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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaitou+ View Post
    Can you please stop damage controlling please?

    TBH, I'm not a Sony Fanboy, I'm Sony Biased....if Sony was pulling this I would be so upset. When PS4 was rumored that it was gonna use DRM, I would complain about it, I wouldn't shrug it off.

    It's fine that you like it, like I said but that fact that some people are upset about this....lmao
    I'm damage controlling? Do you really expect me to be more annoyed over something the system gives you? The HD TV IMO is a way bigger hassle since not everyone buying will own one. I've complained enough about the kinect BS on 360achs, what would flooding AF also benefit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaitou+ View Post
    Can you please stop damage controlling please?

    TBH, I'm not a Sony Fanboy, I'm Sony Biased....if Sony was pulling this I would be so upset. When PS4 was rumored that it was gonna use DRM, I would complain about it, I wouldn't shrug it off.

    It's fine that you like it, like I said but that fact that some people are upset about people saying Sony > MS....lmao

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    I have to disagree about "it's all about the games".

    It's about the practices that the company does with the console too. Console are important or you're saying the games play themselves?

    WiiU is decent because it keeps it simple (with the WiiU, you only put the game in and that's it), like it's been with gaming for the past years it's only downside it's the game which it will be fixed later this year.

    Nintendo made bad mistakes, but they aren't money hungry like MS.

    Either way, can't wait for the Nintendo Direct tomorrow.
    To me, it is. I know they dont play themselves, but so long as they play, what the hell do I care? Its not like these companies are killing little children. Maybe Im more forgiving because I know Bill Gates likes to dump money into charity? Iunno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ωmega View Post
    Its normal for some people to get upset, like Im actually really annoyed neither is backwards compatible [though its impossible for the PS4 since the PS3 had donkey-backwards coding] but to someone like me [who again is all up Nintendos grill] I could care less about the console itself and really only look at the games that make me go "oooooo...ok, I'll deal with whatever crap you throw at me so long as I can play these~"

    Oh, and I have to admit, this made me laugh:
    PS4 will have Gaikai, which I think they hinted you could stream older games.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaitou+ View Post
    PS4 will have Gaikai, which I think they hinted you could stream older games.
    From what I was told you had to buy them. PS1 games were .99 cents, PS2 were $10, and PS3 were half price [so about $30]

    Which is fine, I guess, but for that Id hook up my old system. With the Wii/Wii U I dont mind, because most of the games I buy on WiiWare are $3 and for systems I dont have anymore. I miss my NES....but I digress

    I just want to be able to put the game in the new system and maybe have it up the graphics a little. If the PS4 lets you stream old games for free then thats a horse of a different color.

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    The only complaints I have seen for playstation so for is about games. There are quite a few good games, just alot of them are cross platform. But, is that really a problem? There are also some great PS3 only game that are comming out too. Xbox also has a nice selection of games coming out for it, alot Xbox only.
    I personally think X1 will be hit hard with sales this year. Yes, it's about the games. But they did so wrong with the console. If you can work around the stuff people are complaining about, then it will probably be fine for you. But I doubt I will be online 24/7, let alone on my console everyday. I'm a fan of Playstation anyway, so that's the console I will be picking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ωmega View Post
    To me, it is. I know they dont play themselves, but so long as they play, what the hell do I care? Its not like these companies are killing little children. Maybe Im more forgiving because I know Bill Gates likes to dump money into charity? Iunno.
    In general, you're the person that doesn't really care if something it's a hassle. (An idea I got from you from other stuff topics too) In this example, playing the game, sharing and other stuff.

    But you acknowledge that it's BS at least, but you just don't care. So that's fine since it's your preference/choice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anime Forum View Post
    I'm damage controlling? Do you really expect me to be more annoyed over something the system gives you? The HD TV IMO is a way bigger hassle since not everyone buying will own one. I've complained enough about the kinect BS on 360achs, what would flooding AF also benefit?
    Because you're making it as you're defending the system. You don't have to flood it but shrug it off also gives the opposite impression.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaitou+ View Post
    In general, you're the person that doesn't really care if something it's a hassle. (An idea I got from you from other stuff topics too) In this example, playing the game, sharing and other stuff.

    But you acknowledge that it's BS at least, but you just don't care. So that's fine since it's your opinion.



    Because you're making it as you're defending the system. You don't have to flood it but shrug it off also gives the opposite impression.
    I've complained enough. Lol. I agree it is bad, but not as bad as the HD TV BS. That goes for both systems, not just one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaitou+ View Post
    In general, you're the person that doesn't really care if something it's a hassle. (An idea I got from you from other stuff topics too) In this example, playing the game, sharing and other stuff.

    But you acknowledge that it's BS at least, but you just don't care. So that's fine since it's your preference/choice.
    .
    Exactly~


    Can I just say that after watching the new SP:SOT trailer that I am soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo excited for this game to come out??? I wanted it before, but now I feel like Im dying to get it

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=ZE7Hj2bg948

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ωmega View Post
    Exactly~


    Can I just say that after watching the new SP:SOT trailer that I am soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo excited for this game to come out??? I wanted it before, but now I feel like Im dying to get it

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=ZE7Hj2bg948
    Kinda pissed about the whole THQ thing, because of it, the game got pushed to December instead of June.

    At least we're getting it though. xD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anime Forum View Post
    I've complained enough. Lol. I agree it is bad, but not as bad as the HD TV BS. That goes for both systems, not just one.
    Complaning Enough =/= Shrug it off but whatever.

    DRM is a bigger problem imo. At least when PSN was down I was able to play my games. I don't need to internet to play my games. And HDTVs doesn't go on and off (not my case but a general case).

    Imagine if Xbox Live is under maintenance = you can't connect. Sure, it's only a few hours not a big deal, but it's still an inconvenience. Same can be said when the cable/internet company does a maintenance check...not a big deal, but it's still an inconvenience.

    Requiring HDTVS is a problem though but not as big as DRM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaitou+ View Post
    Kinda pissed about the whole THQ thing, because of it, the game got pushed to December instead of June.

    At least we're getting it though. xD[COLOR="Silver"]
    My bf had stock in them too.....he wasnt too happy to hear about their bankruptcy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ωmega View Post
    My bf had stock in them too.....he wasnt too happy to hear about their bankruptcy.
    Why would he put stock on them though?

    THQ hasn't been doing too well for a while.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaitou+ View Post
    Kinda pissed about the whole THQ thing, because of it, the game got pushed to December instead of June.

    At least we're getting it though. xD

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    Complaning Enough =/= Shrug it off but whatever.

    DRM is a bigger problem imo. At least when PSN was down I was able to play my games. I don't need to internet to play my games. And HDTVs doesn't go on and off (not my case but a general case).

    Imagine if Xbox Live is under maintenance = you can't connect. Sure, it's only a few hours not a big deal, but it's still an inconvenience. Same can be said when the cable/internet company does a maintenance check...not a big deal, but it's still an inconvenience.

    Requiring HDTVS is a problem though but not as big as DRM.
    Lol. You'd understand if you were on 360achs, but dropping that topic.. I agree. The DRM BS is really annoying xD. Lol, actually really bad. I just think the HD TV issue is worse because you can't even attempt to use the system. Plus, did PS4 ever outright deny the DRM BS? Didn't they just say that you won't need to be always online? What if they pull the 24 hour BS as well?

    Either way, I agree its MAJOR BS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaitou+ View Post
    Why would he put stock on them though?

    THQ hasn't been doing too well for a while.
    Because they boasted about how they were going to come out with several new titles that would boost sales, SP:SOT being one of them. They also boasted about coming up with new innovations for that draw pad things, given they got a new CEO at the time [which he saw- new CEO means new revamp, new revamp means new interest, new interest means new investors]

    Instead, the company crashed about a month later

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anime Forum View Post
    Lol. You'd understand if you were on 360achs, but dropping that topic.. I agree. The DRM BS is really annoying xD. Lol, actually really bad. I just think the HD TV issue is worse because you can't even attempt to use the system. Plus, did PS4 ever outright deny the DRM BS? Didn't they just say that you won't need to be always online? What if they pull the 24 hour BS as well?

    Either way, I agree its MAJOR BS.
    Next time just don't shrug it off. You don't need to spam it. Lmao

    Yes they did...


    Sony is not stupid. Do you think that they will do something that a lot of people is hating MS on? Unlike MS, Sony actually reads forums and tweets and they could have easily read this thread or read this post later on. They are not gonna do it. Not to mention with Sony, YOU DONT NEED TO INSTALL THE GAMES.

    Besides, they confirmed it in the video above. =\ Did you watched the Sony conference?



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    Because they boasted about how they were going to come out with several new titles that would boost sales, SP:SOT being one of them. They also boasted about coming up with new innovations for that draw pad things, given they got a new CEO at the time [which he saw- new CEO means new revamp, new revamp means new interest, new interest means new investors]

    Instead, the company crashed about a month later
    No offense and not to come out as an smart aleck.

    But it's his fault for falling for that. =\
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaitou+ View Post
    Next time just don't shrug it off. You don't need to spam it. Lmao

    Yes they did...


    Sony is not stupid. Do you think that they will do something that a lot of people is hating MS on? Unlike MS, Sony actually reads forums and tweets and they could have easily read this thread or read this post later on. They are not gonna do it. Not to mention with Sony, YOU DONT NEED TO INSTALL THE GAMES.

    Besides, they confirmed it in the video above. =\ Did you watched the Sony conference?



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    No offense and not to come out as an smart aleck.

    But it's his fault for falling for that. =\
    I'm not shrugging it off.. =l .. I've complained. I saw some of the conference and reading updates still. I'm trying to go back and forth lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anime Forum View Post
    I'm not shrugging it off.. =l .. I've complained. I saw some of the conference and reading updates still. I'm trying to go back and forth lol.
    I mean on this forum, but whatever. xD

    But yeah, Sony won on that part. It's giving the consumers more freedom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaitou+ View Post
    I mean on this forum, but whatever. xD

    But yeah, Sony won on that part. It's giving the consumers more freedom.
    Yeah. It seems Sony won that portion. I agree xD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anime Forum View Post
    Yeah. It seems Sony won that portion. I agree xD.
    I mean, being able to just let your friends borrow games and bringing a game over a friend's house...Those were the good times, lol.

    I guess if I get an Xbox One, I'll just put it in my car every time I go out/


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    You have to pay a subscription to play online now with the PS4. That definitely sucks!

    http://au.gamespot.com/e3/ps-plus-re...09709?skipmc=1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zainox View Post
    You have to pay a subscription to play online now with the PS4. That definitely sucks!

    http://au.gamespot.com/e3/ps-plus-re...09709?skipmc=1
    Not really. It's been that way with Microsoft for ever and I've never really had a problem with that. You bear in mind that Sony will be able to use that subscription money the same way Microsoft does; maintaining their game and Gaikai servers, keeping everything up-to-date. It'll also deter piracy, since people won't want to have to pay for a new account subscription if they get their first one banned due to being reported for modding/cheating.


    Also don't read the comments on that link, they disgust me. I mean I'm currently primarily a 360 user, and that would make me a 360 'fanboy?' I dunno, I only like the controllers. But the hate between the two console camps is unwarranted. If there's me who assumed the new xbox would be godly and the PS4 would suck, and all of a sudden I believe it's the other way around and that I'm going to be getting a PS4, then we all know that Microsoft hasn't just dropped the ball, but dropped the soap.




    Also, can somebody please post a list of confirmed titles for either console? I would like to compare what I'd be missing if I do ultimately choose to buy a PS4, since I have absolutely no clue about the XBO-exclusive titles. Games coming out on both systems could probably be grouped separately as 'cross-platform', I guess.


    edit

    Also, people are apparently saying that Microsoft's last E3 demonstration was 'pretty good'. So, since I so totally missed it, can someone fill me in on what exactly they showed? I do genuinely want to keep as non-biased an opinion between the two consoles at the moment as is possible.
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    @Ranshiin

    Games in BOLD are cross platform.
    Xbox One

    Assasian's Creed 4
    Battlefield 4
    Below
    Call of Duty: Ghosts
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    Fantasia: Music Evolved
    FIFA Soccer 14
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    Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain

    Minecraft
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    Need For Speed Rivals

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    Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare
    Project Spark
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    Star Wars Battlefront

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    Trials Fusion
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    Watch Dogs
    The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
    Wolfenstein: The New Order

    Zoo Tycoon
    Zumba Fitness World Party

    Xbox Games Link - http://au.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/List_of_Xbox_One_Games



    PS4


    Abe's Oddysee
    Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag
    Battlefield 4
    Blacklight: Retribution
    Call of Duty: Ghosts
    The Crew
    The Dark Sorceror
    Daylight
    DC Universe Online
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    Don't Starve
    Dragon Age Inquisition
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    Dying Light
    EA Sports UFC
    Elder Scrolls Online
    FIFA Soccer 14
    Final Fantasy (PS4)
    Final Fantasy XIV
    Final Fantasy XV
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    Infamous: Second Son
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    Madden 25
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    Need for Speed Rivals

    Octodad: Deadliest Catch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranshiin View Post
    Not really. It's been that way with Microsoft for ever and I've never really had a problem with that. You bear in mind that Sony will be able to use that subscription money the same way Microsoft does; maintaining their game and Gaikai servers, keeping everything up-to-date. It'll also deter piracy, since people won't want to have to pay for a new account subscription if they get their first one banned due to being reported for modding/cheating.
    This is very true and is a valid point, and to be honest. $50 a year isn't that much to be paying just for online access. Plus the bonuses you get make it worth it.
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    So, going from that list, the majority of the racing games are cross-platform. The Crew is a PS4 exclusive? well, damn.

    The only two xbox-exclusive titles I'd be remotely interested in are Minecraft and Trials Fusion ... but I play Minecraft more on PC anyway, and Trials will certainly get booted up on Steam at some point.

    NFS: Rivals is cross-platform, and will be a purchase. (I'm assuming a 360 version will be in the works)
    The Division is cross-platform, and my friends have expressed huge interest in that.
    Destiny is also cross-platform.
    DriveClub is a PS4 exclusive, and my friends have been talking non-stop about that.
    The Crew is also a PS4 exclusive, and I'm genuinely interested in that one.

    A few other games, such as Mad Max, look promising.

    GTA5 was mentioned to be coming to next-gen, but I know for a fact it's coming out on current-gen tech too since I have it pre-ordered for 360. Will probably be the last Xbox game I purchase.

    So, as far as this looks, for me PS4 would be the way to go. Nothing on XBO stands out to me, and of course their whole farce with what their 'media center' will do isn't helping. Of course, there's still six-ish months to go before this stuff gets launched (well, probably more like four/five), and a lot of other games could pop-up as being in-development or planned ... and honestly, if a Blur 2 is mentioned as being in-dev for XBO, that will be the ONLY reason I buy one. Much how had SSX been a PS3 exclusive, that would have been the only reason I buy a PS3 (eventually bought one for Motorstorm though).

    The prices of both consoles are pretty steep, but knowing what's in them and that my current computer is on-par with the console tech and I paid $2,000 for this thing, then $400 isn't a complaint.

    Well, thanks for the info. Let's see how this pans out, but it seems fairly straightforwards to me right now as to what I'm leaning towards. There goes my 39,000 gamerscore. lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zainox View Post
    You have to pay a subscription to play online now with the PS4. That definitely sucks!

    http://au.gamespot.com/e3/ps-plus-re...09709?skipmc=1
    PSN+ >>>> Xbox Live.

    Sony doesn't suck your money of your pocket.

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    It was obvious but if the Wiiu was region free, it would've been better. Nintendo needs to take their head our of their butt. And realize people will stop hacking their Wii if they make it region free.

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    http://e3.nintendo.com/

    Time for Nintendo to take 1st or 2nd place, because obviously Xbox is dead last.

    I feel Nintendo has a chance to win if they play their cards right.

    Actually, if Nintendo shows a really good Smash Bros, trailer Nintendo wins E3 for me.

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    Yes mario kart so far so good

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    Nintendo for second place.

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    If this is a practice they will do for 50% of their games. Xbox One lost.

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    Lol Xbox One is the new Dreamcast but worse.


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