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    Default Cheap ass camper's gun on Star Trek: DS9

    It's called the TR-116. It fire's bullets made of tritanium, which is a metal that is many times harder than diamond. When the gunman is wearing an Exographic Targeting Sensor (which looks pretty much like a knockoff of the DBZ "Scouter" units) which allows him/her to see through walls, and also the end of the gun barrel is equipped with a Micro Transporter which allows bullets after being fired from the gun to be teleported to any selected location, this gun is the ultimate sniper weapon. When this gun is used in this way it allows anyone to get ridiculously cheap kills on anyone.

    Below is a picture of Esri Dax holding this weapon and wearing the Exographic Targeting Sensor.

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    Default Re: Cheap ass camper's gun on Star Trek: DS9

    A. Based on the shape and not being able to see their eye through it, I think the eyepiece is more likely modeled after the AH-64 Apache's IHADSS



    Though there are plent of things like that.

    B.

    Within the Star Trek setting there are hundreds of different things that mess with teleportation and so it'd be worthless in many situations. I think that weapon only shows up in one episode as a result.

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    Default Re: Cheap ass camper's gun on Star Trek: DS9

    Quote Originally Posted by sunnyside View Post
    A. Based on the shape and not being able to see their eye through it, I think the eyepiece is more likely modeled after the AH-64 Apache's IHADSS



    Though there are plent of things like that.

    B.

    Within the Star Trek setting there are hundreds of different things that mess with teleportation and so it'd be worthless in many situations. I think that weapon only shows up in one episode as a result.
    yeah but the gun doesn't automatically follow the line of sight of the operator :P
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    Default Re: Cheap ass camper's gun on Star Trek: DS9

    Worthless? It allows you to take out anyone within range of the Exographic Targeting Sensor and Micro Transporter. You could sit in one room of a spaceship or starbase, and if you had enough ammo you could take out everyone on that ship or base. And it would be nearly impossible to figure out who did it. The bad guy on DS9 was found through a combination of detective work and luck. If the guy had been on a mission not to target a few specific people, but rather the entire crew (including security officers who were trying to solve the crimes) there would be a LOT more chaos and difficulty finding the killer. With a gun like this, the bad guy could have been a one man "mass shooter" and pretty much wasted everyone on the DS9 starbase. But he didn't, because then there wouldn't be any more eps of DS9.

    But yeah, a gun like that would be the ULTIMATE handheld anti-personel weapon. And that's why I said it's cheap. There's no skill needed at all. If a gun like that was available in the Halo games, you'd have one camper sitting in his base, and he'd be taking out every one else on the multiplayer.
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    Default Re: Cheap ass camper's gun on Star Trek: DS9

    /facepalm

    A. Star Trek outdates Dragon Ball Z.
    B. It's a science fiction show. The gun is not a "cheap weapon." i know nothing about it, but from the way that you described it, the weapon is quite strategic. There is no "camping" in war. Star Trek isn't Call of Duty or Halo.
    C. That's a woman. Not a "bad man."
    D. That weapon is not a sniper weapon. A sniper rifle is used for stealthy, long range tactical elimination of specific targets. Not shooting through walls with bullets that teleport to kill everyone.
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    Default Re: Cheap ass camper's gun on Star Trek: DS9

    Quote Originally Posted by ZombieWolf2508 View Post
    /facepalm
    A. Star Trek outdates Dragon Ball Z.
    B. It's a science fiction show. The gun is not a "cheap weapon." i know nothing about it, but from the way that you described it, the weapon is quite strategic. There is no "camping" in war. Star Trek isn't Call of Duty or Halo.
    C. That's a woman. Not a "bad man."
    D. That weapon is not a sniper weapon. A sniper rifle is used for stealthy, long range tactical elimination of specific targets. Not shooting through walls with bullets that teleport to kill everyone.
    E. No one cares. Get a life.
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    A. DBZ outdates Star Trek: Deep Space 9.

    B. This was used for doing cheap, remotely launched, assassination attacks, without the victim even being in the same room as the attacker. Watch the episode "Field of Fire" in Star Trek: DS9. It was a very cheap weapon. I know Star Trek isn't Halo. But this is the kind of weapon n00bs wish were in Halo, because it's the only way that a n00b would win in Halo against good players (I'm speaking from personal experience here as a n00b, in comparison to other players I've played, who seemed like infinitely good players).

    C. Again, watch the episode "Field of Fire" in Star Trek: DS9. That picture is Ezri, but there is a bad guy in the episode. Ezri has one of these guns. The bad guy has another one of these guns.

    D. It might as well be a sniper weapon, for its pinpoint accuracy, and a ridiculously cheap one for being able hit anything anywhere, regardless of how many walls their are between it and its target, and super stealthy for not needing to shoot through the wall which would leave bullet holes as evidence of where the shot came from.

    E. I'm not even gonna reply to this one.


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    Default Re: Cheap ass camper's gun on Star Trek: DS9

    Quote Originally Posted by Ranshiin View Post
    Not in America it doesn't.
    I was talking about the release date of the specific episode of ST:DS9 compared to the DBZ anime's release date in the US.

    The anime DBZ was first broadcast in the US in 1996. The DS9 episode called "Field of Fire" (the episode in question here) was aired in 1999.

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    Default Re: Cheap ass camper's gun on Star Trek: DS9

    Quote Originally Posted by Animedude5555 View Post
    /Double Facepalm

    A. DBZ outdates Star Trek: Deep Space 9.

    B. This was used for doing cheap, remotely launched, assassination attacks, without the victim even being in the same room as the attacker. Watch the episode "Field of Fire" in Star Trek: DS9. It was a very cheap weapon. I know Star Trek isn't Halo. But this is the kind of weapon n00bs wish were in Halo, because it's the only way that a n00b would win in Halo against good players (I'm speaking from personal experience here as a n00b, in comparison to other players I've played, who seemed like infinitely good players).

    C. Again, watch the episode "Field of Fire" in Star Trek: DS9. That picture is Ezri, but there is a bad guy in the episode. Ezri has one of these guns. The bad guy has another one of these guns.

    D. It might as well be a sniper weapon, for its pinpoint accuracy, and a ridiculously cheap one for being able hit anything anywhere, regardless of how many walls their are between it and its target, and super stealthy for not needing to shoot through the wall which would leave bullet holes as evidence of where the shot came from.

    E. I'm not even gonna reply to this one.


    Here's some advice for you. Next time you don't know anything about an episode of a show, please don't go blabbing about it as if you do, just to make yourself sound smart. I saw this episode just the other day. I know what I'm talking about. You don't.

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    Default Re: Cheap ass camper's gun on Star Trek: DS9

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    I don't care if I ever get to post again on here, nor do I care if I hurt your widdle feelings, but get the hell off of the internet and either get a life or jusy hang yourself with your ethernet cable. None of us would care. So please, frell off and leave this poor forum alone.





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    Default Re: Cheap ass camper's gun on Star Trek: DS9

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    I was talking about the release date of the specific episode of STS9 compared to the DBZ anime's release date in the US.
    Why? What has this particular episode got to do with the argument? It sounds like you're just coming up with excuses to 'win'. You argued that DBZ came before Star Trek. I proved that for US audiences, Star Trek was aired before DBZ. Now you argue that you meant 'this episode', when it was never part of the argument as it was the two series' in general being argued, not specific episodes.

    How about I argue that I'm now talking about a specific episode of DBZ, that just happens to air after the date of this episode? What then?

    Just admit it, you lost the argument. ZombieWolf said Star Trek was aired before DBZ. ZombieWolf was right. Deal with it, sunshades and all.

     
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    Default Re: Cheap ass camper's gun on Star Trek: DS9

    Quote Originally Posted by Animedude5555 View Post
    Worthless? It allows you to take out anyone within range of the Exographic Targeting Sensor and Micro Transporter. You could sit in one room of a spaceship or starbase, and if you had enough ammo you could take out everyone on that ship or base. And it would be nearly impossible to figure out who did it. The bad guy on DS9 was found through a combination of detective work and luck. If the guy had been on a mission not to target a few specific people, but rather the entire crew (including security officers who were trying to solve the crimes) there would be a LOT more chaos and difficulty finding the killer. With a gun like this, the bad guy could have been a one man "mass shooter" and pretty much wasted everyone on the DS9 starbase. But he didn't, because then there wouldn't be any more eps of DS9.
    It's worthless in a military setting because it relies on the micro transporter, and transporters don't work through shields (and there are a lot of ways to shut them down). On most ships they'd probably be able to pinpoint the transporter signature (one of the plot points of DS9 is that the ship is an old kinda junky Cardassian ore processing facility with pretty lackluster systems, allowing for all sorts of stuff like that). And when you have a rogue officer there are a lot of ways for them to do a lot of damage, such as screwing with antimatter containment to blow a ship (and the starbase it's docked at).

    But yeah, a gun like that would be the ULTIMATE handheld anti-personel weapon. And that's why I said it's cheap. There's no skill needed at all. If a gun like that was available in the Halo games, you'd have one camper sitting in his base, and he'd be taking out every one else on the multiplayer.
    Actually Halo has shields too. And really the TR116 is just a battle rifle (maybe even an assault rifle) with a pretty small ammo capacity. In the show it's modified with that micro transporter on the end that makes it look long. But with single shots instead of bursts, it's take a while to down someones shields in Halo, and maybe you could add in an improved version of knowing where a shot came from when you get hit, so you'd know the direction the shooter is in. Also its a fidly interface that might have a hard time hitting a moving target (maybe you could add in a lag with the bullet transporting). In that case it actually might make for an interesting game mechanic because it would be the perfect weapon for punishing campers, since they're standing still and would essentially be forced out of their camping spot, whereas it wouldn't be very effective against players on the move. I rather like the idea.

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    hey, i'm having a hard time understanding something. could a mod like @Eris , @Serated or @Ranshiin explain to me why @Clayton_n , @Animedude5555 and @Ugly.Ted arent permabanned? its incredibly obvious what their purpose here is. they log onto this website and think of ways to p*ss people off because they think its funny. i've seen two users say they were going to straight up quit the site because of animedude's antics. they offer nothing but destruction to the website. will the mods' patience with them ever run out?
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    Default Re: Cheap ass camper's gun on Star Trek: DS9

    Quote Originally Posted by horrendous View Post
    hey, i'm having a hard time understanding something. could a mod like @Eris , @Serated or @Ranshiin explain to me why @Clayton_n , @Animedude5555 and @Ugly.Ted arent permabanned? its incredibly obvious what their purpose here is. they log onto this website and think of ways to p*ss people off because they think its funny. i've seen two users say they were going to straight up quit the site because of animedude's antics. they offer nothing but destruction to the website. will the mods' patience with them ever run out?
    WELP. You can block the user, that will more or less hide all their posts, blogs, threads, etc with a big nasty heading saying 'YOU HAVE BLOCKED THIS USER.' I did that with Animedude a long time ago.

    On the technical level, they havent really done anything too bad (as far as I know) that would warrant a ban beyond the simple, obnoxious posts and threads (and blogs). On another level, there is the measure of 'well if you dont like their stuff, dont reply to them' and maybe they'll stop posting. But oddly enough, the most active non-spam threads (I.E. Say random things version abillion, last thing you X, X the next poster, etc) that receive a lot of attention, albeit negative, are made almost exclusively by Animedude and Clayton. So I guess there's something to be said on stupid nonsensical threads like this, versus more deep and interesting stuff that usually gets ignored immediately.

    Hope that answers a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by horrendous View Post
    hey, i'm having a hard time understanding something. could a mod like @Eris , @Serated or @Ranshiin explain to me why @Clayton_n , @Animedude5555 and @Ugly.Ted arent permabanned? its incredibly obvious what their purpose here is. they log onto this website and think of ways to p*ss people off because they think its funny. i've seen two users say they were going to straight up quit the site because of animedude's antics. they offer nothing but destruction to the website. will the mods' patience with them ever run out?

    Animedude has been banned like a dozen times. He just keeps making new accounts.

    The others don't really break any rules.

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    the problem is the site is apparently losing users because of these people. yes, technically they don't break any rules, but they also serve no purpose to the site other than to harass and start arguments. while on one hand, users should have thicker skin and be able to shrug off the stupidity, on the other hand, why keep these users around when they are only here to disrupt?

    i dunno. i'll put them on ignore but i dont like seeing other users getting sucked into trap arguments until they become so annoyed and angry that they blow up or quit the site.
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    Default Re: Cheap ass camper's gun on Star Trek: DS9

    Quote Originally Posted by horrendous View Post
    the problem is the site is apparently losing users because of these people. yes, technically they don't break any rules, but they also serve no purpose to the site other than to harass and start arguments. while on one hand, users should have thicker skin and be able to shrug off the stupidity, on the other hand, why keep these users around when they are only here to disrupt?
    This site has always had idiots. If you ban all the idiots, what you get is a really boring website where everyone just sits around agreeing with each other. Trust me, it doesn't work.

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    Default Re: Cheap ass camper's gun on Star Trek: DS9

    AnimeDude5555 seems to have improved. Yeah OK, his choice of topic isn't the best, but at least he writes more than a sentence like he used to.

    Maybe he doesn't know how to choose good topics. Instead of complaining, why not try to teach him how to choose topics for this audience? Everyone wins that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nslay View Post
    AnimeDude5555 seems to have improved. Yeah OK, his choice of topic isn't the best, but at least he writes more than a sentence like he used to.

    Maybe he doesn't know how to choose good topics. Instead of complaining, why not try to teach him how to choose topics for this audience? Everyone wins that way.
    Because he's had three years to learn. You can't teach a lame dog new tricks.

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    Default Re: Cheap ass camper's gun on Star Trek: DS9

    Quote Originally Posted by GameGeeks View Post
    Because he's had three years to learn. You can't teach a lame dog new tricks.
    Not to mention that he's begged several times for forgiveness and that he would 'change his ways', and yet within a month has gone back to posting the same sort of stuff that had everyone wanting to stuff pineapples inside him in the first place.

    Me? I don't even take him seriously any more. No point.
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    Default Re: Cheap ass camper's gun on Star Trek: DS9

    Well, what are your options?
    1. Insult him.
    2. Ignore him.
    3. Provide constructive criticism.
    It has been demonstrated repeatedly that (1) does not work. So, what will you try next?

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    Default Re: Cheap ass camper's gun on Star Trek: DS9

    I would like to point out that 1 out of every 6 threads current on MISC are made by Animedude, no other user has done this. Suggestion, make more threads to weed out his dominance.

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    Default Re: Cheap ass camper's gun on Star Trek: DS9

    Quote Originally Posted by Serated View Post
    I would like to point out that 1 out of every 6 threads current on MISC are made by Animedude, no other user has done this. Suggestion, make more threads to weed out his dominance.
    Well, threads are kind of special. Most people have substantially more posts than threads (I have 2 threads at the time of this writing).

    So, how about imposing a thread:time limit? Here's how to choose the limit:

    Compute the mean number of threads created for, say, the top 5-10% most active users over 1, 2, 3, ..., 7 days and pick the most representative value as a limit over the respective number of days. That is, a user would be allotted no more than N threads per M days.

    I think most users will never even come close to said limit, and those that do are potentially annoying users, bots, spammers, etc...

    EDIT:
    Or potentially more effective, limiting the ratio of say, users_most_recent_threads:N_most_recent_threads. This directly addresses the problem Serated mentioned.

    For example, a user cannot author more than 10% of the 100 most recent threads.
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