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    Default Signs, symbols, portents, and omens... what do you look for?

    What do you look for as a sign that you're on the right path? Me I look for 8 sided circles. The sign of primal chaos and quantum physics. Haven't seen a decent TV show yet where it hasn't shown up at least once.

    So what do you look for as a sign?





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    Default Re: Signs, symbols, portents, and omens... what do you look for?

    Easy, I don't look. If god hates that I'm apathetic and oblivious, then he can do something about it or make things plainly obvious.

    Note how happy life is when you're not constantly looking for signs from heaven.
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    Default Re: Signs, symbols, portents, and omens... what do you look for?

    A higher power in any case, but I get your point. I don't pray because I feel that if there is an all knowing god in charge they already know what I want and have decided if I'll get it so why bug them?

    Still I look for signs because I figure we're here for their entertainment and if they want to play it's best to let them. Besides I have a lot of free time and it helps fill it if I keep an eye out for my sign.

    Anybody else?
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    Default Re: Signs, symbols, portents, and omens... what do you look for?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton_n View Post
    The sign of primal chaos and quantum physics.
    What the actual hell are you on about? Why would low-energy physics leave omens? And even if it did, don't you think it would be h-bar, or psi, or a bra-ket, or something related to quantum physics?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    What the actual hell are you on about? Why would low-energy physics leave omens? And even if it did, don't you think it would be h-bar, or psi, or a bra-ket, or something related to quantum physics?

    An octagram works quite well.
     
    I said eight pointed circle because I just don't like to use words with too many syllables around here due to the people who, for example, will argue the relationships between cartoon characters for weeks but yell at me when I try it with "Barbie" because she isn't "real". *Snicker*

    The octagram is the symbol for much of quantum physics as well as chaos magic in both actual magical texts, religions such as taoism, and even TV shows, anime, books, etc. It crops up a LOT.

     













    And in an infinite universe almost by definition it would leave omens. The things we can imagine only take up a tiny portion of what exists and you just imagined it so on some level it HAS to happen.

    One dimensional physics is incredibly complicated, due to an inability to express it in a three dimensional way without an analogy. In any case in science one is supposed to look for patterns that repeate and if such a symbol appears repeatedly in connection to an event then theoretically at least there must be a connection. I don't pretend to know everything, just what I've studied and this sucker pops up from time to time.




    Now does anyone here have their own sign they look for?
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    Default Re: Signs, symbols, portents, and omens... what do you look for?

    Christian here. We all about dem signs and symbols. It's kinda our thing.

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    Default Re: Signs, symbols, portents, and omens... what do you look for?

    I always thought an empty grave made a better symbol for Joshua (re: Jesus) than the cross.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton_n View Post
    I always thought an empty grave made a better symbol for Joshua (re: Jesus) than the cross.
    Well it is funny that you bring that up because the Joshua tree foreshadows the cross. The prophet Joshua (Yehoshu'a) which is the english name for Jesus lead the Israelites after Moses death. Before Joshua died he had the stone placed at the tree as a burial but then again it is empty to show the symbolism of their next leader (Jesus) to have an empty grave which we see when Christ's tomb was empty on the third day.

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    Default Re: Signs, symbols, portents, and omens... what do you look for?

    I'm agnostic. I don't go out of my way to find these things, nor do I go out my way to avoid them.

    ... I'm basically just living in that state where when I die, if I end up in Heaven (or Hell), then I'll just shrug and be all "Eh, I guess there is a God after all." Until then, people.
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    Default Re: Signs, symbols, portents, and omens... what do you look for?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton_n View Post
    The octagram is the symbol for much of quantum physics as well as chaos magic in both actual magical texts, religions such as taoism, and even TV shows, anime, books, etc. It crops up a LOT.
    Why would quantum physics appear in magical texts? Physics is the opposite of magic. It is science, the empirical study of nature. Hard, cold logic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton_n View Post
    One dimensional physics is incredibly complicated, due to an inability to express it in a three dimensional way without an analogy. In any case in science one is supposed to look for patterns that repeate and if such a symbol appears repeatedly in connection to an event then theoretically at least there must be a connection. I don't pretend to know everything, just what I've studied and this sucker pops up from time to time.
    This is flat out wrong. One-dimensional physics is leaps and bounds easier than 2D and 3D physics. In fact, finding a way of reducing the number of dimensions in a mathematical problem is a pretty common simplification strategy. And 1D physics does exist in the real world, in for example some types of carbon nanotubes which are possible to describe with 1D physics.
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    Default Re: Signs, symbols, portents, and omens... what do you look for?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton_n View Post
    So what do you look for as a sign?
    I see your name as a good sign, Clayton.
     
    Because I love you
     
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    Default Re: Signs, symbols, portents, and omens... what do you look for?

    By "octagram" maybe you mean an anime-deformed version of the actual Stella Octangula, but your vision is bleak. You don't understand it, but you expect to see it in pop culture?
    Learn geometry, then learn mysticism, then learn sacred geometry, then look around you and you'll be trippin' signs

    And by the end of the day, realize it's all subjective and that those symbols only have as much power as you give them, and you could've gone on without them.



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    lol @ mods arguing with clayton.

    i look for the enigmatic neon OPEN sign when i am hungry. i obey the red octagons at 4 way stops, they entail powerful laws of society. i look for signs that my ramen noodles are cooked, such as loss of color and increased flexibility. the movie Signs was garbage, why would an alien stand on top of a barn looking menacing? seriously? these aliens can travel interstellar space but they can't get past a locked wooden door? water injures them: hey director, water molecules are present in the atmosphere, why don't the aliens melt immediately? oh, it was holy water? bullsh*t, aliens aren't demons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    Why would quantum physics appear in magical texts? Physics is the opposite of magic. It is science, the empirical study of nature. Hard, cold logic.
    Actually no. First off physics is mostly theory based on limited information. So far we've found exceptions to nearly all of it.

    Second if magic exists (which I can attest that it does) then it is merely a science which we have limited information about (re: Physics) and quantuim physics pretty much states that in some form magic must exist since everything does.


    This is flat out wrong. One-dimensional physics is leaps and bounds easier than 2D and 3D physics. In fact, finding a way of reducing the number of dimensions in a mathematical problem is a pretty common simplification strategy. And 1D physics does exist in the real world, in for example some types of carbon nanotubes which are possible to describe with 1D physics.

    Actually the first dimension is a point in which all things happen in the same place at the same time since time and space do not in fact exist there... in fact according to quantum physics they may not exist here, merely being figments of our imagination used as a filter since our minds cannot actually grasp what is there. And i say point as that is the closest three dimensional concept we have for the "point" where everything that has happened, could happen, will happen, might happen, and could never happen all happen. Every moment in time. Every parallel dimension, universe, everything outside it (a bit of a fifth dimensional spin there) and things and directions we cannot imagine. All in that one spot. Which is why it's called Primal Chaos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton_n View Post
    Actually no. First off physics is mostly theory based on limited information. So far we've found exceptions to nearly all of it.
    Maybe quantum physics, but not regular physics. Physics is merely a mathematical approach to view, understand, and explain matter and the forces that act upon it or it acts upon. BTW, if physics can explain it, then it's not an exception to physics. It's people not comprehending physics having their mind blown. ie: Magic.
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    Maybe quantum physics, but not regular physics. Physics is merely a mathematical approach to view, understand, and explain matter and the forces that act upon it or it acts upon. BTW, if physics can explain it, then it's not an exception to physics. It's people not comprehending physics having their mind blown. ie: Magic.
    I'm afraid not. That's a comforting lie people tell themselves to get through the day without thinking about the fact that we're hurtling through a nearly unknowable universe that we don't truly comprehend. We attempt to apply some logic to it to keep the uncertainty at bay, largely based on actions with effects that repeat until we can, hopefully, grasp some small part of it.

    You for example can't even be sure that the person next to you sees color the same way you do.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton_n View Post
    I'm afraid not. That's a comforting lie people tell themselves to get through the day without thinking about the fact that we're hurtling through a nearly unknowable universe that we don't truly comprehend. We attempt to apply some logic to it to keep the uncertainty at bay, largely based on actions with effects that repeat until we can, hopefully, grasp some small part of it.

    You for example can't even be sure that the person next to you sees color the same way you do.
    Have you ever taken a physics class? I mean sure, I can't sure if everyone sees the color blue the way I do (being that I don't know what rods and cones everyone has in their retinas), but through physics I know that visible light (which the color blue is apart of that spectrum) is an EM wave and each color of the spectrum has it's own frequency and wavelength. Plus you're only looking at one side of physics with light/EM waves. There's also the side that deals with matter, mass, density, weight, velocity, angular momentum, vectors, momentum, heat, linear expansion, and that's barely the tip of the iceberg from a High School physics course.
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    That's a neat optical illusion! With a keen eye, you can see that the new height of the bar is slightly less. A little geometry reveals a loss of 1/4 units with a new height of 23/4 (unit = 1 square). This gives an area of 23 which is consistent with subtracting that small square's area (1) from the original area (24).

    But there is Banach-Tarski's paradox (it's not actually a paradox but a theorem, it's just counter-intuitive) which demonstrates that it's possible to cut a ball up into pieces and assemble two identical balls from those pieces ... or worse, you can cut a pea up into pieces and assemble the sun from those pieces.

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    Default Re: Signs, symbols, portents, and omens... what do you look for?

    since when will you see octogram symbols TV shows? and how is this symbol even relative to know that you are on a good path?
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    Default Re: Signs, symbols, portents, and omens... what do you look for?

    Yes I have taken a physics class or two and if asked the teachers will admit that it's all guesswork and will probably be proven wrong a hundred years down the line just like the last 12 times.


    As for Octagrams in TV shows and the like... I posted a picture from Sleepy Hollow up there. If you want more look for it yourself.


    Now about the signs and portens and omens and things... remember a couple years ago when specific species kept dying in groups all over the planet? Birds, fish, manatees... just before the supposed Mayan prophecy thing?
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    Default Re: Signs, symbols, portents, and omens... what do you look for?

    People aways mistake signs as the cause of these things. It'slike astrology. The stars themselves are just used as a way to mark the time a taurus, Aquarius, Dog (chinese) etc. is born, they don't cause it.

    Also I thought of some for the TV question




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    I'll know the end of the world is near when the signs from Revelation and other Biblical end times prophesies start showing up in current events. Oh wait they are happening.

    Wars and rumors of wars: check
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    Significant increase of the drug-resistant bacteria: check (this mentioned in Revelation as, "pestilence" one of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse)
    Sun becoming less active than in recorded history: check (this is mentioned in Revelation as, 1/3rd of the sun's light shall be struck down)
    Comet ISON (trajectory after passing the sun unknown with possibility, though small, of earth impact) : check (in Revelation is mentioned, something like a mountain with fire was thrown into the sea).

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    I always wondered why people think god would bother wiping us out. I've seen the universe. It'd probably be easier and more likely for him to just go off somewhere else and restart from scratch. Ditto for the devil. It's not like we're going anywhere any time soon.


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    I recently believe that both good and evil contribute to each other in a balanced state. So the Yin-Yang symbol suits me pretty fine.
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