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    Default So the people of Egypt have just overthrown their president.

    With the help of the army, they've just kicked Morsi out of office. What do you think of this situation? Is it going to be good or bad for the US? What about for Israel?
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    Default Re: So the people of Egypt have just overthrown their president.

    Isn't this their third president?

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    Default Re: So the people of Egypt have just overthrown their president.

    Perhaps the new leader that emerges will be better than Morsi (which is already a pretty low bar) but I'm not very optimistic.
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    Default Re: So the people of Egypt have just overthrown their president.

    I think it is hilarious! I love it! I was expecting an Assassination, but the Muslim Brotherhood sponsored Morsi. And the People of the Arab Republic of Egypt (which contains a lot of Greek Orthodox Christians in the north) wants a more secular Government. I hated Morsi. He was just another Sadat and even worse than Mubarak. This is a good Sign. But it will be bad for us, since that Moron Kerry allied us with Morsi's Government and helped secure Aid to the Morsi Government of the Arab Republic of Egypt. I just hope in their next Elections, they will allow universal Suffrage for all People of voting Age. I think this will be a stabilising Force in the Middle East. It is a good thing. I just hope Kerry and Obama do not alienate these People. We need them on our Side for our Interests in the Mid-East to be preserved: the permanent Preservation of the State of Israel. Israel must be protected at all Costs.


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    Default Re: So the people of Egypt have just overthrown their president.

    Good on them for not becoming Iran 2.0.

    As for Isreal? I don't think this will really change things. They're still doing all they can to antagonize the neighbors, which isn't really a sustainable foreign policy. Unless they significantly change, I don't see the state lasting another century. The US will only offer support for so long as they can afford to, after all.



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    Default Re: So the people of Egypt have just overthrown their president.

    I don't know why the US keep supporting Isreal, the conflict never ends and it's just wasted money and resources. I am neither for Isreal or the Arab republic since both are always in the wrong. I don't see how the conflict will abate with Mansour being the interim leader.. I think he's even secretly a muslim as well.
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    Default Re: So the people of Egypt have just overthrown their president.

    Quote Originally Posted by darksky967 View Post
    I don't know why the US keep supporting Isreal, the conflict never ends and it's just wasted money and resources. I am neither for Isreal or the Arab republic since both are always in the wrong. I don't see how the conflict will abate with Mansour being the interim leader.. I think he's even secretly a muslim as well.
    You do not know why we keep supporting the State of Israel? We gave two hundred fifty million Dollars to the Arab Republic of Egypt since we have a Muslim President and a Moron Secretary of State.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RainyDayMan View Post
    You do not know why we keep supporting the State of Israel? We gave two hundred fifty million Dollars to the Arab Republic of Egypt since we have a Muslim President and a Moron Secretary of State.

    I actually didn't know that Barack Obama was a muslim but yes, it appears that he is :O
    his full name is aparently "Barack Hussein Obama"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    Unless they significantly change, I don't see the state lasting another century.
    They only option they have is to move to Russia or to build a floating island country. It really isn't in their hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wio View Post
    They only option they have is to move to Russia or to build a floating island country. It really isn't in their hands.
    Their only option, do they wish to last, is to seek peace. It's going to require painful concessions, but there really isn't much else they can do. Their current policy of threatening every single neighbor they have simply isn't a viable long term solution.

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    I actually didn't know that Barack Obama was a muslim but yes, it appears that he is :O
    his full name is aparently "Barack Hussein Obama"
    Eh? Obama is a christian. But I guess some people think people named Hussein are automatically muslim.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    Their only option, do they wish to last, is to seek peace. It's going to require painful concessions, but there really isn't much else they can do. Their current policy of threatening every single neighbor they have simply isn't a viable long term solution.
    Peace requires every party involved to agree, so it's not on their hands alone. There are groups which genuinely won't be satisfied until Israel no longer exists anymore and they're hiding among civilians.

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    Eh? Obama is a christian. But I guess some people think people named Hussein are automatically muslim.
    And that being black automatically makes him a terrorist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darksky967 View Post
    I actually didn't know that Barack Obama was a muslim but yes, it appears that he is :O
    his full name is aparently "Barack Hussein Obama"
    Just because his name includes Hussein doesn't mean he is a muslim, aye aye aye if I had Ł1 for every time I heard that I would be a very rich person. But he is in actual fact a Christian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranshiin View Post
    And that being black automatically makes him a terrorist.
    Being black makes any criticism against him racist. Even when his race isn't mentioned once, people will come charging in with this straw man. At least it's matured into something that is more adorable than annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wio View Post
    Being black makes any criticism against him racist. Even when his race isn't mentioned once, people will come charging in with this straw man. At least it's matured into something that is more adorable than annoying.
    When will people learn that the people that we should hate are those who cause atrocities like murder and not those just because their skin colour is a different colour to theirs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aether View Post
    When will people learn that the people that we should hate are those who cause atrocities like murder and not those just because their skin colour is a different colour to theirs?
    It's not that simple. First of all, it really isn't hate, but a misplaced resentment that characterizing most racism. Second of all, racists genuinely believe the biggest atrocities concerning their community are caused by a certain race. To top it off, political correctness forces many misplaced resentments to fester in secret, rather then being challenged legitimately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wio View Post
    It's not that simple. First of all, it really isn't hate, but a misplaced resentment that characterizing most racism. Second of all, racists genuinely believe the biggest atrocities concerning their community are caused by a certain race. To top it off, political correctness forces many misplaced resentments to fester in secret, rather then being challenged legitimately.
    Fair enough, political correctness has gone a bit too far after all you shouldn't technically say baa baa black sheep any more it has to be politically correct baa baa rainbow sheep

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    Quote Originally Posted by aether View Post
    Fair enough, political correctness has gone a bit too far after all you shouldn't technically say baa baa black sheep any more it has to be politically correct baa baa rainbow sheep
    Yeah, oversensitivity is the consequence of politcal correctness. When I say political correctness, I'm specifically talking about interest groups undermining freedom of speech/expression, by going through things like employers to punish unwanted speech since they can't go through the government. When people fear for their jobs and there is no fine boundary over what is appropriate, they'll just be overly defensive and secretive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wio View Post
    Yeah, oversensitivity is the consequence of politcal correctness. When I say political correctness, I'm specifically talking about interest groups undermining freedom of speech/expression, by going through things like employers to punish unwanted speech since they can't go through the government. When people fear for their jobs and there is no fine boundary over what is appropriate, they'll just be overly defensive and secretive.
    Yeah sometimes people just have to mellow out a bit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    Eh? Obama is a christian. But I guess some people think people named Hussein are automatically muslim.
    idd that he's a christian but there seem to be conspiracy theories about it, then again internet will be internet
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    Default Re: So the people of Egypt have just overthrown their president.

    Quote Originally Posted by darksky967 View Post
    idd that he's a christian but there seem to be conspiracy theories about it, then again internet will be internet
    The internet is like one huge campfire in the woods with mad conspiracy theorists with tinfoil hats gathered around the fire making things up thinking that they're true when in actual fact there is no logical reason for it to be true in the first place

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    Default Re: So the people of Egypt have just overthrown their president.

    If anything, Obama is secretly an atheist that pretends to be Christian. The people who claim that Obama is secretly a Muslim simply don't like him and want to liken him to some sort of jihad terrorist. It's a very easy smear to execute, because Obama went around dick-riding Islam in middle eastern countries, while being completely neutral, if not negative, towards Christianity in America.

    The most Christian thing Obama has done on record is stand in front of a Christmas tree.

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    Default Re: So the people of Egypt have just overthrown their president.

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    : the permanent Preservation of the State of Israel. Israel must be protected at all Costs.
    Huh. Interesting collection of stuff in your sig. Are you a Christian Zionist?

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    Good on them for not becoming Iran 2.0.
    Morsi was more Iran 2.0, with the military stepping in we might be fortunate enough to get a Turkey 2.0 situation. Although in recent times Turkey isn't looking so good.

    As for Isreal? I don't think this will really change things. They're still doing all they can to antagonize the neighbors, which isn't really a sustainable foreign policy. Unless they significantly change, I don't see the state lasting another century.
    They don't have to antagonize their neighbors to be hated. They're on Islamic holy land.

    Even if they could stabilize the situation with their neighbors, peace isn't an option for them either unless they can peaceably get the Muslims that are Israeli citizens to either move out or stop having huge families. As it is, it's only a matter of time before they're outvoted. I guess they could in theory vote to no longer be a democracy before the demographics shift to much, but I doubt that would stay peaceful long.

    Nasty situation all around really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunnyside View Post
    Even if they could stabilize the situation with their neighbors, peace isn't an option for them either unless they can peaceably get the Muslims that are Israeli citizens to either move out or stop having huge families. As it is, it's only a matter of time before they're outvoted. I guess they could in theory vote to no longer be a democracy before the demographics shift to much, but I doubt that would stay peaceful long.

    Nasty situation all around really.
    The whole world needs to change their foreign policies to be honest

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    Default Re: So the people of Egypt have just overthrown their president.

    Christian Zionist? My Religion says Zion is in Independence, Jackson County, Missouri.


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