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    Douchebag is a douchbag. May he rot in hell for his deeds.
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    You can tell he was a loser by the first 30 seconds.


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    Default Re: An emo dude goes on a shooting rampage.

    This was almost an interesting thread. But you had to ruin it with that dumbass title.

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    Damn emo.
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    Default Re: An emo dude goes on a shooting rampage.

    I saw this out and about on tumblr and it's just disgusting. Ugh, I'm hella tired and I would put more on my response but I will get more sleep just to put in my say about all of this.

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    Default Re: An emo dude goes on a shooting rampage.

    My response to his life and whatever he did.

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    Default Re: An emo dude goes on a shooting rampage.

    I watched the video myself and felt just speechless. I admit to having the whole "Why don't girls like me?" and "Why do girls only like assholes?" train of thought when I was younger but never did I ever believe I was owed sex/love/affection/attention. Women have no "right" or "obligation" to sleep with you just because you want it badly enough. He says women weren't attracted to him and never gave him sex, probably because he even uses the term "alpha male" in total seriousness. Women aren't objects, they aren't obligated to like you just because you want it badly enough, and the quality of your life should never be rated/quantified by whether or not you're a virgin. This kid wasn't unattractive he was probably just an smart aleck. The 6 people he killed did nothing to warrant any of this and anyone who defends this guy, and believe me there actually are, need to go and see someone because they need just as much professional help as he did. Anyone who reads this thread, sees this in the news/on Tumblr/Reddit/wherever, please understand that this is someone who Men's Right's Activists and Red Pill-ers will get behind and even are, and those sorts of people are not to be encouraged or endorsed or even associated with. Talk to your friends. Talk to your parents, if you know someone like this, please please, do not let them "rant on" without saying something because this should not ever be allowed to happen here or anywhere. We can all do our part to prevent stuff like this, and the fact is much was attempted to prevent Elliot Rodger from doing anything as well, but they saw it as not a real threat and this is what happened. Guns aren't to blame, campus security isn't to blame. A corrupted worldview where women are possessions and should be treated as lower humans by men is to blame.


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    Default Re: An emo dude goes on a shooting rampage.

    He also published a nearly 140 page "manifesto" which is something like a biography (actually it is 141 pages long but the last 4 pages are blank, no text), where he goes on and complains more about his life, and also threatens violence against anyone who goes against him.

    I managed to track down this document. Here's the link for it on Scribd:
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    Default Re: An emo dude goes on a shooting rampage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackwaltz View Post
    Anyone who reads this thread, sees this in the news/on Tumblr/Reddit/wherever, please understand that this is someone who Men's Right's Activists and Red Pill-ers will get behind and even are, and those sorts of people are not to be encouraged or endorsed or even associated with.
    Sorry, there is no evidence of him being an MRA. His YouTube channel isn't subscribed to a single MRA YouTube channel. The dude has more ties to Pokemon than the MRM. He was subscribed to The Young Yurks. If I were to ever come into contact with this guy in some MRA community I would have told him his obsession with female companionship is unhealthy. The thing is, this guy doesn't care about men's rights so you won't find him in any MRA community.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackwaltz View Post
    A corrupted worldview where women are possessions and should be treated as lower humans by men is to blame.
    No it isn't. I've come across many women who hate men and men who hate women and none of them would go and kill other people because of it. This happened because this guy measured his own self worth on his ability to get laid, and had no concern for the lives of other human beings. He even wrote the following:
    If you could release a virus that would kill every single man on Earth, except for yourself because you would have the antidote, would you do it? You will be the only man left, with all the females.
    Which pretty much shows that he regards men as less than women, because men can't offer him sex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wio View Post
    Sorry, there is no evidence of him being an MRA. His YouTube channel isn't subscribed to a single MRA YouTube channel. The dude has more ties to Pokemon than the MRM. He was subscribed to The Young Yurks. If I were to ever come into contact with this guy in some MRA community I would have told him his obsession with female companionship is unhealthy. The thing is, this guy doesn't care about men's rights so you won't find him in any MRA community.
    I never said he was, I just likened his way of thinking to an MRA. Though he may not be linked to them he has been, possibly, linked to a website where he and a bunch of other men complain about "PUAs" (pick-up artists) who "prey" on desperate men like himself and others to make money.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/ucsb-...ess+Insider%29

    Why you'd be at an MRA gathering I have no clue, unless you were protesting it. The whole idea of "men's rights" is ridiculous from the get go and I hope you don't subscribe to any of that train of thought.

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    No it isn't. I've come across many women who hate men and men who hate women and none of them would go and kill other people because of it. This happened because this guy measured his own self worth on his ability to get laid, and had no concern for the lives of other human beings.
    Right because they weren't subjected to years of "neglect" and "personal hell" like Elliot Rodger said he was. Those people dealt with their issues in a healthy way. But the fact is at some point in Rodger's life he was either taught, or allowed to believe, that sex is the end all be all and is something he "deserves" and has an inherent "right" to. This guy didn't live a life devoid of care, affection, or necessities, if the manifesto posted above is really Rodger's then the hardest thing he's had to deal with is a divorce and the uncomfortable issues you get stuck in the middle of as a child, like your father quickly replacing your mother with another woman. He went on vacations around the world for crying out loud, when his father cut some child support to his mother she still had enough money to move to a house with four bedrooms in California.

    Rodger hated everyone. Women because they didn't sleep with him and men because they got to sleep with the women he wanted. All of his thoughts centered around sex it seemed, sure he talked about not getting "love" either, but during his last YouTube video he didn't talk about wanting to feel companionship or love from someone nearly as much as he talked about how he couldn't be seen as sexually attractive to women or about slaughtering innocent people.


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    Default Re: An emo dude goes on a shooting rampage.

    Probably the guy was too desperate the first time he tried, got rejected and then his self-entitled personality developed which just repelled more women (and people in general).

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    Damn emos!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackwaltz View Post
    I never said he was, I just likened his way of thinking to an MRA. Though he may not be linked to them he has been, possibly, linked to a website where he and a bunch of other men complain about "PUAs" (pick-up artists) who "prey" on desperate men like himself and others to make money.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/ucsb-...ess+Insider%29
    There is no link to him and the MRA, at all. This Elliot didn't give a damn about any of the issues that faced men. So your logic is that because he hates PUAs and MRAs typically dislike PUAs, that makes him like an MRA? What kind of reasoning is that? That is kindergarten reasoning.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackwaltz View Post
    Why you'd be at an MRA gathering I have no clue, unless you were protesting it. The whole idea of "men's rights" is ridiculous from the get go and I hope you don't subscribe to any of that train of thought.
    They are the only people that discuss disparities in homeless, suicide, incarceration, education, victimization in violence crimes, etc. without trying to blame masculinity or men. If you want the MRM go away, create your own community that more effectively tackles men's issues.

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    Right because they weren't subjected to years of "neglect" and "personal hell" like Elliot Rodger said he was. Those people dealt with their issues in a healthy way. But the fact is at some point in Rodger's life he was either taught, or allowed to believe, that sex is the end all be all and is something he "deserves" and has an inherent "right" to.
    A lot of people commit suicide and no one ever hears about them. What makes this guy different is he took some people alone with him.

    But if you look in his manifesto, he doesn't act as though women are supposed to be possessions. He doesn't think they are lesser beings. He is much more like someone with a big ego who didn't get a job offer. He understands the employer has the right to choose who they hire. He thinks he has all the qualifications for that job, and this is what he meant by the word "deserve". He doesn't find a job, most likely because he doesn't actually apply anywhere, and so he goes on a killing spree, killing mostly non-employers. Now, would you call such a person a communist? Would you say they want to force companies to hire people? There is a clear distinction to be made here.

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    Default Re: An emo dude goes on a shooting rampage.

    Only a matter of time before we see Animedude making videos like this, I'm sure of it.
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    Default Re: An emo dude goes on a shooting rampage.

    I know some people are thinking "white men are privileged assholes" or "men don't do anything but murder and rape" and stuff like that now, but seriously though, you can tell that he's messed up. Messed up people do messed up shi t. Not everyone's messed up. Amen
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    I know some people are thinking "white men are privileged assholes" or "men don't do anything but murder and rape" and stuff like that now, but seriously though, you can tell that he's messed up. Messed up people do messed up shi t. Not everyone's messed up. Amen

    Loneliness doesn't discriminate. It deludes people in general. Just like that Asian guy back at VT ...

    Race shouldn't cross anyone's mind in a crime (unless the crime had something to do with race!).

    EDIT:
    "Do you think this will fit in the box?" draws a reply like "Well duh; it's brown, isn't it?""

    Irrelevant. Just like race should have nothing to do with perpetrators of a crime.
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    Why did this thread's OP post get closed? This is an important news topic.
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    Default Re: An emo dude goes on a shooting rampage.

    @Wio

    I am likening him to Men's Rights Activists because his entire video, the entire reason he went on a killing spree and ended 6 peoples lives and injured 7 others, is about how he never got to have sex. Period. Not sex with anyone he could, just women. It was a crime against the female gender that had male casualties thrown in, probably because they tried to stop him or got caught in the line of fire. The way he speaks is just like a spurned individual that can't understand that the issue is not with the opposite sex but with himself. Much like the mistaken belief of misandry and the taking away of power from men that the Men's Rights Activists believe. Men were Kings, Men were Priests, Men were Law-Makers and Presidents and Rulers. Women have been slowly gaining the ability to do the things that some were able to do from the creation of these positions and MRA's think that this means they're trying to take over, they're not. They just want equal treatment. Plus homelessness, suicide, incarceration, education, and all the rest are issues plaguing everyone, not just men. If the people who are a part of the MRM want to change these things then why don't they join Habitat for Humanity, or the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence, or a suicide help hotline rather than try to make claims that men are losing all sorts of "power" and "rights". Last I looked the only real issue men are having is that many Black fathers are having a very hard time regaining custody of their children even when they have the means to take care of them.

    As for your last comment, no I wouldn't call that person a communist and I agree that half of the problem was probably that he never put himself out there and tried to sell himself as someone worth investing interest in but none of that excuses his actions. 6 people died. Three were stabbed to death in his apartment. He set out to fight his "war" against the women who wronged him and that's what needs to be realized and understood.


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    Default Re: An emo dude goes on a shooting rampage.

    what an extremely bad decision to make.. very unstable person :|
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    Default Re: An emo dude goes on a shooting rampage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Animedude5555 View Post
    Why did this thread's OP post get closed? This is an important news topic.
    I don't know. This post seemed pretty reasonable. It must be that you're just unpopular. I suspect that even if you started writing posts that the forum community always considered interesting, and never broke the rules while doing so, that you'll still be treated this way because of your past history and bad reputation. I'm very sorry to suggest that.

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    Default Re: An emo dude goes on a shooting rampage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackwaltz View Post
    Three were stabbed to death in his apartment. He set out to fight his "war" against the women who wronged him and that's what needs to be realized and understood.
    "I am not part of the human race. Humanity has rejected me…. Humanity has never accepted me among them, and now I know why. I am more than human. I am superior to them all. I am Elliot Rodger… Magnificent, glorious, supreme, eminent… Divine! I am the closest thing there is to a living god. Humanity is a disgusting, depraved, and evil species. It is my purpose to punish them all. I will purify the world of everything that is wrong with it. On the Day of Retribution, I will truly be a powerful god, punishing everyone I deem to be impure and depraved." (p 135)

    I'm sorry, where is this war against only women you mentioned? I think you need to reevaluate the situation.
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    @Blackwaltz

    You are likening him to Men's Rights because you want to attack their ideas by association. There is no reason to believe that the MRM would instigate violence, because that is the one thing they consistently denounce. However, there is no link between the killer and MRA communities. Your most recent comment is that he killed people because he was a virgin, and that this somehow makes him related to MRAs. How? Where is the connection?

    You know, he was subscribed to The Young Turks, right? The founder of TYT, Cenk Uygur, has stated a few times that men who can't get laid are losers and vice versa. Should we blame TYT for this incident as well? You want to play the guilt by association game, and this subscription shows what his political views are.

    It was a crime against the female gender that had male casualties thrown in
    When you say that the death of 4 men and 2 women is a crime against women, you are demonstrating a lack of compassion for men. You are demonstrating an attitude that no matter how many men are harmed, women are the real victims. All those gaps I listed before are a result of this attitude. The MRA communities address this attitude you are displaying. In his manifesto he stated a desire to kill men. You even acknowledged this earlier. So now you say the three men he stabbed to death where caught in the line of fire. I didn't know there was a line of fire on a knife. Let me guess, there was a woman on the other side of a wall about 20 feet away and she was the real target. You can tell because of the bearing in which the knife was pointed.

    Men were Kings, Men were Priests, Men were Law-Makers and Presidents and Rulers. Women have been slowly gaining the ability to do the things that some were able to do from the creation of these positions and MRA's think that this means they're trying to take over, they're not.
    Men were soldiers and often forced into war, Men worked in many dangerous jobs, Men had their own gender roles making it harder for them to bond with their children, Men didn't know if their children were in fact their children. Why are you neglecting to mention this? Is it ignorance, apathy, or something else? These are the actual issues the MRAs are always bring up. Frankly speaking, MRAs are mostly happy that women now have to work whether they like it or not. The private sector has made a ton of accommodations to the work place in a response to an influx of women. Businesses couldn't have gotten away with treating women the way they used to treat their male workers.

    Plus homelessness, suicide, incarceration, education, and all the rest are issues plaguing everyone, not just men.
    They disproportionately affect men. Do you think this detail should just be ignored?

    Last I looked the only real issue men are having is that many Black fathers are having a very hard time regaining custody of their children even when they have the means to take care of them.
    Wait, now you do want to consider proportionality? Which is it?

    It's amazing the lengths you are going to for the sake of rationalizing the issues men face.

    If the people who are a part of the MRM want to change these things then why don't they join Habitat for Humanity, or the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence, or a suicide help hotline rather than try to make claims that men are losing all sorts of "power" and "rights".
    Because homelessness, incarceration, suicide, lack of education, etc. are symptoms of another problem entirely. That problem is the way people like you view men. Four men die and two women die but it's really just an attack on women. That is the problem.
    Last edited by Wio; 05-25-2014 at 07:11 PM.

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    Default Re: An emo dude goes on a shooting rampage.

    We're speculating on "why" so I'll throw in my two cents.

    While there may be other causes, I think a significant part of a lot of these events is the fame these people know they will receive. We've got records of people doing acts, knowing they'd be killed for it, for the fame going back to at least
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herostratus

    People are just sick that way, and by giving them exactly what they want our media is fueling these things.

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    Default Re: An emo dude goes on a shooting rampage.

    Wow, totally not going to friendzone anyone. That'll get me killed. Might as well date someone against my own will because people like him nowadays are nuts.

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