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    Default Anime where bad guys win

    Can you think of some anime where the bad guys ultimately win? I love those. I want more.

    I have

    bastard!!

    Slayers

    Disgaea

    Desert Punk

    Kaku Ren Bo

    Dragonball Z


    And more, but I can't temember off the top of my head


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    The bad guys win in Dragon Ball Z? Ultimately would mean at the end of the series Goku and friends are defeated and the villian stands on top.
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    Default Re: Anime where bad guys win

    At the end of "Hellsing" Sir Integra was in Jail. How about that?


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    Default Re: Anime where bad guys win

    Does it count when the heroes are evil?
    Last edited by Felix Mage; 07-28-2013 at 11:25 AM.

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    Default Re: Anime where bad guys win

    I guess you can say Code Geass since Lelouch was an evil prick. A cool and smart evil prick.
    If Minecraft had a Japanese intro.

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    Default Re: Anime where bad guys win

    Death Note.

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    Default Re: Anime where bad guys win

    Quote Originally Posted by Ayu 「あゆ」 View Post
    Death Note.
    Depending on your morals.

    also, I don't think there's any. As close as I can think is Cowboy Bebop... and that's cause it's kind of a bitter sweet ending.




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    Default Re: Anime where bad guys win

    Quote Originally Posted by beyond_birthday View Post
    Depending on your morals.

    also, I don't think there's any. As close as I can think is Cowboy Bebop... and that's cause it's kind of a bitter sweet ending.
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    Default Re: Anime where bad guys win

    if you consider Mugen and Gin bad guys for murdering hordes of people, then the bad guys win in samurai champloo.

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    Default Re: Anime where bad guys win

    Quote Originally Posted by Felix Mage View Post
    Does it count when the heroes are evil?

    Yes


    Quote Originally Posted by Yoko Littner View Post
    The bad guys win in Dragon Ball Z? Ultimately would mean at the end of the series Goku and friends are defeated and the villian stands on top.

    Name one main character who did not start out as a bloodthirty killer... or at least a thief and a cheat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton_n View Post
    Name one main character who did not start out as a bloodthirty killer... or at least a thief and a cheat.
    Um. What does that have to do with what I said o_o? You're not calling Goku, Vegeta or Yamcha villains are you? By the end they are all heroes. No way are they villians.

    And Goku.. He never killed anyone or stole anything before hitting his head. Grandpa Gohan was after and no way on purpose.
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    Berserk
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    I'm pretty sure these stop halfway through the manga with the enemy winning. (If my memory is correct)

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    Default Re: Anime where bad guys win

    I guess a part of Gurren Lagann fits the bad guys winning. After what happened to Kamina in episode 8 the beastmen do break Simon's spirit for a few episodes and make him a really negative person.

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    Default Re: Anime where bad guys win

    Shiki - doesn't really have a good side in it
    Shakugan no Shana III(probably would be best for you to watch the other two series before though)

    I can't really think about any other now.

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    [QUOTE=Yoko Littner;2777714]Um. What does that have to do with what I said o_o? You're not calling Goku, Vegeta or Yamcha villains are you? By the end they are all heroes. No way are they villians.[quote]

    And Piccollo. And YES! They're all villains! In fact didn't Yamucha go back to the desert in the end presumably to go back to stealing?


    As for Vegeta... wait until he sees one of these





    And Goku.. He never killed anyone or stole anything before hitting his head. Grandpa Gohan was after and no way on purpose.
    Actually as a baby he tried before he got dropped on his head. He was sent here to destroy us all!
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    Default Re: Anime where bad guys win

    Pretty sure Goku doesn't qualify as ever being a villain. A bad tempered baby doesn't count. And then there's Gohan...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GameGeeks View Post
    Pretty sure Goku doesn't qualify as ever being a villain. A bad tempered baby doesn't count. And then there's Gohan...
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    [QUOTE=Clayton_n;2778002][QUOTE=Yoko Littner;2777714]Um. What does that have to do with what I said o_o? You're not calling Goku, Vegeta or Yamcha villains are you? By the end they are all heroes. No way are they villians.

    And Piccollo. And YES! They're all villains! In fact didn't Yamucha go back to the desert in the end presumably to go back to stealing?


    As for Vegeta... wait until he sees one of these








    Actually as a baby he tried before he got dropped on his head. He was sent here to destroy us all!
    Yamucha? Don't you mean Yamcha o_o?.. At least get the names right because you already fail on everything else. Just because Yamcha returned to the desert does not mean he will return to being a thief? Where are you getting your derp logic from? Trollville? Assumptions never work in a debate, especially ones that make almost no sense. You really think after meeting Goku and such that Yamcha will become a villian? Derp.

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    So not having any control over yourself and protecting the Earth qualifies as a villian now? Man. This is the 3rd time you've qualified as a troll or just really.... not smart. I hope you are a troll because being this inaccurate may not be possible.
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    Default Re: Anime where bad guys win

    Pretty much ^that. Lack of control doesn't make you a villain.

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    Default Re: Anime where bad guys win

    [QUOTE=Yoko Littner;2778051][QUOTE=Clayton_n;2778002]
    Quote Originally Posted by Yoko Littner View Post
    So not having any control over yourself and protecting the Earth qualifies as a villian now? Man. This is the 3rd time you've qualified as a troll or just really.... not smart. I hope you are a troll because being this inaccurate may not be possible.

    Actually any attempt to kill innocent people and or destroy the Earth, even for the best of purposes makes you a villain, even if you don't have any control over your actions.

    I think we established that when Sailor Moon's 4 year old daughter was turned into Dark Lady or what not and tried to kill them all.[COLOR="Silver"]
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    Default Re: Anime where bad guys win

    [QUOTE=Clayton_n;2779463][QUOTE=Yoko Littner;2778051]
    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton_n View Post


    Actually any attempt to kill innocent people and or destroy the Earth, even for the best of purposes makes you a villain, even if you don't have any control over your actions.

    I think we established that when Sailor Moon's 4 year old daughter was turned into Dark Lady or what not and tried to kill them all.[COLOR="Silver"]
    Never seen Sailor Moon so can't really reply to that, but I tend to disagree. Goku had no control over his body or mind so he is def not a full blown villian.. Especially by the end of the series. Why are we ignoring all the times he fought for justice and risked his life before and after that tournament moment in series? Doesn't that make him a hero? Quit ignoring 99% of the series because Goku is way more of a hero than a villian and same goes for Yamcha.

    Plus, looking back at your OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton_n View Post
    Can you think of some anime where the bad guys ultimately win?
    Goku is a hero by the end. Going by your OP as well.
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    Default Re: Anime where bad guys win

    In Slayers and DBZ the good guys win, unless you're doing some critical thinking of how the Bad guys eeked some small victory out in the end... Also check out M.D. Geist 1 and 2, and anything with the DC Comics character Lobo as the protagonist.
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    Default Re: Anime where bad guys win

    How about Darker Than Black?
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    Default Re: Anime where bad guys win

    Fate Zero. Kotomine Kirei is a 'bad guy' in my opinion...

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    Default Re: Anime where bad guys win

    So name some animes where the bad guys do win.

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