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    Default Re: What is the likelyhood of another terror attack in the near future?

    Quote Originally Posted by DeathBlade/13.666 View Post
    Unless you have proof that every teacher
    It doesn't have to be every teacher. Young people will go through multiple teachers and multiple schools. It's no secret that the teaching community is going to be more welcoming of Democrat teachers and less so of Republican ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wio View Post
    It doesn't have to be every teacher. Young people will go through multiple teachers and multiple schools. It's no secret that the teaching community is going to be more welcoming of Democrat teachers and less so of Republican ones.
    So then what you're saying is purely anecdotal and circumstantial.
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    Default Re: What is the likelyhood of another terror attack in the near future?

    And it also depends on the politics of the region.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeathBlade/13.666 View Post
    So then what you're saying is purely anecdotal and circumstantial.
    I didn't give any anecdotes, though I could if you want me to do so.

    Circumstantial doesn't really make sense in this context, because we're not talking about an incident.

    Quote Originally Posted by z3y2x1 View Post
    And it also depends on the politics of the region.
    There are lots of different factors. For primary education there just isn't enough room in the curriculum for propaganda, while in University is going to classes dedicated to it. Urban areas are more likely to have stronger unions than rural areas. However even in more conservative regions, you're not going to have Republican donating unions. So it's varying degrees of bias, but mainly in one direction.
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    Default Re: What is the likelyhood of another terror attack in the near future?

    This thread... holy ****.. This is why I hate political arguments and Politics in general, Let's all be friends

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wio View Post
    I didn't give any anecdotes, though I could if you want me to do so.

    Circumstantial doesn't really make sense in this context, because we're not talking about an incident.
    Ok then, so I used the wrong words here. Either way, you can't properly support your claim of generalizing teacher, unions, and democrats all supporting each other and thus creating a general bias with youngsters in politics in every school in the nation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeathBlade/13.666 View Post
    Ok then, so I used the wrong words here. Either way, you can't properly support your claim of generalizing teacher, unions, and democrats all supporting each other and thus creating a general bias with youngsters in politics in every school in the nation.
    I'm not unable to support my claim. I'm not very concerned about finding empirical evidence for things that are obvious to me, nor am I very motivated to spend hours digging up studies and statistics that you'll probably ignore or dismiss for a trivial reason anyway.

    But even keeping things on a theoretical level, you haven't really pointed out any single part of my claim which is not logically sound. Instead you're just saying that I'm not proving it property and insisting that my claim has to be universally true when it is admittedly a generalization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wio View Post
    I'm not unable to support my claim. I'm not very concerned about finding empirical evidence for things that are obvious to me, nor am I very motivated to spend hours digging up studies and statistics that you'll probably ignore or dismiss for a trivial reason anyway.

    But even keeping things on a theoretical level, you haven't really pointed out any single part of my claim which is not logically sound. Instead you're just saying that I'm not proving it property and insisting that my claim has to be universally true when it is admittedly a generalization.
    Ok then, So you want me to show you a plethora of students that are still republicans and many die-hard republicans at that even though they have had a number of teachers with varying political ideologies. Come to Prattville, Alabama then; I'll show you the high school, and you can see and question the students and staff yourself. The reason I know your generalization is false is because of my heavily Republican state, where the normal current political views are practically everything RainyDayMan just stated earlier in this thread. Now I can only cover the ideology portion of your claims. I don't have the ability to examine the spending and donations of the teacher's unions/associations in my state, nor can I infer to whether the donations are going to Democrats, Republicans, or any political group, party, or issue. But I can definitely tell you that being a Democrat in Alabama is a pain in the rear, especially when Obama was elected and re-elected. Thus I can theorize myself that if they have given any donations to any political groups/parties, it's must likely the Republican Party seeming that in the last election Democrats barely won anything in the state, and as far as political campaigning went there was very little democrats I could even vote for on the ballot. (I believe it was about a 1 Democrat - 3 Republican average statewide. Thus my Democrat only ballot had very little to choose from as opposed to the Republican only ballot) If fact the only Democratic ads I recall seeing was one for Bob Vance and one for Lucy Baxley, whereas the Republicans had ads everywhere. I'd even go so far to submit to you that in other "Red" or "Republican" states, especially in the Southeast, things aren't too far different from what you'd find here.
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    Default Re: What is the likelyhood of another terror attack in the near future?

    Quote Originally Posted by DeathBlade/13.666 View Post
    Oh? What about the words of Jefferson himself from his memoirs? http://www.confederatepastpresent.or...ion-and-fusion Has for Lincoln, first you have to understand that issue of Slavery was a big political issue at the time. With that being said, he stated wouldn't opposed the Corwin Amendment should it be ratified, because the subject goes beyond what the then-current Constitution covered. Here's his inaugral address that explains that. http://www.bartleby.com/124/pres31.html Now if he hated blacks as you stated, then why on earth would he bother setting forth on the 13th amendment? After all, he only did the Emancipation Proclamation to get back at the South, and free their slaves. Where's your proof that Lincoln was racist, btw?

    EITHER way, This topic's about terrorist attacks and we're getting off-topic. So Let's continue our discussion elsewhere.
    Where's his Proof that Jefferson Davis was racist? You seem intent on going off only on me for some Reason. I am sick of arguing with his Butt. You handle it.

    And I never called Lincoln a Racist not in Sarcasm. I only said he was a vicious white Supremacist. Just read "Lincoln Reconsidered", "The Real Lincoln", or "America's Caesar" and see what Lincoln himself said about Blacks.

    I do not believe that Lincoln was a Racist because Racism is not a nineteenth-century social Norm. Racism of today was not what it was in a past Millenium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeathBlade/13.666 View Post
    Ok then, So you want me to show you a plethora of students that are still republicans and many die-hard republicans at that even though they have had a number of teachers with varying political ideologies. Come to Prattville, Alabama then; I'll show you the high school, and you can see and question the students and staff yourself. The reason I know your generalization is false is because of my heavily Republican state, where the normal current political views are practically everything RainyDayMan just stated earlier in this thread. Now I can only cover the ideology portion of your claims. I don't have the ability to examine the spending and donations of the teacher's unions/associations in my state, nor can I infer to whether the donations are going to Democrats, Republicans, or any political group, party, or issue. But I can definitely tell you that being a Democrat in Alabama is a pain in the rear, especially when Obama was elected and re-elected. Thus I can theorize myself that if they have given any donations to any political groups/parties, it's must likely the Republican Party seeming that in the last election Democrats barely won anything in the state, and as far as political campaigning went there was very little democrats I could even vote for on the ballot. (I believe it was about a 1 Democrat - 3 Republican average statewide. Thus my Democrat only ballot had very little to choose from as opposed to the Republican only ballot) If fact the only Democratic ads I recall seeing was one for Bob Vance and one for Lucy Baxley, whereas the Republicans had ads everywhere. I'd even go so far to submit to you that in other "Red" or "Republican" states, especially in the Southeast, things aren't too far different from what you'd find here.
    I'm not going to disagree with you that there are red states exist, that Republican students exist, or that a young people aren't capable of thinking for themselves. I acknowledge that some schools are going to be a lot less liberal than others. I didn't phrase things right if that is what you took from my original claim.

    The claim I was getting at originally is that young people are going more likely to be Democrats rather than Republican, and this is largely due to educational institutions being more left leaning. There are various reasons why the educational system is left leaning besides "Democrats are always right" and "the truth has a liberal bias". Such reasons would be things like teachers unions and the fact that public schools are funded by the government, and democrats are always advocating for more educational funding.

    Interestingly enough, red states like Alabama don't create unions which donate to Republicans, instead they simply have much lower unionization rates in general. The teachers are more likely to be a Republican than they would in a state like California. Even so, the Republican ideology in red states is perpetuated by the parents and the churches, but not so much through the schools.

    Democrats take pride in the fact that there is a correlation between education (i.e. being in an educational institution) and being progressive. There is also a well known correlation between income and begin conservative. When you are younger, you're highly likely to be in an educational institution and have a low income, where as the older you get the less likely you'll be in an educational institution and the more likely you have a good salary.
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    `fear causes suffering. it also makes us more aware and observant but dulls our ability to make sound judgments. we are quick to judge. is war stupid? did war bring a world economy? ya in a bloody kinda way it did. war makes us a race weak and hollow and no better than the terrorists that get off on conrtoling a entire mass of people who belive they have to lock there doors all the time to be safe. its insanity and sadly enough it works. people live in fear


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wio View Post
    Anyone in a school that receives government funding (i.e. just about all schools) is going to have teachers who are part of a teachers union that makes donations the democratic party with union dues. Young people are more exposed to pro-democrat/anti-republican opinions for obvious reasons. Obama is a democrat.
    Yeah, I am mostly a republican.. though I like Obama.


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    Yeah, I am mostly a republican.. though I like Obama.
    It's not hard when most of what he's actually done is expound upon what his predecessors have done, even though his speeches are more liberal then his actions. Personally, I'm waiting until 2016 when I can truly say I called his presidency right and he's done absolutely nothing to change the way things are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeathBlade/13.666 View Post
    Ok then, So you want me to show you a plethora of students that are still republicans and many die-hard republicans at that even though they have had a number of teachers with varying political ideologies. Come to Prattville, Alabama then; I'll show you the high school, and you can see and question the students and staff yourself. The reason I know your generalization is false is because of my heavily Republican state, where the normal current political views are practically everything RainyDayMan just stated earlier in this thread. Now I can only cover the ideology portion of your claims. I don't have the ability to examine the spending and donations of the teacher's unions/associations in my state, nor can I infer to whether the donations are going to Democrats, Republicans, or any political group, party, or issue. But I can definitely tell you that being a Democrat in Alabama is a pain in the rear, especially when Obama was elected and re-elected. Thus I can theorize myself that if they have given any donations to any political groups/parties, it's must likely the Republican Party seeming that in the last election Democrats barely won anything in the state, and as far as political campaigning went there was very little democrats I could even vote for on the ballot. (I believe it was about a 1 Democrat - 3 Republican average statewide. Thus my Democrat only ballot had very little to choose from as opposed to the Republican only ballot) If fact the only Democratic ads I recall seeing was one for Bob Vance and one for Lucy Baxley, whereas the Republicans had ads everywhere. I'd even go so far to submit to you that in other "Red" or "Republican" states, especially in the Southeast, things aren't too far different from what you'd find here.
    Alabama and South Carolina are very similar in those Regards. I remember going to Prattville High School.


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