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    Default Ever seen Kill Bill, the Japanese version?

    That movie is so violent it looks like a parody of violent movies rather than an actual movie that is meant to be taken seriously as a violent movie. What's different between the US version and the Japanese version? Well the US theatrical version cut a lot of scenes and converted others to black&white footage (red blood must be more offensive than dark gray blood) to keep it rated R (otherwise it would have been NC-17, for violence, which is unusual as NC-17 is usually reserved for porno films, so yeah it's VERY violent). But there was never a "directors cut" or "unrated version" released on DVD in the US that would have shown the film uncensored/uncut like a number of other movies have done. Instead that's what the Japanese DVD release has. It is fully unedited. A bad guy gets his head chopped off with samurai sword, which then causes a fountain of blood gushing like 10 feet high (something like you'd expect to see in an anime movie). Lots of other people lose lots of limbs, each of which is shown having blood spraying out of the body at the place where the limb was missing, like water out of a garden hose, with the nozzle set to an almost misty spray. Like 100 guys try to take out the heroine of this show, only to be severely dismembered by her uber ninja skillz with her katana. One guy gets split right down the middle, from the top of the head, straight down, and he falls in half, his left side to the left, his right side to the right.

    So if you are up for watching an ultra, beyond belief, bloody, violent, sword fight movie, get a copy of the Japanese version of Kill Bill. If you can't find an actual DVD of it, download the torrent (which I won't link to here, because AF doesn't condone piracy).

    By the way, here's an interesting bit of trivia:
    They used so much fake blood in this movie that they ran out before the end of filming, and had to substitute water for a couple of the blood spray scenes (resulting in clear blood gushing out of the wounds in one or two scenes, and pink diluted blood in another scene or two). This isn't noticeable in the US version where the entire big sword fight scene is shown in black&white, but is easily seen in the Japanese version which has that entire fight scene in color.
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    Default Re: Ever seen Kill Bill, the Japanese version?

    Funny, when I watched Kill Bill I don't remember any of it being in black-and-white.

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    Default Re: Ever seen Kill Bill, the Japanese version?

    I should have checked the poster before clicking this. Just another cancerous troll thread.

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    Default Re: Ever seen Kill Bill, the Japanese version?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ranshiin View Post
    Funny, when I watched Kill Bill I don't remember any of it being in black-and-white.

    You need to stop using torrent sites, you're obviously bad at using them.

    I've never seen the US version of Kill Bill, only the Japanese version. I was immediately turned off to the US version, when I read an online article about movie censorship that mentioned that parts of the US version of Kill Bill movie were done in black&white to censor out the redness of the blood in some of the fight scenes, so as to bring the rating down to R. So instead of wasting my money on the less violent US version, I went straight for the torrent of the Japanese version (pretty much the only way to get Japanese movies in the US, unless you are willing to spend many times the movie's actual value to get it imported, and then hoping your DVD player has a region unlock code, or else hope that you can find someone to hack the circuits to make it region free, or else go out and buy a known region free pre-hacked player or one with known unlock codes from various online stores in China that have "potentially illegal" DVD players because that may be illegal because of the fact they've been bought, modded, and resold by 3rd party hackers or that have unlock codes that have been illegally leaked by a rouge employee at the manufacturing company; all of which could land you in jail, and is much less discrete than torrents because these involve you making ILLEGAL purchases of CONTRABAND merchandise that might get caught upon import by customs agents).

    As you can probably tell, as a matter of principle, I don't like censorship. I think it destroys a movie from what the director's original vision was.



    Now maybe I'm wrong and you actually did find a US version that had no censorship, but if so, then the article I was basing my decisions on was incorrect.
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    Default Re: Ever seen Kill Bill, the Japanese version?

    Quote Originally Posted by Animedude5555 View Post
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    Don't go making these threads if you don't have the knowledge to back it up. Yes scenes where in black and white but don't go spouting that like it's first hand knowledge. There's also a US version that wasn't in black and white which @Ranshiin might have. But that doesn't change the fact you tried once again to make yourself look smart and once again utterly fail at it. And it's funny you now claim to detest censorship. When you first joined you where all about it and wanted to get hired by 4Kids because you'd be so good at it. Then there's that hentai image you edited to cover up the nudity and asked people how "kawaii" it was. You need to stick stick to a set of lies and not constantly change your story.

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    Nope.

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    Default Re: Ever seen Kill Bill, the Japanese version?

    Quote Originally Posted by Animedude5555 View Post

    As you can probably tell, as a matter of principle, I don't like censorship. I think it destroys a movie from what the director's original vision was.
    Okay, as a HUGE Kill Bill fan, allow me to clear up some things for everyone. This might be a long read, so grab a cookie or two.

    To start things off, please remember that the word "censorship" is usually used in relation to the government (or some other entity) actively trying to prevent things from being exposed to other people. When it comes to the MPAA (Motion Picture Association of America), they only give ratings based on content. They don't "censor" anybody. The decision to tone down content in a film to fit a particular rating or audience falls down ENTIRELY on the filmmakers. The MPAA doesn't force anybody to do anything. Hell, one doesn't even need to have their films rated in the first place. So there's that.

    Next, just so everyone is clear on this, this is the clip in question. It is from Kill Bill: Volume 1. It is the Showdown at the House of Blue Leaves.

    WARNING: this is the unedited version, so it is gory as hell.



    Here, everything is in color. Glorious, bloody color. This is the Japanese version. In the American version, most of the fight between Beatrix and the Crazy 88 is in black-and-white, starting from when Beatrix plucks that guy's eye out until the video ends (so yeah, that bloody start is still in color). And yes, there are times when the splatter is clear because they simply ran out of fake blood.

    Now for the mind-blowing part. Yes, Quentin Tarantino did tone down the movie for the American release for an R rating, however, this was a decision he made on his own (the MPAA didn't "censor" him; he could have kept going if he wanted to) and it was actually a jab at old Hollywood practices. You see, back in the day, it was standard practice to make violent scenes in black-and-white to censor out blood. However, as you have already pointed out, this only tones things down by a very little bit, since getting shot in black-and-white with black blood is still inherently violent.

    In the Showdown at the House of Blue Leaves, guys are getting eyes plucked out, stabbed in the stomach, getting multiple limbs chopped off, and even getting freaking sliced down the middle. But back in Old Hollywood times, the solution to all of this would be to simply "tone it down" to black-and-white. Japan doesn't do this (well, not nearly as often; read: Naruto), so the jab would have been lost. So he switched back to the original color version for the Japanese release. This isn't to say that ALL gore is avoided in the Kill Bill series; just in that one instance. For example, Beatrix plucks out Elle Driver's eye in Kill Bill: Volume 2 and steps on it, all uncensored.

    Now, when comes to getting Japanese DVDs, nowadays its easier than you think. And you can get region-free DVD players rather easily (and legally) online. And honestly, if you own a computer, you can change the region-codes rather easily (you are simply changing settings; no hacking required). Hell, if you get the Japanese version on Blu-ray, you can avoid all of the legal issues (the US and Japan share a Blu-ray region).

    So you basically got an illegal version of a movie (thus robbing a sale from a director that you "support") in order to fight "da man" based on the details of an article that you can't confirm because you haven't seen the American version, which doesn't matter since the "censorship" was part of the joke anyway. Good job.
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    Default Re: Ever seen Kill Bill, the Japanese version?

    You mentioned Naruto was bloody? I'm pretty sure it's not. I've seen lots of eps (back when it was on Disney XD or Nicktoons or Cartoon Network, don't remember which now) and there was not so much as one drop of blood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Animedude5555 View Post
    You mentioned Naruto was bloody? I'm pretty sure it's not. I've seen lots of eps (back when it was on Disney XD or Nicktoons or Cartoon Network, don't remember which now) and there was not so much as one drop of blood.
    Uh ... maybe because they're not allowed to depict cartoon violence on a kids' channel? You didn't already know that?




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    And I'm UK, not US. Maybe the UK got the 'uncensored' version, I can't remember. It's been a while since I watched it, I don't own the DVD I just borrowed it off of a friend.
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    Default Re: Ever seen Kill Bill, the Japanese version?

    Quote Originally Posted by Animedude5555 View Post
    You mentioned Naruto was bloody? I'm pretty sure it's not. I've seen lots of eps (back when it was on Disney XD or Nicktoons or Cartoon Network, don't remember which now) and there was not so much as one drop of blood.
    Er...you answered your own question. On Cartoon Network and Disney XD, blood is edited, so no, you are not going to see animated blood if you watch Naruto (or any anime) on those channels.

    Of course, that wasn't even the reason why I brought it up in the first place. I mentioned Naruto as an example of how even uncut Japanese versions of shows can be toned down for an audience. For example, when Gaara uses his Sand Coffin on some hapless jerk, you see this:



    No matter which version of Naruto you watch, you will see black streaks flying everywhere. Those black streaks are supposed to be blood, but even Japan has a limit to what is shown on prime time television. In the Japanese version, the scenes are extended slightly and the blood is a bit more pronounced, but it is black streaks all the same. Its one thing to have blood running down someone's face and another to have blood dripping off an umbrella.



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    And I'm UK, not US. Maybe the UK got the 'uncensored' version, I can't remember. It's been a while since I watched it, I don't own the DVD I just borrowed it off of a friend.
    The US release was the only version of Kill Bill that was edited, due to the request from the MPAA to tone down the Showdown at the House of Blue Leaves. If the version of the fight that you saw was in color (like the clip I posted), then you saw the unedited version of it.
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