to do with this topic? And why are you bringing Heero/Gundam Wing into it? There were no Newtypes or coordinators in Gundam Wing, what relevance does that have to this thread?

    I agree with the point that newtypes are way stronger, I think the only reason that most people feel that coordinators are stronger because a lot of them havnt seen UC... Or they think that just because coordinators have better Mobile suits(In my opinion I like the UC Gundams better.)



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    ^ in a more deeper sense, Coordinator is just a genetic type, While Newtype is more of a new specie.. So no contest. But that does not mean that Newtypes would pwn Coords 100%... In Piloting Skills are the determinant, not the genetic type. And since coordinators= Humans w/ edited genes... they too could evolve to Newtypes just like Kira. Amuro has better skill than Judau/Kamille bu Kamille and Judau have more powerful NEWTYPE POWERS so... in essence, being a Newtype is not a character shield since Rau died in SEED, Amuro and Char Died, Kamille was Vegetized... Ple and Ple two died and HAMAN dies also.
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