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Yeah.. So I might be in the minority, but I can't stand sub. I hate having to read the entire time, and having to look down. I want to see the actual show. You can't tell what they are saying. So it's just a constant garble of noise haha. I will choose dub over sub any day. Now I'm not saying that people who like sub are wrong. I'm just saying it's what I like.
No offense or anything as dubs vs subs come down to preference (subs have better voice acting though), but that excuse makes me wonder if the dub fanbase is made up of slow readers. Doing both at the same time is really easy..
Also, just because someone doesn't understand japanese does not mean they are dumb enough to not realize what sounds good to the ears. If you can't then I am sorry, but not everyone is like you or other people who cannot.
Dubs sound really bad for the most part as a good chunk of dubs seem to ignore the character themself and dish out dubs for the fans. Homura from Madoka Magica in dub sounds completely different than what her character should sound like and it makes her become a less interesting character. Though, I'm sure you'll disagree.
I never watched Kenshi in sub so I can't debate that, but my friend would gasp from that. Though, not really sure TBH.
Opinion? Erm. An opinion is liking dubs if you don't like subs. Though not liking subs and saying subs have worse voice acting than dubs is very different. Some dubs are pretty decent, but most dubs just don't do the anime justice.
I'm not sure how many anime you've compared dub vs sub, but if its under 100 then why are you acting like you know it all? Unlike you though I will avoid jumping to conclusions. How many have you compared without being biased?
Lol, IT DOES MATTER. How can you form an opinion without knowing the difference between the dubs and subs for anime? What evidence do you have? How can any person say it depends on the taste of the person, but not listen to both versions? That is like saying the US Power Rangers is better than the original WITHOUT seeing the original. It goes against logic and it really makes zero sense. How biased.
Do you get it now? Are you going to change my reasoning on why I said you were jumping to conclusions? Will you please research before debating? Man. If you joined 360a with that argument you'd get destroyed.
What proof do I have that subs are better you ask? Other then me listening to both versions and listen to how most dubs love to destroy the image of the character with horrible voice acting and voices that change the intensity of a character. Plus, dubs make no sense most of the time. A great example of this would be the K-On movie dub. There is a part when Mio is talking english (hence the dub) and a person replies to her in english and Mio is confused due to not understanding him. This stems back to the fact that so many anime get poorly executed dubs that make no sense with the story. Have you watched AKB0048 in dub? So much of that makes little sense and most of the voices sounded off. I have ears y'know.
Don't even get me started on the Another dub. Where is the energy in this horror based anime? At least the sub voice overs gave that actual sense they were in fear. Dubs do that so much. NO ENERGY with the roles they get. Some dubs are fine, but for every dub that is fine.. FIVE dubs are not.
Another example. 4kids dub. Holy cow what is this? One Piece has a fantastic sub, why ruin it with that dub? It goes beyond saying that 4kids is TERRIBLE and makes dub overall look worse. I could go on, but those are a few examples of how bad dubs truly are. I do still watch dub (just to compare), but most are just not good and/or confusing. Almost so confusing that at times you have to watch the subs first just to understand what is going on.
I'm down with people liking dubs, but subs are still better and I will not back down on that.
I love how you jump to conclusions thinking everyone who thinks subs sound better than dubs don't understand japanese.
That is why I said that. I never said that. Point to where I said that. I quite clearly said unless they knew the language. Most don't. I also said I doubt those who knew the language watched subs and stuck to raw.
What proof do I have that subs are better you ask? Other then me listening to both versions and listen to how most dubs love to destroy the image of the character with horrible voice acting and voices that change the intensity of a character. Plus, dubs make no sense most of the time.
That's not proof, that still falls under opinion. Opinion =/= fact. It's just your opinion. As for AKB0048, I haven't seen it period so I can't comment on it. Same goes for K-On. As for 4-Kids, yeah already know they're bad. I wouldn't even use them in a discussion for or against something since they're nothing good about them. And another point, how do you know the sub is an accurate translation. For all you know the text doesn't have any correlation to the voices. No need to debate that since my point is there's so many factors to a language that not knowing it means you can never be certain which is key to my whole debate. With dubs you can be since you know the language.
My comment was towards the other guy and me and how you thought instantly we didn't know Japanese. I know plenty of people who know the language and watch it with subtitles still on. I'm on a xbox party actually once a week that does just that. Ask them why they do it.
Now let me quote your post. Just in case you reply before I finish <-
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Did you really group "dubs make no sense" as an opinion? How is the K-On movie example an opinion? Do you need more examples?
Not all subs are fully accurate, but for the most part they are.
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Last edited by Blanc; 01-17-2014 at 02:04 AM.
I'm not giving up nor does this mean you are. I just see this going on for four more pages and that isn't fair to the OP.
So how about it?
Btw, Fairy Tail seems like a Stupid Tale, never seen it. But if i want to see clowns fighting, then i'd just search a youtube clip of two guys dressed up as one while fighting lol.
Last edited by Ohyeah; 01-17-2014 at 02:52 AM.
many of the english dubs suck because things get lost in the translation.
i make my own dubs and after doing a half a season's worth i can say that it comes down to the writers. instead of trying to directly translate the script, writers should try to create a new script that can be understood by the audience. some japanese culture does not translate well and vice versa. english, especially american english, dubs should be american, culturally speaking.
the dubs i make are aimed at the hiphop community and african american community. so i use terms and cultural references that make sense to that demographic. they dont usually fit the original plot lol but thats okay i guess hahahaha.
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Also, I think the voice acting is just a matter of opinion. You are never going to turn someone from one side to another. I enjoy dub voice acting more then sub. I'm sure others do too. Others enjoy sub more than dub. No one is more right than the other.
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